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Twilight of the Beau Baldwin era

FormerEag

Active member
While watching the game this weekend, I became acutely aware that we are likely nearing the end of the road with Coach Baldwin at the helm of EWU football. After the WSU win, Brock Huard commented on twitter and (emphatically) on air that it is a shame that Coach B isn't at an FBS or even P5 school, even pointing to a conversation he had with brass at Oregon State where they admitted that they whiffed on him. He has had too long a proven record in recruiting and developing talent and executing great seasons to be passed on much longer.

This morning I saw this article on Vice Sports listing him as a replacement for embattled Helfrich down at the evil empire (https://sports.vice.com/en_us/highl...would-be-fascinating/?utm_source=vicesportsfb

It should be interesting to see how this plays out with an impending loss to the Huskies. It very well could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Seems like he would be a perfect fit there, which personally would be a disappointment- Oregon and Montana are probably the only two schools I can't root for.
 
FormerEag said:
While watching the game this weekend, I became acutely aware that we are likely nearing the end of the road with Coach Baldwin at the helm of EWU football. After the WSU win, Brock Huard commented on twitter and (emphatically) on air that it is a shame that Coach B isn't at an FBS or even P5 school, even pointing to a conversation he had with brass at Oregon State where they admitted that they whiffed on him. He has had too long a proven record in recruiting and developing talent and executing great seasons to be passed on much longer.

This morning I saw this article on Vice Sports listing him as a replacement for embattled Helfrich down at the evil empire (https://sports.vice.com/en_us/highl...would-be-fascinating/?utm_source=vicesportsfb

It should be interesting to see how this plays out with an impending loss to the Huskies. It very well could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Seems like he would be a perfect fit there, which personally would be a disappointment- Oregon and Montana are probably the only two schools I can't root for.

Its just a matter of time before Baldwin fines the right fit, hes too good of a coach. I think we'd be lucky to have him another 1-2 years after this year. He will be a really good coach at the next level when he decides to go that route...
 
Was hinting at this sort of thing on the UW squashes Stanford thread about Taylor, but Coach B has too be in the barrel for a few mid-tier FBS programs. Path to go right to a P5 is a far lower percentage, but he knows the NW, beat WSU and recruits Cali well, so Oregon is more a possibility like you suggested.

Let's dream big while he is at Eastern and look for a rematch in Frisco with NDSU for the Natty!
 
***long sigh***

No. No. And no.

Beau Baldwin is a proven winner, an excellent recruiter, fantastic coach, and great person. He's 100% deserving of a FBS job. However, it's not nearly as close as you all think. Rather than rehash what I said in another thread a couple weeks ago...i'll put it here.

With all due respect...to who? Baldwin has shown he understands the big picture. He's not looking to jump at any ol FBS job for the sake of some more money. He's a west coast guy and has a family to consider, so what schools on the west coast that are worth leaving for and will be open and looking at Beau? He's not going to Washington State (if it opens), UW, and Oregon State wont be open, Oregon might be, but I don't think Baldwin wants that job anyway... Stanford or Cal, no. USC, hell no. UCLA....doubtful they'd "stoop to the FCS level" for a head coach. Utah isn't looking for a new coach and Arizona likely won't be either with Rich Rod. The only two schools that MIGHT be looking are Arizona State and Colorado. I have zero knowledge what so ever about anything to do with anyone's coaching approach for the next season, so this is all speculation, but I just don't see the opportunity right now. IMO, the only non power 5 job worth leaving for on the west coast is probably Boise State, and they're not looking for a coach either. If anything, I think Beau would leave for an OC job at a power 5 program and in all honesty, I think deep down he'd rather stay at Eastern.
 
ewueagle2010 said:
***long sigh***

No. No. And no.

Beau Baldwin is a proven winner, an excellent recruiter, fantastic coach, and great person. He's 100% deserving of a FBS job. However, it's not nearly as close as you all think. Rather than rehash what I said in another thread a couple weeks ago...i'll put it here.

