Time to beat ybu in Provo..

[WILDCAT]

good point, sir. ill take a provo loss as long as they are still playing in ogden unlike utah.

If BYU goes to the Big 12, they will cease to come back to the Dee.

true, or if we ever win in provo. i dont think we have to worry about byu leaving their mid-major status. it will be interesting to see both us and byu in the mid-major top 25 that will be out within a week or so.

Yeah, from what I've been reading BYU is in discussions with the Big XII, but nothing is anywhere close to being finalized. Honestly, it would be a good move for the couggies.

If BYU doesnt get an invite, and they stay in the WCC/Indy, they will have no excuse for not continuing the home and home series with us and Utah State like Spewtah has

 

[weberwildcat]

The NCAA could end the purchasing of 20 win seasons by the the, so called, power confrences. Two things would end it and level the playing field.

1) The NCAA takes over all scheduling of officials.

2) The NCAA requires all contracts between member institutions, in the same division, to be home and home, 50/50. No money games between teams in the same division.

Because it would level the playing field is exactly why the NCAA will not do it. :twocents:

Big money teams own the NCAA. The NCAA is their BIOCHE :yikes:

In July, when Commissioner Fullerton visited Weber State he touched on both of those points during his presentation. I will try to go back and see what he said, but I believe he said that the NCAA is doing more to make the refs more accountable to the NCAA and not to particular conferences, programs, or coaches. Also, the NCAA is trying to get the bigger conference teams to actually leave their home courts during the preseason. Most of those teams sit at home for 12 out of 14 OCC games. It isn't fair. :wtf:

:rofl:

barney fife aka the ncaa is gonna make duke play on the road? :lol:

is it fair we have won 40% of all men's basketball titles? is it fair sac plays in a church gym?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!! Yeah, I don't see the big boys leaving their gyms.

We've won 40% of Big Sky titles because we've had better coaches, support, and players. Sac could play in a better gym, but their administration won't make the changes necessary. Humbolt State has far nicer facilities. That should be absolutely embarrassing to SAC.

these are the same reasons duke or ohio state don't need to play road ooc games. same reason the yankees keep winning.

sac's administration has nothing to do with a new facility that can't be built on tax dollars per california law per sac buzz the last 5 yrs lol

 

[n.ogdencat]

The NCAA could end the purchasing of 20 win seasons by the the, so called, power confrences. Two things would end it and level the playing field.

1) The NCAA takes over all scheduling of officials.

2) The NCAA requires all contracts between member institutions, in the same division, to be home and home, 50/50. No money games between teams in the same division.

Because it would level the playing field is exactly why the NCAA will not do it. :twocents:

Big money teams own the NCAA. The NCAA is their BIOCHE :yikes:

In July, when Commissioner Fullerton visited Weber State he touched on both of those points during his presentation. I will try to go back and see what he said, but I believe he said that the NCAA is doing more to make the refs more accountable to the NCAA and not to particular conferences, programs, or coaches. Also, the NCAA is trying to get the bigger conference teams to actually leave their home courts during the preseason. Most of those teams sit at home for 12 out of 14 OCC games. It isn't fair. :wtf:

:rofl:

barney fife aka the ncaa is gonna make duke play on the road? :lol:

is it fair we have won 40% of all men's basketball titles? is it fair sac plays in a church gym?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!! Yeah, I don't see the big boys leaving their gyms.

We've won 40% of Big Sky titles because we've had better coaches, support, and players. Sac could play in a better gym, but their administration won't make the changes necessary. Humbolt State has far nicer facilities. That should be absolutely embarrassing to SAC.

these are the same reasons duke or ohio state don't need to play road ooc games. same reason the yankees keep winning.

sac's administration has nothing to do with a new facility that can't be built on tax dollars per california law per sac buzz the last 5 yrs lol

Big different between Weber's winning of titles and Duke...We have to play road games. Yankees, have a schedule set by MLB , so they prove their worth each year, by winning on the road and at home. I have more respect for a team that can earn a 20 win season by winning on the road and at home. A balanced OOC of 7 road and 7 home games is a great indication of how good a team will end up being.

As for Sac...yeah, I know that Cali has nothing to contribute to their schools. Some D-bag in San Jose still registers his POS in Utah, thus taking monies away from Cali that could be used at SAC!! :rofl: :rofl: But do you think the Dee was built by tax payer dollars? NO...how about the football press box and suits? Or track locker rooms?

 

[weberwildcat]

The NCAA could end the purchasing of 20 win seasons by the the, so called, power confrences. Two things would end it and level the playing field.

