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Thoughts on the Offense

ewueagle2010

Active member
Much has been said about the D, and I think we all agree it needs to improve in order to make a run at a National Title. But, I was curious as to some of your thoughts on the Offense after the return of VA from injury this season.

It seems the Offense never returned to form after VA came back from injury. Granted, 2 of those 4 games were against Montana who can bring pressure in the back field, but I almost wonder if VA was still a bit dinged up, along with Quincy Forte. The offense didn't play with the same swagger that they had pre VA injury. Coop missed some catches, VA missed throws and didn't look nearly as mobile, and Quincy had moments where he looked slower and unable to make cuts. At times, it almost looked as though we should have just huddled because the pace was that slow.

I don't mean to seem down on the offense or any of our guys. After all, we still scored 36, 37, 46 and 56 in those four games, but it just seemed like the O was out of sync down the stretch.
 
ewueagle2010 said:
Much has been said about the D, and I think we all agree it needs to improve in order to make a run at a National Title. But, I was curious as to some of your thoughts on the Offense after the return of VA from injury this season.

It seems the Offense never returned to form after VA came back from injury. Granted, 2 of those 4 games were against Montana who can bring pressure in the back field, but I almost wonder if VA was still a bit dinged up, along with Quincy Forte. The offense didn't play with the same swagger that they had pre VA injury. Coop missed some catches, VA missed throws and didn't look nearly as mobile, and Quincy had moments where he looked slower and unable to make cuts. At times, it almost looked as though we should have just huddled because the pace was that slow.

I don't mean to seem down on the offense or any of our guys. After all, we still scored 36, 37, 46 and 56 in those four games, but it just seemed like the O was out of sync down the stretch.

No question. I'm guessing it takes more than a month to get back to 100%.
 
ewueagle2010 said:
Much has been said about the D, and I think we all agree it needs to improve in order to make a run at a National Title. But, I was curious as to some of your thoughts on the Offense after the return of VA from injury this season.

It seems the Offense never returned to form after VA came back from injury. Granted, 2 of those 4 games were against Montana who can bring pressure in the back field, but I almost wonder if VA was still a bit dinged up, along with Quincy Forte. The offense didn't play with the same swagger that they had pre VA injury. Coop missed some catches, VA missed throws and didn't look nearly as mobile, and Quincy had moments where he looked slower and unable to make cuts. At times, it almost looked as though we should have just huddled because the pace was that slow.

I don't mean to seem down on the offense or any of our guys. After all, we still scored 36, 37, 46 and 56 in those four games, but it just seemed like the O was out of sync down the stretch.

I noticed some of the same things, but I think it's probably a combination of a lot of factors. I don't know if VA was truly 100% after he came back from that injury, but the offense just didn't seem to be in "playoff form" like it did at the beginning of the year. Kupp doesn't drop a lot of balls, but there was a stretch during the ISUr game where he dropped 2 or 3 in a row. Overall, they didn't seem to play with the same swagger as they did prior to the VA injury. Granted, UM and ISUr have good defenses so that could have something to do with it.

All that said, the O will be just fine next year. We're absolutely loaded at receiver and the O-Line should be good. Biggest question for me is at RB, where we lose three Seniors to graduation. Not sure there's a clear #1 between Jabari Wilson and Jalen Moore, but those are the only 2 scholarship running backs I see on the roster outside of this year's Seniors. I wonder if we'll pursue a transfer RB.
 
Agreed, VA didn't seem to make the same plays with his feet post injury.

Having said that when you make it to the quarterfinals or better three years in a row and the season is a disappointment you have a pretty good thing going. Only EWU and NDSU has made it to the quarters or better 2012-2014. Not bad company especially considering the budget discrepancy that EWU has vs programs like Montana, NDSU as well as others.

All the more reason fans and alumni need to step up donations so Roos Field becomes more desirable for people in Spokane with no affiliation to attend games in Cheney. Big believer if EWU is able to upgrade their facilities they'll attract more fans especially with WSU struggling.

I live in Seattle and everyone here knows about EWU especially after the two close calls vs UW. Didn't get those comments after the 2010 season. Keep the momentum.

