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Week 8 - #19 Sac State vs Northern Arizona

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Week 8 - #19 Sac State vs Northern Arizona

The 19th ranked Hornets (4-2, 3-0 BSC) host a feisty Northern Arizona (3-3, 2-1 BSC) Lumberjack team that is coming into this week on a hot streak. NAU got off to a rough start to the season, but got a week 3 FBS upset win over Arizona, 21-19. The Lumberjack lost their BSC opener at UNC in OT, 17-10, before winning handily in their next 2 games against ISU, 48-17, and SUU, 59-35. NAU is a few plays away from being undefeated in conference play.

Offensively, the Lumberjacks primarily run out of the pistol but also utilizes various single back looks. They do run some RPO but it has not been their primary look. This offense has been rolling the past few weeks and looks to be hitting on all cylinders coming into this game. NAU currently is the 6th best scoring offense in the BSC (26.8 ppg) and 2nd most productive (449.7 ypg). QB RJ Martinez (81/127, 1082 yds, 9 TD, 1 INT, 36 car, 194 yds, 3 TD) has been on fire the last couple of weeks. Martinez is small in stature but has a big arm that is accurate down the field and is a viable running threat to pick up chunk yardage off of the RPO or a scramble. His top targets at WR are Coleman Owen (25 rec, 434 yds, 4 TD) and Hendrix Johnson (18 rec, 363 yds, 4 TD) and both are down the field threats. The Jacks have a power running game in RB Kevin Daniels (88 car, 564 yds, 2 TD) who can move the pile when called upon.

Defensively NAU operates out of the 4-2-5 and they have had their struggles this season. The Lumberjack defense is 7th in the BSC in scoring (27.3 ppg) and 9th in yards allowed (409.5 ypg). S Morgan Vest (52 tkl, 2.5 TFL, 2 INT) leads the NAU defense in tackles and interceptions and DE Carson Taylor (23 tkl, 8 TFL, 5 sack) has generated the biggest disruption in opponents backfields.

NAU’s K Luis Aguilar (5/11 FG, 18/19 PAT) has struggled with his accuracy but has some range as he has made one from 41 yards out. NAU has had a FG blocked. NAU is 4th in the BSC in KR average with 25.9 ypr with Draycen Hall (31.0 ypr) leading the way.

This game could devolve into a shootout if the Hornet defense doesn’t come prepared. The Hornets could have some trouble with NAU’s power running game if they have to bring an extra guy into the box to slow it down, which would open things up for NAU’s explosive passing attack. On the other side of the ball, NAU will struggle to slow down the Hornet offense if the Hornet QBs continue to play at a high level. The Hornets will need to keep Carson Taylor in check as he has the tendency to disrupt plays in the backfield. The Hornets have the advantage in the place kicking game, but as always the coverage will continue to be a liability. NAU has struggled on the road this year, and I expect the Hornets to stay focused on the task at hand and take care of business. The Hornets should win this game if they can maintain their high level of play.

Stingers Up!
 
Trap game. Pure definition of the word.

It was great to get the W in Montucky, almost like the first playoff win excitement.
Gotta come to earth as NAU is dangerous, they have almost always played us tough and have a better winning percentage in Sac than at their home. Guess the altitude gives them an additional boost?

Homecoming should have a good crowd, if there isn't that is on Orr.
Plenty of open area's, outside, etc.
 
Green Cookie Monster said:
Homecoming should have a good crowd, if there isn't that is on Orr.
Plenty of open area's, outside, etc.

And judging from the “papers” thread — they’ve effed it up.

They won’t have a good crowd now. Or at least nowhere near what it could have been.

We can’t have nice things.

As for NAU, hopefully our boys don’t take them lightly and the coaching staff puts together a great game plan as they did against UM.
 
Depends on your definition of trap game. I view a trap game when you are looking ahead to a big game and shit the bed against a lesser opponent. There no big games on the schedule until Causeway which is 5 weeks out and NAU isn't that much of a lesser opponent. We'll lose if the Hornets have a sloppy game and the NAU offense stays hot.

Also a sizable storm is on the horizon. If it hits early during the Saturday night game, NAU will have the advantage given their ability to pound the rock with Daniels. Between the storm and the vax passport requirements, I'll be impressed if more than 10k do show up.
 
Well, the Hornets are getting the benefit of practicing in the elements this week while NAU practices in the Walkup Skydome and moistens their balls… lol
 
Popular opinion on this board appears that the Athletic Department should just call it a day. So I'm going to predict NAU 1 - SAC 0 as the final score of this one.
 
stingthemgood said:
Popular opinion on this board appears that the Athletic Department should just call it a day. So I'm going to predict NAU 1 - SAC 0 as the final score of this one.

I think we’re good for a safety, or at least a Sentkowski FG.

How bout 2-1 or 3-1 Hornets?

With an underwhelming amount of fans on hand to witness it in person……
 
BuckeyeHornetFan said:
stingthemgood said:
Popular opinion on this board appears that the Athletic Department should just call it a day. So I'm going to predict NAU 1 - SAC 0 as the final score of this one.