1) The NCAA takes over all scheduling of officials.

2) The NCAA requires all contracts between member institutions, in the same division, to be home and home, 50/50. No money games between teams in the same division.

Because it would level the playing field is exactly why the NCAA will not do it. :twocents:

Big money teams own the NCAA. The NCAA is their BIOCHE :yikes:

In July, when Commissioner Fullerton visited Weber State he touched on both of those points during his presentation. I will try to go back and see what he said, but I believe he said that the NCAA is doing more to make the refs more accountable to the NCAA and not to particular conferences, programs, or coaches. Also, the NCAA is trying to get the bigger conference teams to actually leave their home courts during the preseason. Most of those teams sit at home for 12 out of 14 OCC games. It isn't fair. :wtf:

:rofl:

barney fife aka the ncaa is gonna make duke play on the road? :lol:

is it fair we have won 40% of all men's basketball titles? is it fair sac plays in a church gym?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!! Yeah, I don't see the big boys leaving their gyms.

We've won 40% of Big Sky titles because we've had better coaches, support, and players. Sac could play in a better gym, but their administration won't make the changes necessary. Humbolt State has far nicer facilities. That should be absolutely embarrassing to SAC.

these are the same reasons duke or ohio state don't need to play road ooc games. same reason the yankees keep winning.

sac's administration has nothing to do with a new facility that can't be built on tax dollars per california law per sac buzz the last 5 yrs lol

Big different between Weber's winning of titles and Duke...We have to play road games. Yankees, have a schedule set by MLB , so they prove their worth each year, by winning on the road and at home. I have more respect for a team that can earn a 20 win season by winning on the road and at home. A balanced OOC of 7 road and 7 home games is a great indication of how good a team will end up being.

As for Sac...yeah, I know that Cali has nothing to contribute to their schools. Some D-bag in San Jose still registers his POS in Utah, thus taking monies away from Cali that could be used at SAC!! :rofl: :rofl: But do you think the Dee was built by tax payer dollars? NO...how about the football press box and suits? Or track locker rooms?

well sir your first argument was about fairness. also i wasnt makinng a direct comparison to duke and weber. just sac competing with weber and weber to duke more or less good sir.

 

[n.ogdencat]

The NCAA could end the purchasing of 20 win seasons by the the, so called, power confrences. Two things would end it and level the playing field.

1) The NCAA takes over all scheduling of officials.

2) The NCAA requires all contracts between member institutions, in the same division, to be home and home, 50/50. No money games between teams in the same division.

Because it would level the playing field is exactly why the NCAA will not do it. :twocents:

Big money teams own the NCAA. The NCAA is their BIOCHE :yikes:

In July, when Commissioner Fullerton visited Weber State he touched on both of those points during his presentation. I will try to go back and see what he said, but I believe he said that the NCAA is doing more to make the refs more accountable to the NCAA and not to particular conferences, programs, or coaches. Also, the NCAA is trying to get the bigger conference teams to actually leave their home courts during the preseason. Most of those teams sit at home for 12 out of 14 OCC games. It isn't fair. :wtf:

:rofl:

barney fife aka the ncaa is gonna make duke play on the road? :lol:

is it fair we have won 40% of all men's basketball titles? is it fair sac plays in a church gym?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!! Yeah, I don't see the big boys leaving their gyms.

We've won 40% of Big Sky titles because we've had better coaches, support, and players. Sac could play in a better gym, but their administration won't make the changes necessary. Humbolt State has far nicer facilities. That should be absolutely embarrassing to SAC.

these are the same reasons duke or ohio state don't need to play road ooc games. same reason the yankees keep winning.

sac's administration has nothing to do with a new facility that can't be built on tax dollars per california law per sac buzz the last 5 yrs lol

Big different between Weber's winning of titles and Duke...We have to play road games. Yankees, have a schedule set by MLB , so they prove their worth each year, by winning on the road and at home. I have more respect for a team that can earn a 20 win season by winning on the road and at home. A balanced OOC of 7 road and 7 home games is a great indication of how good a team will end up being.

As for Sac...yeah, I know that Cali has nothing to contribute to their schools. Some D-bag in San Jose still registers his POS in Utah, thus taking monies away from Cali that could be used at SAC!! :rofl: :rofl: But do you think the Dee was built by tax payer dollars? NO...how about the football press box and suits? Or track locker rooms?

well sir your first argument was about fairness. also i wasnt makinng a direct comparison to duke and weber. just sac competing with weber and weber to duke more or less good sir.

I can agree with you on that one.