With all due respect...to who? Baldwin has shown he understands the big picture. He's not looking to jump at any ol FBS job for the sake of some more money. He's a west coast guy and has a family to consider, so what schools on the west coast that are worth leaving for and will be open and looking at Beau? He's not going to Washington State (if it opens), UW, and Oregon State wont be open, Oregon might be, but I don't think Baldwin wants that job anyway... Stanford or Cal, no. USC, hell no. UCLA....doubtful they'd "stoop to the FCS level" for a head coach. Utah isn't looking for a new coach and Arizona likely won't be either with Rich Rod. The only two schools that MIGHT be looking are Arizona State and Colorado. I have zero knowledge what so ever about anything to do with anyone's coaching approach for the next season, so this is all speculation, but I just don't see the opportunity right now. IMO, the only non power 5 job worth leaving for on the west coast is probably Boise State, and they're not looking for a coach either. If anything, I think Beau would leave for an OC job at a power 5 program and in all honesty, I think deep down he'd rather stay at Eastern.

Agreed, If/when he leaves, it will be the best situation for him. I seriously doubt Oregon would hire him as a HC. They're too big of a program to stoop to FCS (not too big to pillage QBs though). They'll want a big name coach.
Remember, Chris Petersen had a long run at BSU before he bolted. I'm sure he could have left to other jobs but he waited for the right job. I see Beau doing the same thing.
 
I agree with the comments about him not taking a job at an FBS mid-major. There's a lot of risk in that move, especially if it's a program that's doing a rebuild or doesn't have a lot of historical success. Look at Wulff or some of the other guys that have rolled the dice. In order to take that kind of risk it would have to be a program that's a really good fit somewhere on the west coast.

I think he's comfortable where he is, but I also think he'd take advantage of the right opportunity if it presented itself. You never know, Oregon could take a chance on him and who's to say that he wouldn't at least apply for the job if Helfrich were fired.
 
Atomic Eagle said:
I agree with the comments about him not taking a job at an FBS mid-major. There's a lot of risk in that move, especially if it's a program that's doing a rebuild or doesn't have a lot of historical success. Look at Wulff or some of the other guys that have rolled the dice. In order to take that kind of risk it would have to be a program that's a really good fit somewhere on the west coast.

I think he's comfortable where he is, but I also think he'd take advantage of the right opportunity if it presented itself. You never know, Oregon could take a chance on him and who's to say that he wouldn't at least apply for the job if Helfrich were fired.

Not to be combative, but Coach Baldwin and Wulff are two COMPLETELY different calibers of coaches, trust me. Plus, Coach B has proven that he can hang with and beat the big boys. Wulff never did. I doubt he'll end up at Oregon, but my point was his days in Cheney are numbered and probably not more than 2-3 years.
 
FormerEag said:
Atomic Eagle said:
I agree with the comments about him not taking a job at an FBS mid-major. There's a lot of risk in that move, especially if it's a program that's doing a rebuild or doesn't have a lot of historical success. Look at Wulff or some of the other guys that have rolled the dice. In order to take that kind of risk it would have to be a program that's a really good fit somewhere on the west coast.

I think he's comfortable where he is, but I also think he'd take advantage of the right opportunity if it presented itself. You never know, Oregon could take a chance on him and who's to say that he wouldn't at least apply for the job if Helfrich were fired.

Not to be combative, but Coach Baldwin and Wulff are two COMPLETELY different calibers of coaches, trust me. Plus, Coach B has proven that he can hang with and beat the big boys. Wulff never did. I doubt he'll end up at Oregon, but my point was his days in Cheney are numbered and probably not more than 2-3 years.

I definitely agree with this. But I think we are all in agreement that when it happens it will be at a time and place of his choosing and not some bottom feeder FBS program. Not that you were implying that.
 