Merry Christmas
GO EAGS
 
From University of Washington all time stats list for opponents visiting Husky Stadium

Passing Yards

Name No. Opponent
1.Willie Tuitama 510 Arizona, 2007
2.Kevin Feterik 500 BYU, 1999
3.Vernon Adams 475 Eastern Washington, 2014
4.Bo Levi Mitchell 473 Eastern Washington, 2011

Major Applewhite 473 Texas, 2001 Holiday Bowl
6.Jonathan Smith 469 Oregon State, 1998
7.Jason Johnson 443 Arizona, 2002
8.Colt Brennan 442 Hawai'i, 2007
Akili Smith 442 Oregon, 1998
10.Kellen Clemens 425 Oregon, 2005

Passing Touchdowns

Name No. Opponent
1.Vernon Adams 7 Eastern Washington, 2014
2.Sam Bradford 5 Oklahoma, 2008
Kyle Boller 5 California, 2002
Jack Thompson 5 Washington State, 1976
Tom O’Connell 5 Illinois, 1952
6.Sean Canfield 4 Oregon State, 2009
Kellen Clemens 4 Oregon, 2005
Joe Ayoob 4 Cal, 2005
Brady Quinn 4 Notre Dame, 2004
Matt Leinart 4 USC, 2003
Carson Palmer 4 USC, 2002
Major Applewhite 4 Texas, 2001 Holiday Bowl
Kyle Boller 4 California, 2001
Wayne Cook 4 UCLA, 1993
Jim Plunkett 4 Stanford, 1970

Receptions

Name No. Opponent
1.Marquise Walker 15 Michigan, 2001
2.Jason Rivers 14 Hawai'i, 2007
3.Nelson Spruce 13 Colorado, 2014
Iheanyi Uwaezuoke 13 California, 1994
5.Cody Hoffman 12 BYU, 2013
Nicholas Edwards 12 EWU, 2011
David Roberts 12 Arizona, 2009
Patrick Turner 12 USC, 2006
Michael Smith 12 Kansas State, 1991
James Lofton 12 Stanford, 1977
Billy Anders 12 Ohio State, 1966
 
EWURanger said:
ewueagle2010 said:
Much has been said about the D, and I think we all agree it needs to improve in order to make a run at a National Title. But, I was curious as to some of your thoughts on the Offense after the return of VA from injury this season.

It seems the Offense never returned to form after VA came back from injury. Granted, 2 of those 4 games were against Montana who can bring pressure in the back field, but I almost wonder if VA was still a bit dinged up, along with Quincy Forte. The offense didn't play with the same swagger that they had pre VA injury. Coop missed some catches, VA missed throws and didn't look nearly as mobile, and Quincy had moments where he looked slower and unable to make cuts. At times, it almost looked as though we should have just huddled because the pace was that slow.

I don't mean to seem down on the offense or any of our guys. After all, we still scored 36, 37, 46 and 56 in those four games, but it just seemed like the O was out of sync down the stretch.

I noticed some of the same things, but I think it's probably a combination of a lot of factors. I don't know if VA was truly 100% after he came back from that injury, but the offense just didn't seem to be in "playoff form" like it did at the beginning of the year. Kupp doesn't drop a lot of balls, but there was a stretch during the ISUr game where he dropped 2 or 3 in a row. Overall, they didn't seem to play with the same swagger as they did prior to the VA injury. Granted, UM and ISUr have good defenses so that could have something to do with it.

All that said, the O will be just fine next year. We're absolutely loaded at receiver and the O-Line should be good. Biggest question for me is at RB, where we lose three Seniors to graduation. Not sure there's a clear #1 between Jabari Wilson and Jalen Moore, but those are the only 2 scholarship running backs I see on the roster outside of this year's Seniors. I wonder if we'll pursue a transfer RB.

The word is that we will sign as many as three RB's this year, but for sure two. One has already been mentioned in the recruiting thread. The other name I have heard and will keep to myself for now. But if it pans out, I think everyone will be very pleased.
 
Eaglefanatical said:
EWURanger said:
ewueagle2010 said:
Much has been said about the D, and I think we all agree it needs to improve in order to make a run at a National Title. But, I was curious as to some of your thoughts on the Offense after the return of VA from injury this season.