 

[oldrunner]

A home and home rule wouldn't eliminate the gamesmanship all together, but it would change things quite a bit. Utah still wouldn't want to play Weber, because it would be an automatic loss when they play at our place. However, higher level teams might like their chances in the Dee. It would also make it a lot easier to schedule teams on our same level. A team like St Marys would be a lot more willing to listen. Really, the NCAA just needs to grow a pair, stop pandering to the rich/powerful, and take charge of their own institutions and system. There is a reason why there are so many upsets in the early rounds of the NCAA tourney. These pampered teams, with 25+ wins, aren't as good as everyone thinks. They are just buying 20 win seasons, taking 5th or 6th in their conf., and getting an invite to the dance anyway. :thumbdown:

 

[n.ogdencat]

A home and home rule wouldn't eliminate the gamesmanship all together, but it would change things quite a bit. Utah still wouldn't want to play Weber, because it would be an automatic loss when they play at our place. However, higher level teams might like their chances in the Dee. It would also make it a lot easier to schedule teams on our same level. A team like St Marys would be a lot more willing to listen. Really, the NCAA just needs to grow a pair, stop pandering to the rich/powerful, and take charge of their own institutions and system. There is a reason why there are so many upsets in the early rounds of the NCAA tourney. These pampered teams, with 25+ wins, aren't as good as everyone thinks. They are just buying 20 win seasons, taking 5th or 6th in their conf., and getting an invite to the dance anyway. :thumbdown:

I'm glad that you brought up St. Mary's...I know this thread is focusing on YBU, but since Weber is playing at SMC for the second year in a row, is there a chance that the Gaels will be visiting the Dee next year? To me, the WCC isn't a stronger conference, I don't care that YBU is a part of it or not. The cougs don't make a conference a major conference; especially since the cougs are coming from the Mt. West. SMC should visit the Dee next year. After looking at their schedule all I could do is laugh. What a joke. They can't complain if they don't make the NCAA as an at large with that OOC.

As for the cougs...I have a good feeling that they will be coming to the Dee every other year for the forseeable future. From what I know, which isn't much, but more than Catcat, is that Rahe and Rose have a good relationship and that they really like playing each other. Boylen was a twit and he really didn't get along with Rahe. What makes the Utah situation even worse is their AD Dr. JACK ASS Chris Hill. This guy is a total freak. Pathetic is the best word to describe him. I just hope Bovee is getting a lot of $$$ from the Pukes for playing them at their place. I wonder if a 2 for 1 or even a 3 for 1 is being worked on?

 

[UtahPirate]

Boylen was a twit and he really didn't get along with Rahe. What makes the Utah situation even worse is their AD Dr. JACK ASS Chris Hill. This guy is a total freak. Pathetic is the best word to describe him. I just hope Bovee is getting a lot of $$$ from the Pukes for playing them at their place. I wonder if a 2 for 1 or even a 3 for 1 is being worked on?

I know this is an anti-BYU thread, but thank you for pointing out the arrogance of the U and its source -- Chris Ego Hill. I loooooved hating Boylen and pulled against him being fired because it was so fun to watch his meltdowns -- seriously, the guy brought new meaning to being 'emotionally unstable' and was willing to put it on display for all to see. It will be hard to pull against Coach Kristo. But while we can speculate about finally winning in Provo, honestly, I'm more excited about thrashing the U and that one team from Logan (I've seen bad reffing in Provo, but seriously it doesn't even compare to home-cooking Aggie style).

 

[WeberSki]

Ybu looking pretty good. Totally dominated Oregon. Their bigs Davies, Hartsock, & Austin will be tough to defend. Winder seems to have filled their point problem.

Only losses are in Logan, & #7 Wisconsin.

 

[bigskychamps07]

Ybu looking pretty good. Totally dominated Oregon. Their bigs Davies, Hartsock, & Austin will be tough to defend. Winder seems to have filled their point problem.

Only losses are in Logan, & #7 Wisconsin.

Yeah and the Aggies are struggling without Jardine, injuries have really taken away a good win from us but have given BYU a bad loss.

 

[CatBasketballFan]

I agree, BYU has improved a great deal. As much as I dislike them, you have to admit that Rose is a good coach and very good at figuring out how to get the most out of his personnel. That aside, if we play good defense, play good team ball and don't get shafted too badly by the refs we can beat them. However, if we start as flat as we did against San Jose State, we could be buried early! :wall:

 

[WeberSki]

It's time damnit .. ..

 

[wsucatfan]

Just win Weber, break the curse.

 

[WILDCAT]

GO WILDCATS