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Week 9 - @ Eastern Washington
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SWWeatherCat
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webercat said:
Weber certainly had their chances. I got increasingly frustrated with what I thought was conservative-to-bad play call in clutch times, and some poor player decisions. I'd love for Hill to get his team(several players in particular) to shut-up and just play football. There's no need for any taunting after nice plays and there seems to be a lot of it.
Anyway, it was a good effort but I don't know about Weber outplaying Eastern so soundly. Yes, they controlled the time of possession. Yes, they put up good offensive totals, however, unless I'm mistaken, the offense did not score against a so-so defense and was nearly shutout the last three quarters. Yes, they had to deal with the wind and rain but so did Eastern. The fact is, the closer Weber gets to the Red Zone the worse the play call gets and the worse the offense looks.
There is a lot of young talent at the skills positions, I hope they come of age next season but it takes a lot out of you watching them this year. They seem really close to being a very good team, but the offense is really going to need to improve if they're going to compete for a conference title. They should have a decent shot to put up two more dubs in the final two home games. Prayers go out to Drew, I hope he's OK and recovers quickly and fully.
ncaafootball
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KEEP BELIEVING!
Great Job by the Roots Network, Best Broadcast in the past 10 years for the Wildcats!
Great Job by the defense!
Even Better Job by the Secondary!
Great Job by the Offensive Line! Blew open Holes and gave the QB all day long to Throw. Best improvement for the season has been the play of the offensive line--The Hogs are in the House!
Even a better job on chewing up the clock and keeping EWU off the field.
Great Job on the fake field goal for a touchdown. Best I have seen in a long time.
Terrible job in the Red Zone, Offense can't score a touchdown in 60 minutes of Play? So yes the offense still has major issues.
Great Job Keeping the streak going of Dropping 3 or more passes per game. One drop in the EndZone by 85 Prince again, Yes he dropped it before the Corner took a swipe at it watch the replay. During the final drive with the game on the line. Drop by 1 Livingston right between his hands and Drop by 6 Dru right in his hands. And yes he completely dropped it before the Corner ever hit him, so let's not claim and great defensive encounter or hit. Some things never change, that's why coaches get fired.
Oh yea, does anyone from Weber believe in yards after a catch. No one ever does anything with the ball once they catch it accept go down and go down quickly. Their YAC's average has to be the lowest in the country. Usually a coach is willing to put up with dropped receptions by receivers because they to so much more potential with the ball to do something with it when they do catch it. However Weber keeps dropping the ball and not doing anything with it when they do catch it accept fall to the ground. Yes the count is now 34 drops for the season for the receiving corps of Weber State. Yes, It adds up quick when you have 3, 4 or 5 drops consistently each and every week for 9 weeks.
Remember Close games are won and lost by coaches, blow outs games are won and lost by players.....a lot of close loses in the past two years.
Looking to find those experts on the message board that were talking a few weeks ago about Weber State winning 6, 7 or 8 games this season. Time to pay up! Just the facts, nothing personal.
Hope posting wasn't to negative, just the facts.
Great Job by the Roots Network, Best Broadcast in the past 10 years for the Wildcats!
Great Job by the defense!
Even Better Job by the Secondary!
Great Job by the Offensive Line! Blew open Holes and gave the QB all day long to Throw. Best improvement for the season has been the play of the offensive line--The Hogs are in the House!
Even a better job on chewing up the clock and keeping EWU off the field.
Great Job on the fake field goal for a touchdown. Best I have seen in a long time.
Terrible job in the Red Zone, Offense can't score a touchdown in 60 minutes of Play? So yes the offense still has major issues.
Great Job Keeping the streak going of Dropping 3 or more passes per game. One drop in the EndZone by 85 Prince again, Yes he dropped it before the Corner took a swipe at it watch the replay. During the final drive with the game on the line. Drop by 1 Livingston right between his hands and Drop by 6 Dru right in his hands. And yes he completely dropped it before the Corner ever hit him, so let's not claim and great defensive encounter or hit. Some things never change, that's why coaches get fired.
Oh yea, does anyone from Weber believe in yards after a catch. No one ever does anything with the ball once they catch it accept go down and go down quickly. Their YAC's average has to be the lowest in the country. Usually a coach is willing to put up with dropped receptions by receivers because they to so much more potential with the ball to do something with it when they do catch it. However Weber keeps dropping the ball and not doing anything with it when they do catch it accept fall to the ground. Yes the count is now 34 drops for the season for the receiving corps of Weber State. Yes, It adds up quick when you have 3, 4 or 5 drops consistently each and every week for 9 weeks.
Remember Close games are won and lost by coaches, blow outs games are won and lost by players.....a lot of close loses in the past two years.
Looking to find those experts on the message board that were talking a few weeks ago about Weber State winning 6, 7 or 8 games this season. Time to pay up! Just the facts, nothing personal.
Hope posting wasn't to negative, just the facts.
SWWeatherCat
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ncaafootball said:
Man, get over yourself. Here's some simple math: 4 wins on the books + 2 possible wins at home vs the bottom of the conference = 6 wins. Not saying it's gonna happen, just saying it is certainly possible. Weber had 3 "Big K" chances to beat 5th ranked EWU on their turf today despite a poor O and even poorer OC. Had they won, they'd still be in the hunt for 7 wins. Let's go back even further than two weeks to before the season started when I (guessed) Weber would win 5 and hoped they'd be in position to "steal" 1 or 2 more.
They are still in position to win 5 or 6, a very respectable improvement over the last 3 seasons. Where were they picked to finish? 11th. Where do they currently sit? 6th, having beaten #4 and #5. I'm disappointed Weber missed opportunities to do something quite special this season but the fact is they've done better than expected. Make a similar improvement next year and they're contending for the BSC and competing for a playoff spot. I hope I wasn't too optimistic for you.