It seems the Offense never returned to form after VA came back from injury. Granted, 2 of those 4 games were against Montana who can bring pressure in the back field, but I almost wonder if VA was still a bit dinged up, along with Quincy Forte. The offense didn't play with the same swagger that they had pre VA injury. Coop missed some catches, VA missed throws and didn't look nearly as mobile, and Quincy had moments where he looked slower and unable to make cuts. At times, it almost looked as though we should have just huddled because the pace was that slow.

I don't mean to seem down on the offense or any of our guys. After all, we still scored 36, 37, 46 and 56 in those four games, but it just seemed like the O was out of sync down the stretch.

I noticed some of the same things, but I think it's probably a combination of a lot of factors. I don't know if VA was truly 100% after he came back from that injury, but the offense just didn't seem to be in "playoff form" like it did at the beginning of the year. Kupp doesn't drop a lot of balls, but there was a stretch during the ISUr game where he dropped 2 or 3 in a row. Overall, they didn't seem to play with the same swagger as they did prior to the VA injury. Granted, UM and ISUr have good defenses so that could have something to do with it.

All that said, the O will be just fine next year. We're absolutely loaded at receiver and the O-Line should be good. Biggest question for me is at RB, where we lose three Seniors to graduation. Not sure there's a clear #1 between Jabari Wilson and Jalen Moore, but those are the only 2 scholarship running backs I see on the roster outside of this year's Seniors. I wonder if we'll pursue a transfer RB.

The word is that we will sign as many as three RB's this year, but for sure two. One has already been mentioned in the recruiting thread. The other name I have heard and will keep to myself for now. But if it pans out, I think everyone will be very pleased.

any hints?
 
JoinTheEAF said:
From University of Washington all time stats list for opponents visiting Husky Stadium

Passing Yards

Name No. Opponent
1.Willie Tuitama 510 Arizona, 2007
2.Kevin Feterik 500 BYU, 1999
3.Vernon Adams 475 Eastern Washington, 2014
4.Bo Levi Mitchell 473 Eastern Washington, 2011

Major Applewhite 473 Texas, 2001 Holiday Bowl
6.Jonathan Smith 469 Oregon State, 1998
7.Jason Johnson 443 Arizona, 2002
8.Colt Brennan 442 Hawai'i, 2007
Akili Smith 442 Oregon, 1998
10.Kellen Clemens 425 Oregon, 2005

Passing Touchdowns

Name No. Opponent
1.Vernon Adams 7 Eastern Washington, 2014
2.Sam Bradford 5 Oklahoma, 2008
Kyle Boller 5 California, 2002
Jack Thompson 5 Washington State, 1976
Tom O’Connell 5 Illinois, 1952
6.Sean Canfield 4 Oregon State, 2009
Kellen Clemens 4 Oregon, 2005
Joe Ayoob 4 Cal, 2005
Brady Quinn 4 Notre Dame, 2004
Matt Leinart 4 USC, 2003
Carson Palmer 4 USC, 2002
Major Applewhite 4 Texas, 2001 Holiday Bowl
Kyle Boller 4 California, 2001
Wayne Cook 4 UCLA, 1993
Jim Plunkett 4 Stanford, 1970

Receptions

Name No. Opponent
1.Marquise Walker 15 Michigan, 2001
2.Jason Rivers 14 Hawai'i, 2007
3.Nelson Spruce 13 Colorado, 2014
Iheanyi Uwaezuoke 13 California, 1994
5.Cody Hoffman 12 BYU, 2013
Nicholas Edwards 12 EWU, 2011
David Roberts 12 Arizona, 2009
Patrick Turner 12 USC, 2006
Michael Smith 12 Kansas State, 1991
James Lofton 12 Stanford, 1977
Billy Anders 12 Ohio State, 1966

That's some pretty good company on that list.
 
RB depth is probably somewhat of a concern for next season, but the biggest unknown to me is Center. IIRC, our backup RT was also the backup at center behind Butorac.
 
:tothehand:
ewueagle2010 said:
Much has been said about the D, and I think we all agree it needs to improve in order to make a run at a National Title. But, I was curious as to some of your thoughts on the Offense after the return of VA from injury this season.