Seattle Eagle said:
I definitely agree with this. But I think we are all in agreement that when it happens it will be at a time and place of his choosing and not some bottom feeder FBS program. Not that you were implying that.

Yeah. I still don't understand Bohl to Wyoming. Seems like a lateral move at best to me.
 
FormerEag said:
Seattle Eagle said:
I definitely agree with this. But I think we are all in agreement that when it happens it will be at a time and place of his choosing and not some bottom feeder FBS program. Not that you were implying that.

Yeah. I still don't understand Bohl to Wyoming. Seems like a lateral move at best to me.

Salary went from ~$200 to ~$600 as I recall. Worth while to me ;)
 
Atomic Eagle said:
I agree with the comments about him not taking a job at an FBS mid-major. There's a lot of risk in that move, especially if it's a program that's doing a rebuild or doesn't have a lot of historical success. Look at Wulff or some of the other guys that have rolled the dice. In order to take that kind of risk it would have to be a program that's a really good fit somewhere on the west coast.

I think he's comfortable where he is, but I also think he'd take advantage of the right opportunity if it presented itself. You never know, Oregon could take a chance on him and who's to say that he wouldn't at least apply for the job if Helfrich were fired.

He might make the jump to a mid major if said mid major was ready to make a commitment to excellence a la CSU and coach Mac. Not that those situations grow on trees.
 
Eags12 said:
Any thoughts on a potential HC if/when Baldwin leaves?

Nope, going to put my head in the sand on this topic for now and enjoy this great season that could be our best since 2010.
 
MLEagle said:
Eags12 said:
Any thoughts on a potential HC if/when Baldwin leaves?

Nope, going to put my head in the sand on this topic for now and enjoy this great season that could be our best since 2010.
Me too, most of the opinions are purely speculation from people who have no idea what they are talking about.
 
clawman said:
MLEagle said:
Eags12 said:
Any thoughts on a potential HC if/when Baldwin leaves?

Nope, going to put my head in the sand on this topic for now and enjoy this great season that could be our best since 2010.
Me too, most of the opinions are purely speculation from people who have no idea what they are talking about.

Isn't that the definition of a fan forum? Damn dude, just a conversation about a likely scenario. He's not going to coach forever...

Also, I spent 5 years in the locker room and 4 years under coach B, FYI.
 
clawman said:
MLEagle said:
Eags12 said:
Any thoughts on a potential HC if/when Baldwin leaves?

Nope, going to put my head in the sand on this topic for now and enjoy this great season that could be our best since 2010.
Me too, most of the opinions are purely speculation from people who have no idea what they are talking about.

It's only a matter of time before he leaves and their are some very well informed posters on this board, who have great insights. Remember, Baldwin put his name in for the Weber position four years ago, mainly for posturing but it happened...

Don't be shocked if he's gone in a year or two, he's highly regarded in the coaching world
 
FormerEag said:
clawman said:
MLEagle said:
Eags12 said:
Any thoughts on a potential HC if/when Baldwin leaves?

Nope, going to put my head in the sand on this topic for now and enjoy this great season that could be our best since 2010.
Me too, most of the opinions are purely speculation from people who have no idea what they are talking about.

Isn't that the definition of a fan forum? Damn dude, just a conversation about a likely scenario. He's not going to coach forever...

Also, I spent 5 years in the locker room and 4 years under coach B, FYI.
OK, that may have been a little extreme on my part. I just tire of the jaw flapping about this, the east side bleachers, and the schedule
 
I think that if Baldwin left, that Troy Taylor would look to take over. I know Aaron Best has been around forever and is an excellent O-line coach, but I don't know if he was ever a candidate in the eyes of the administration. I found it peculiar that Taylor, who is a highly regarded offensive mind with deep California recuuiting connections, was brought in so suddenly by Baldwin. It makes me think he's almost his hand-chosen replacement should he leave. That would also explain why Taylor left Cali in the first place, if he knew he would get a shot to replace Baldwin when the time came.
 

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