It kills me to read the posts on the EWU forum. They keep blaming the performance on the weather, but it was the weather that helped them win. They also have a thread that says how their special teams won the game.... :wtf: one poster said "we blocked three of their FG attempts." again, :wtf: they were not blocked, but missed. We lost the game, they did not win the game without our help. The funny thing is this; they can blame the weather, but WSU also had to play in the same conditions. We out gained them in the air and on the ground. Clark had the same throwing conditions as EWU guy, WSU just had a better defense today.So enough of the excuses I have heard today.
Also, I think the game should have not ended on our 4th down incomplete pass to Batchelor. That was a clear targeting hit on Drew, the defender went in with his head down, going for Drew's head. Clearly helmet-to-helmet foul. The defender was not going for the ball either.That is a personal foul and a new set of downs, with 9 seconds and a timeout. The side judge clearly saw the hit, and did not throw a flag. Very disappointed in that ref today.
Take a look for yourself. :bad:
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Take a look for yourself. :bad:
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talhadfoursteals
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WSUfan said:
Please, someone send this into the league offices. I couldn't believe nothing was called. I was jumping up and down screaming helmet to helmet. This is absolute proof that occurred. That side judge needs to lose his job. There's a reason why those type of penalties exist. To protect players at a disadvantage which Batchelor was. Mitch Tulane was suspended last season for something far calmer than that play. Absolutely irresponsible result by the ref.
As for your other comment. Out of the Eagles wins over the Cats stretching back to 2008, eastern needed something miraculous each time to win. Carpenter causing Smith to fumble, Hoke fumbling twice on game winning drives, Higgins throwing 5 picks three in the end zone, and now misses FGs. Only in 13, did they actually beat us! If it wasn't for stupid ASS mistakes the Cats would be 6-1. This is why I HATE Eastern they get soooo damn lucky. It isn't skill, coaching, but blatant freaking luck that they beat the Cats.
Weber has lost 2 games to teams we are better than! NAU and now Eastern Steve Clark is the worst at calling plays in the red zone. He is predictable and waaay to freakin tentative we need an OC with some Balls!
N.OgdenCat said:
We have definitely had some battles over the years, and it took some serious luck for the Eagles to win that game yesterday, but as for the rest of your sentiments, well...I respectfully disagree, and to be honest, it just sounds like sour grapes.
When a team has won 4 out of the last 5 BSC championships, has multiple deep playoff runs (including a national championship), and a record of 45-6 against Big Sky competition during that stretch, there is more to it than luck. Has there been some luck involved? Probably, but you don't post those kind of records just being lucky all the time.
Props to Weber. They played a great game defensively yesterday, and the wind and rain definitely limited EWU's offense and forced them into a type of game that they don't like to play. When the EWU offense doesn't have the ability to stretch the field vertically, it struggles. All Weber really had to take away everything underneath, because EWU wasn't going to throw the ball downfield much in that wind.
As for the injured Weber WR, we are all pulling for him and hoping there's no long-term ramifications. It didn't look like helmet to helmet contact on TV, but I'd have to go back and watch it. The announcers commented that it was a hard, but clean, hit. Hope he's up and back at it soon.
thewaterboy
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It has indeed been sent to the league this morning. I sent it to them myself.N.OgdenCat said:
thewaterboy said:
:thumb: I did too.
EWUranger, please look at the instagram picture. You don't tackle with your head leveled at an opposing players head. That was a blatant spearing and should have been called. I only hope that Batchelor is okay and that the Eastern player gets suspended.
How is Drew doing? Hopefully will be fine.
As I look at the pic I see the receiver reaching down for the pass he just dropped and the defender going in for the tackle, not anticipating the receiver would drop the ball and reach down for it. The receivers helmet came down which the defender could not have anticipated. I do not see anything malicious just football contact.
Football is a contact sport... not soccer
As I look at the pic I see the receiver reaching down for the pass he just dropped and the defender going in for the tackle, not anticipating the receiver would drop the ball and reach down for it. The receivers helmet came down which the defender could not have anticipated. I do not see anything malicious just football contact.
Football is a contact sport... not soccer
thewaterboy
Active member
By rule THIS IS helmet to helmet. It does NOT matter what the WR did or didnt do. I am not claiming this was intentional but it definitly should have been a penalty. :twocents:clawman said:
talhadfoursteals
Active member
clawman said:
Claws, first, I most definitely disagree with your assessment, but fans of opposing teams will see things differently. We will just have to agree to disagree on that one. Second, thank you for your concern. Our prayers are with Drew and his family right now. Hopeful that this isn't serious. As for news about him, nothing has come out yet about Batchelor. I'm hopeful that coach will talk a bit about it tomorrow when a local radio program throws Coach Hill a bone and gives him 10mins to talk about Weber. Even though they ask him more questions about BYU, Utah, and Utah State, than Weber. Here at Weber we don't really get much information. We don't have a coaches radio show, there aren't any coaches luncheons, we don't get much from our journalists covering the team, and the department doesn't really like to tell fans anything. So, we are stuck with our hands on our hips wondering. :roll:
SWWeatherCat
Active member
thewaterboy said:
:+1:
RULE:
"No player shall target and initiate contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul."
KEY INDICATORS:
" - Leading with helmet, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with contact at the head or neck area"
" - Lowering the head before attacking by initiating contact with the crown of the helmet"
I do not not see anything "malicious" described in the rule description, simply, "not leading with the helmet" and "no lowering the head before attacking." The photo could be added to the "textbook" definition. When I saw it live I questioned it, when I saw the replay I got a little excited, and when I saw the photo with the ref staring right at it I got mad.