It seems the Offense never returned to form after VA came back from injury. Granted, 2 of those 4 games were against Montana who can bring pressure in the back field, but I almost wonder if VA was still a bit dinged up, along with Quincy Forte. The offense didn't play with the same swagger that they had pre VA injury. Coop missed some catches, VA missed throws and didn't look nearly as mobile, and Quincy had moments where he looked slower and unable to make cuts. At times, it almost looked as though we should have just huddled because the pace was that slow.

I don't mean to seem down on the offense or any of our guys. After all, we still scored 36, 37, 46 and 56 in those four games, but it just seemed like the O was out of sync down the stretch.
I agree ewueag, the O just did not have the explosiveness during VA's hiatus and from the Montana game on. Partly due to the Griz having as good a defense as we had seen this season and he was just not the "old Vernon".
In our championship year you could see improvement each week but when VA was hurt we plateaued for those games he was out. In the last game it didn't look like he was planting his back foot thus the high throws.
After watching the next round of playoff games, I think we made it about as far as this team could take us. Thanks to all of the Seniors, it has been a pleasure watching you these last 4-5 years.
Good Luck in whatever future endeavors you choose to pursue.
 
Eaglefanatical said:
EWURanger said:
ewueagle2010 said:
Much has been said about the D, and I think we all agree it needs to improve in order to make a run at a National Title. But, I was curious as to some of your thoughts on the Offense after the return of VA from injury this season.

It seems the Offense never returned to form after VA came back from injury. Granted, 2 of those 4 games were against Montana who can bring pressure in the back field, but I almost wonder if VA was still a bit dinged up, along with Quincy Forte. The offense didn't play with the same swagger that they had pre VA injury. Coop missed some catches, VA missed throws and didn't look nearly as mobile, and Quincy had moments where he looked slower and unable to make cuts. At times, it almost looked as though we should have just huddled because the pace was that slow.

I don't mean to seem down on the offense or any of our guys. After all, we still scored 36, 37, 46 and 56 in those four games, but it just seemed like the O was out of sync down the stretch.

I noticed some of the same things, but I think it's probably a combination of a lot of factors. I don't know if VA was truly 100% after he came back from that injury, but the offense just didn't seem to be in "playoff form" like it did at the beginning of the year. Kupp doesn't drop a lot of balls, but there was a stretch during the ISUr game where he dropped 2 or 3 in a row. Overall, they didn't seem to play with the same swagger as they did prior to the VA injury. Granted, UM and ISUr have good defenses so that could have something to do with it.

All that said, the O will be just fine next year. We're absolutely loaded at receiver and the O-Line should be good. Biggest question for me is at RB, where we lose three Seniors to graduation. Not sure there's a clear #1 between Jabari Wilson and Jalen Moore, but those are the only 2 scholarship running backs I see on the roster outside of this year's Seniors. I wonder if we'll pursue a transfer RB.

The word is that we will sign as many as three RB's this year, but for sure two. One has already been mentioned in the recruiting thread. The other name I have heard and will keep to myself for now. But if it pans out, I think everyone will be very pleased.

I'm aware of Malcolm Williams...not sure if Billy Greer will play RB, may not have the speed to play RB in our offense at 220 lbs. Just a guess.

The other RB I know of that's being recruited is Khai Williams out of Fresno. Is there someone else that you're tracking?
 
Seattle Eagle said:
RB depth is probably somewhat of a concern for next season, but the biggest unknown to me is Center. IIRC, our backup RT was also the backup at center behind Butorac.

I think Boatright is projected to center for 2015. He played center a bit this last season and seems like he's filled in just about everywhere on the line at one point or another. He's got both size and experience. I'm not too worried about him coming in and making an impact.
 
EWURanger said:
And I believe Boatright was originally recruited as a TE, but is athletic enought to play both C and OT.

He blew up on a weight training program upon arrival and was immediately sent to the trenches. I wouldn't worry about his ability to step in next year... He'll do we'll.
 
LDopaPDX said:
EWURanger said:
And I believe Boatright was originally recruited as a TE, but is athletic enought to play both C and OT.

