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What type of offense and defense will we have?

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Beardown

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I've been trying to find video of Alcorn's games from last season but can't find any. What kind of offense and defense will the coaches bring? Pro-style? Multi-set? Spread? On defense are we going 3-4? 4-3?
 
This may give you a quick look at the style of offense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QOMCz3A4-8

But at the players meeting the OC told the players they will dictate what they do based on their strengths but in any case it will be fast tempo like Oregon.

Not sure about the "D" package...
 
idk about the d, but what i've heard about the o makes me feel uncomfortable....... the new coaches want to run the oregon offense! here, in greeley! wow! they want a run first qb, blocking wr's, and a stud rb to block and pound out yards for the qb. alot of bubble screens and 5 yard passes. don't throw the long ball, throw short and have our qb be the rushing yardage leader. at alcorn last year there qb threw for a 1000 and rushed for 1500. the qb was coached to run first...maybe they can recruit this type of player. but its sure not whats on roster today! of the 5 qb's returning, we don't have one that fits this profile. d.o. and baca are not big enough to handle a full season of run first. labato has long ball stregnth and not much accuracey, but if they don't use it and throw 5-10 yard passes 10x a game, i can't see him being to happy. deen is a pocket passer,with probally the most accurate arm of them all, i don't think he can survive a season of run first. timmy t, thanks for the help! and the rb's? burnley is just 1 guy, and, is he eligable? and behind him we are small. can morton pound the ball? we have a very good core of wr's. but ther talents are catching mid to long balls, not blocking. then there is our oline. it all starts with them. will they as a group be any better running this type of o? idk.
i'm not sure this is true, but i heard the o.c. went to chris morris and asked if he would switch to qb,wtf? also, they are trying to get there alcorn st, qb to transfer here too.
well, it looks like will be rebuilding for the next 3-5 years as they bring in there type of player, nice! and then will start this stuff all over again.
we are who we are, i dont mind an agressive, new style offfense, but, should'nt we be working to make better what we have already?
 
This is what I found out about 2010 Alcorn State offense: Team Passing--2261 yds
----------------------------------------------------------------------Team rushing-1221 yds
After watching the video playerparent sent, it looks like they were not afraid to throw the football!!! Not sure about Mr Lippys info. Oregon mixed it up pretty good w/ --244 yds per game passsing
--286 yds rushing
their receivers had some ave. yds of 17,16 & 14 per catch so I don't think its all short passing and run the football but rushing was their strength.
 
Lippy- did you read what player parent wrote? They will fit the offense under our strengths. They won't fit a square into a round peg.
 
is it spring yet?
thats the real test of what we are going to look like for next year. believe me, i hope we are balanced, and the coaches 'do' install an o thats fits are strong points on personel. i just would hate to see us be something we're not. thats a complex offense at the u of o. it takes alot of dedicated players and coaches to run it.
 
mrlippy said:
idk about the d, but what i've heard about the o makes me feel uncomfortable....... the new coaches want to run the oregon offense! here, in greeley! wow! they want a run first qb, blocking wr's, and a stud rb to block and pound out yards for the qb. alot of bubble screens and 5 yard passes. don't throw the long ball, throw short and have our qb be the rushing yardage leader. at alcorn last year there qb threw for a 1000 and rushed for 1500. the qb was coached to run first...maybe they can recruit this type of player. but its sure not whats on roster today! of the 5 qb's returning, we don't have one that fits this profile. d.o. and baca are not big enough to handle a full season of run first. labato has long ball stregnth and not much accuracey, but if they don't use it and throw 5-10 yard passes 10x a game, i can't see him being to happy. deen is a pocket passer,with probally the most accurate arm of them all, i don't think he can survive a season of run first. timmy t, thanks for the help! and the rb's? burnley is just 1 guy, and, is he eligable? and behind him we are small. can morton pound the ball? we have a very good core of wr's. but ther talents are catching mid to long balls, not blocking. then there is our oline. it all starts with them. will they as a group be any better running this type of o? idk.
i'm not sure this is true, but i heard the o.c. went to chris morris and asked if he would switch to qb,wtf? also, they are trying to get there alcorn st, qb to transfer here too.
well, it looks like will be rebuilding for the next 3-5 years as they bring in there type of player, nice! and then will start this stuff all over again.
we are who we are, i dont mind an agressive, new style offfense, but, should'nt we be working to make better what we have already?
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Orms IS a running quarterback, we used him in the Wildcat in 2008-09. IMO, he would be great in a Oregon-style, spread option offense, and that is exactly what I want to see us running this year.
 
