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UNC Bears to play in Boulder? Read and Discuss

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FasterThanYou

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Article in today's Boulder Daily Camera online:
http://www.buffzone.com/ci_18382418

CU football notes: UNC Bears want to play regional foes
By Joshua Lindenstein Camera Sports Writer
Posted: 06/29/2011 11:38:15 PM MDT

COLORADO SPRINGS -- If you're a small Division-I football program looking to raise your profile, the formula is clear and often emulated: Play the big boys on TV to gain exposure and score a much-needed payday for your athletic department.
The blueprint is one Northern Colorado has followed in recent years since the Bears' move up from Division II to the Football Championship Subdivision of Division I.

UNC has played at Football Bowl Subdivision schools Michigan State and Kansas in recent years and has in-state rival Colorado State on the docket this season.

First-year coach Earnest Collins Jr., said at Wednesday's Colorado Football Kickoff Luncheon that his squad has future dates with the likes of Utah and Wyoming scheduled, and that his team would be happy to land a game in Boulder against the Colorado Buffaloes if the opportunity arose.

So could the Bears be coming to Boulder any time soon?

Colorado has historically refrained from scheduling many opponents from Division I's lower tier, opting instead to go after home and home series with prominent foes. But the shift to the Pac-12 Conference this year -- and the move to a nine-game league schedule that comes with it -- could leave CU in a tricky spot.

Some years, the Buffs will have four conference home games and other years five. They also have a neutral-site game with CSU through 2019. To get to six true home games -- the school's usual goal -- in a 12-game season, there would be years where the Buffs need both of their remaining non-conference games to be at home. That means locking in some opponents for 2-for-1 series or landing home games against foes who don't require a return trip -- typically FCS schools.

"I really haven't worried about it really," first-year CU coach Jon Embree said of his preferences as it relates to scheduling, which is handled primarily by athletic director Mike Bohn. "All I've been thinking about is (season-opening foe) Hawaii."

"We did lose to Montana State a few years ago, right?" Embree added with regard to the prospect of facing UNC or another FCS foe. "So you've got to play every week no matter who they put out there."

Embree pointed to the rapid rise of schools like TCU and the years-in-advance nature of college football scheduling as reasoning for his rationale.

"To sit here and say six years from now I want to play School X, be careful what you wish for right?" Embree said. "I can't worry about who's on the schedule."
 
Would be nice but after they lost to the Bobcats and almost lost to EWU, I'm not sure they'll be scheduling any more Big Sky schools.
 
As far as CU, those types of games (Montana State, E. Washington) won't be happening anymore with the demise of Dan Hawkins. Embree will get things turned around over there......but on to this possibility: Its something that could happen, and could probably benefit both schools. CU has a number of non-conference vacancies (even with the loss of a game OOC in most years) on its schedule, as they had series with Washington, Oregon, Utah, and Arizona State set before the conference change. They will also be dealing with achieving the goal of playing six games at Folsom per year in the future, and playing UNC makes sense. It'd be a popular draw for UNC students and fans IMO, and there aren't the travel expenses involved with guarantee money games in Boulder that games such as Michigan State, Kansas, Purdue, and Hawaii have presented for both sides.

Just out of curiousity---What is the payday for the game at CSU?
 
Just out of curiousity---What is the payday for the game at CSU?

hoel4800
Big Bear


I don't know what the payday is for the CSU game but you can bet it probably won't be nearly as large as the payouts from the Big 10 and Big 12 were. But then, there's not much travel cost involved in going to Ft. Collins.
 
#1bearsfan said:
Just out of curiousity---What is the payday for the game at CSU?

hoel4800
Big Bear


I don't know what the payday is for the CSU game but you can bet it probably won't be nearly as large as the payouts from the Big 10 and Big 12 were. But then, there's not much travel cost involved in going to Ft. Collins.
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Right now, the contract is that CSU and Colorado play each other at Invesco for the next 7-8 years --- not at either home field.
I'm not sure either one benefits financially from the other, they just get ticket sales and tv revenue.

This is what wikipedia says about it:
Rocky Mountain Showdown

Eight times since 1998, Colorado State and in-state rival Colorado have faced one another in the annual football battle in Denver at Invesco Field at Mile High. The rivalry started in 1893 and was played annually until 1958. After being resurrected in 1984, the game moved to Denver in 1998. Since moving to Invesco Field at Mile High, the teams have consistently played before the largest crowds in state history to witness a college sporting event. On August 31, 2009, Colorado State and Colorado signed a 10-year contract extension of the Rocky Mountain Showdown which will bring the game back to Invesco Field at Mile High from 2010 to 2019. The game is scheduled to be played at Hughes Stadium in 2020.
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FasterThanYou said:
#1bearsfan said:
Just out of curiousity---What is the payday for the game at CSU?

hoel4800
Big Bear


I don't know what the payday is for the CSU game but you can bet it probably won't be nearly as large as the payouts from the Big 10 and Big 12 were. But then, there's not much travel cost involved in going to Ft. Collins.
Click to expand...

Right now, the contract is that CSU and Colorado play each other at Invesco for the next 7-8 years --- not at either home field.
I'm not sure either one benefits financially from the other, they just get ticket sales and tv revenue.

This is what wikipedia says about it:
Rocky Mountain Showdown

Eight times since 1998, Colorado State and in-state rival Colorado have faced one another in the annual football battle in Denver at Invesco Field at Mile High. The rivalry started in 1893 and was played annually until 1958. After being resurrected in 1984, the game moved to Denver in 1998. Since moving to Invesco Field at Mile High, the teams have consistently played before the largest crowds in state history to witness a college sporting event. On August 31, 2009, Colorado State and Colorado signed a 10-year contract extension of the Rocky Mountain Showdown which will bring the game back to Invesco Field at Mile High from 2010 to 2019. The game is scheduled to be played at Hughes Stadium in 2020.
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I believe what "hoel" was asking was about the payday for UNC for this year's game at CSU. Not, what CU will make by playing CSU.
 
hoel4800 said:
As far as CU, those types of games (Montana State, E. Washington) won't be happening anymore with the demise of Dan Hawkins. Embree will get things turned around over there......but on to this possibility: Its something that could happen, and could probably benefit both schools. CU has a number of non-conference vacancies (even with the loss of a game OOC in most years) on its schedule, as they had series with Washington, Oregon, Utah, and Arizona State set before the conference change. They will also be dealing with achieving the goal of playing six games at Folsom per year in the future, and playing UNC makes sense. It'd be a popular draw for UNC students and fans IMO, and there aren't the travel expenses involved with guarantee money games in Boulder that games such as Michigan State, Kansas, Purdue, and Hawaii have presented for both sides.

Just out of curiousity---What is the payday for the game at CSU?
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I believe we're getting $250,000 from CSU. Not a big pay day, but not travel costs.
 
That is also the week before CSU's Super Bowl too.....Great week to play them. CU may have an out in any contract because of their conference move (including the one with CSU).
 
Bears generally hold up well at Ft Collins, at least through half time. They will have a big manpower advantage, and if they can put together a few mistake free drives, they will prevail. Been there, done that.

Bears will need a little help from the Rams in the way of mistakes, or not being totally mentally ready to play their best with the CU distraction.
 
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