He blew up on a weight training program upon arrival and was immediately sent to the trenches. I wouldn't worry about his ability to step in next year... He'll do we'll.

That's really exciting to hear about returning OL. The versatility of Neary is also a huge plus for our OL since he could play anywhere on the OL. The 2015 on OL is also very strong. I think at least two, maybe 3 make the active roster and a few may get on the field. We have a pretty solid group on OL in 2015.
 
eaglesfootball said:
Eaglefanatical said:
EWURanger said:
ewueagle2010 said:
Much has been said about the D, and I think we all agree it needs to improve in order to make a run at a National Title. But, I was curious as to some of your thoughts on the Offense after the return of VA from injury this season.

It seems the Offense never returned to form after VA came back from injury. Granted, 2 of those 4 games were against Montana who can bring pressure in the back field, but I almost wonder if VA was still a bit dinged up, along with Quincy Forte. The offense didn't play with the same swagger that they had pre VA injury. Coop missed some catches, VA missed throws and didn't look nearly as mobile, and Quincy had moments where he looked slower and unable to make cuts. At times, it almost looked as though we should have just huddled because the pace was that slow.

I don't mean to seem down on the offense or any of our guys. After all, we still scored 36, 37, 46 and 56 in those four games, but it just seemed like the O was out of sync down the stretch.

I noticed some of the same things, but I think it's probably a combination of a lot of factors. I don't know if VA was truly 100% after he came back from that injury, but the offense just didn't seem to be in "playoff form" like it did at the beginning of the year. Kupp doesn't drop a lot of balls, but there was a stretch during the ISUr game where he dropped 2 or 3 in a row. Overall, they didn't seem to play with the same swagger as they did prior to the VA injury. Granted, UM and ISUr have good defenses so that could have something to do with it.

All that said, the O will be just fine next year. We're absolutely loaded at receiver and the O-Line should be good. Biggest question for me is at RB, where we lose three Seniors to graduation. Not sure there's a clear #1 between Jabari Wilson and Jalen Moore, but those are the only 2 scholarship running backs I see on the roster outside of this year's Seniors. I wonder if we'll pursue a transfer RB.

The word is that we will sign as many as three RB's this year, but for sure two. One has already been mentioned in the recruiting thread. The other name I have heard and will keep to myself for now. But if it pans out, I think everyone will be very pleased.

any hints?

We offered OL Codi McGuire and RB Anthony Mariscal (Both California) in June of their Junior years. The offers were the only offers we made early out of state that I know of for sure. Mariscal ended up deciding on University of Arizona. Both players had Pac offers, McGuire chose to join the Eags family. Mariscal's decision wasn't a simple one. He was very close to joining EWU. I'm not sure if he was being offered RB or DB, but he was offered by Nevada, Arizona, and EWU early. Both considered EWU as a top notch opportunity.
 
GROUND&POUND,
Would have been great to get both Players. Our problems is not having enough Scholarships for our recruits. Our Recruits have to take partial, or something is offered. I complement our Coaches for the job they does with such little Scholarships. Here is hoping our returning Players all come back. #58, David Delgado, #60 Jarrod Jones, #61Jay Deines, #66 Thomas Gomez, # 72 Aaron Neary, # 73 T.J. Bostright, # 78 Clay DeBorg, # 79 Cassidy Curtis, are the returning OL. Watch these New Players. ##63 Jack Hunter 275 lbs, G-Prep, #70 Matt Meyer 285 lbs, Lynden, #74 Nick Ellison 245 lbs, #75 Spencer Blackburn 260 lbs., Bellingham. They will fit in very well, of course this is depending on their returning. Vic Wallace
 
Vic we get as many scholarships as every other fully funded FCS school and that number is 63 which can be given as either full schollies or divided into partials. but yes i agree we are at a disadvantage when compared to the fbs schools.
 
eaglesfootball said:
Vic we get as many scholarships as every other fully funded FCS school and that number is 63 which can be given as either full schollies or divided into partials. but yes i agree we are at a disadvantage when compared to the fbs schools.
Granted every team at the FCS level get the same number of scholarships but the funding will vary by school. Does the budget allow full funding of all of those scholarships? Are we at a disadvantage to other FCS schools? other Big Sky schools?
 

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