I think we’re good for a safety, or at least a Sentkowski FG.

How bout 2-1 or 3-1 Hornets?

With an underwhelming amount of fans on hand to witness it in person……

Hornets win 38-28. I’ll be there, just with the wife now.

I talked to Orr quite a bit at a previous game and he knows who I am - I’ll see if it’s the company line or any real info from him…
 
BuckeyeHornetFan said:
stingthemgood said:
Popular opinion on this board appears that the Athletic Department should just call it a day. So I'm going to predict NAU 1 - SAC 0 as the final score of this one.

I think we’re good for a safety, or at least a Sentkowski FG.

How bout 2-1 or 3-1 Hornets?

With an underwhelming amount of fans on hand to witness it in person……

1-0 is the score if a team forfeits.
 
stingthemgood said:
BuckeyeHornetFan said:
stingthemgood said:
Popular opinion on this board appears that the Athletic Department should just call it a day. So I'm going to predict NAU 1 - SAC 0 as the final score of this one.

I think we’re good for a safety, or at least a Sentkowski FG.

How bout 2-1 or 3-1 Hornets?

With an underwhelming amount of fans on hand to witness it in person……

1-0 is the score if a team forfeits.

2-0 if it’s an NFL game.
 
Sting is correct for NCAA. BHF is correct for NFL, though the rule book states that such points are NOT counted toward offensive production or for tie-breakers. The NFHS rule book is NOT available online in any form short of purchasing a print copy.

Oddly, I could find NO reference to a forfeit in the CFL rule book. They've had some recent rule changes to bring them into similarity with NFL rules, particularly considering the PAT scrimmage point. I'm NOT happy about that....
 
SDHornet said:
Depends on your definition of trap game. I view a trap game when you are looking ahead to a big game and isht the bed against a lesser opponent. There no big games on the schedule until Causeway which is 5 weeks out and NAU isn't that much of a lesser opponent. We'll lose if the Hornets have a sloppy game and the NAU offense stays hot.

Also a sizable storm is on the horizon. If it hits early during the Saturday night game, NAU will have the advantage given their ability to pound the rock with Daniels. Between the storm and the vax passport requirements, I'll be impressed if more than 10k do show up.

My definition of trap game is one in which we think we should win and after coming off an emotional win the week before get trapped into complacency.

NCAA.com has us winning until UCFE, which they say is a loss and having us in playoffs away against MSU. https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/...playoff-bracket-predictions-teams-seeds-picks
 
Green Cookie Monster said:
SDHornet said:
Depends on your definition of trap game. I view a trap game when you are looking ahead to a big game and isht the bed against a lesser opponent. There no big games on the schedule until Causeway which is 5 weeks out and NAU isn't that much of a lesser opponent. We'll lose if the Hornets have a sloppy game and the NAU offense stays hot.

Also a sizable storm is on the horizon. If it hits early during the Saturday night game, NAU will have the advantage given their ability to pound the rock with Daniels. Between the storm and the vax passport requirements, I'll be impressed if more than 10k do show up.

My definition of trap game is one in which we think we should win and after coming off an emotional win the week before get trapped into complacency.

NCAA.com has us winning until UCFE, which they say is a loss and having us in playoffs away against MSU. https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/...playoff-bracket-predictions-teams-seeds-picks

With almost 20 years of hornet heartache under my belt, I will never assume any game is a win.
 
I hadn't heard that they'd upped the seeds to 8. Really, the entire field should be seeded.

That said, it looks like they roughly did old-school regions without saying they were doing that. I'm not thrilled with having to play the Kitties, but it's hard to get an OOC first-round game in a geographically podded playoff.

Also, I don't like how they ASSUME that the Manure Pile will beat us after we took out the higher-ranked Griz (even if the Griz WERE artificially inflated). I see us winning out. Regardless, I don't see us getting a seed even if we DO win out, though we might well get a home game out of the deal. However, in this era of 24 teams, there might well be other 8-3 teams out there (if the Manure Pile DOES beat us), so I wouldn't consider a bid in that situation a lock. If we win out, that probably WOULD be a lock at 9-2.
 
Super Hornet said:
I hadn't heard that they'd upped the seeds to 8. Really, the entire field should be seeded.

That said, it looks like they roughly did old-school regions without saying they were doing that. I'm not thrilled with having to play the Kitties, but it's hard to get an OOC first-round game in a geographically podded playoff.

Also, I don't like how they ASSUME that the Manure Pile will beat us after we took out the higher-ranked Griz (even if the Griz WERE artificially inflated). I see us winning out. Regardless, I don't see us getting a seed even if we DO win out, though we might well get a home game out of the deal. However, in this era of 24 teams, there might well be other 8-3 teams out there (if the Manure Pile DOES beat us), so I wouldn't consider a bid in that situation a lock. If we win out, that probably WOULD be a lock at 9-2.

Someone who hasn’t even watched a highlight of Big Sky football this year. Ok fake QB. Whatever you say.
 
Interesting Q1, Defense solid, Dunniway drives team into red zone, Asher O’Hara subbed in three times, only one FG.
 

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