mrlippy said:
is it spring yet?
thats the real test of what we are going to look like for next year. believe me, i hope we are balanced, and the coaches 'do' install an o thats fits are strong points on personel. i just would hate to see us be something we're not. thats a complex offense at the u of o. it takes alot of dedicated players and coaches to run it.
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I understand where you're coming from, but you have to understand that this isn't Downing and CO anymore. These guys actually know what they're doing. Also the video that was posted was a highlight video of a receiver.
 
mrlippy said:
idk about the d, but what i've heard about the o makes me feel uncomfortable....... the new coaches want to run the oregon offense! here, in greeley! wow! they want a run first qb, blocking wr's, and a stud rb to block and pound out yards for the qb. alot of bubble screens and 5 yard passes. don't throw the long ball, throw short and have our qb be the rushing yardage leader. at alcorn last year there qb threw for a 1000 and rushed for 1500. the qb was coached to run first...maybe they can recruit this type of player. but its sure not whats on roster today! of the 5 qb's returning, we don't have one that fits this profile. d.o. and baca are not big enough to handle a full season of run first. labato has long ball stregnth and not much accuracey, but if they don't use it and throw 5-10 yard passes 10x a game, i can't see him being to happy. deen is a pocket passer,with probally the most accurate arm of them all, i don't think he can survive a season of run first. timmy t, thanks for the help! and the rb's? burnley is just 1 guy, and, is he eligable? and behind him we are small. can morton pound the ball? we have a very good core of wr's. but ther talents are catching mid to long balls, not blocking. then there is our oline. it all starts with them. will they as a group be any better running this type of o? idk.
i'm not sure this is true, but i heard the o.c. went to chris morris and asked if he would switch to qb,wtf? also, they are trying to get there alcorn st, qb to transfer here too.
well, it looks like will be rebuilding for the next 3-5 years as they bring in there type of player, nice! and then will start this stuff all over again.
we are who we are, i dont mind an agressive, new style offfense, but, should'nt we be working to make better what we have already?
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Damn Lippy. You're never satisfied. You weren't happy with Peterson's offense and now you're not happy with what coach Collins is bringing. That receiver in the video had almost every one of his catches 15 yards or beyond.
 
I was able to confirm what Mr. Lippy said about Chris Morris, WR, transferring to QB. He has been asked and has accepted a transfer from WR to QB. The new coaching staff must not have much faith in our existing quarterbacks.

My understanding is that Morris has never played QB, but has been told he will have a good chance to start next season.

Has anyone ever seen Morris play QB and what does this mean for the team and currnet QB's?
 
he's got a hammered shoulder with no throwing stregnth, true, he has never played qb. i believe he told the staff he did not want to switch positions.....
bear down, i liked coach pete's o, i liked his play calling, i did'nt like the sac st game or the south dakota game plan. i just don't know what he was thinking in either game. i also did not like the rotation of his qb's labato had no business on the field, he was never ready in any situation he was put into. and that really erked me with him. but i believe pete's o fit out dynamics of our personel.
this new approach may work in time, but, it may be a tuff pill to swallow for the next few years. and i think everyones ready to see some more 'wins' in the win column. thats all
 
Mr. Lippy when I referenced Oregon's offense I was specifically talking about the TEMPO not necessary the play calling. If they are successful in installing that type of tempo where our team can get 70 to 80 plays per game it would make us difficult to emulate in a week's worth of game prep. Also, there are many versions of the spread offense, from a passing one to a running run, case in point from the NFL Green Bay, New England, Indianapolis, etc... and they certainly don't push their QB's to run first... I agree with Brian, let's just win and I agree with you...really looking forward to Spring Ball!

P.S. Rockyfan, not sure who your sources are re: CM but I'd double and triple check them before I'd post anything they tell you...
 
PlayerParent said:
Mr. Lippy when I referenced Oregon's offense I was specifically talking about the TEMPO not necessary the play calling. If they are successful in installing that type of tempo where our team can get 70 to 80 plays per game it would make us difficult to emulate in a week's worth of game prep. Also, there are many versions of the spread offense, from a passing one to a running run, case in point from the NFL Green Bay, New England, Indianapolis, etc... and they certainly don't push their QB's to run first... I agree with Brian, let's just win and I agree with you...really looking forward to Spring Ball!
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I think DO would thrive in a run Qb oriented offense. The kid is a great player. I think he was made more for Darnell's offense, but the problem with Darnell's offense was it was too predictable and he kept going back to plays that weren't working. DO is the man though!
 
From the videos that I've seen the offense looks like the one Darnell tried to run. Which I think we're capable of running, plus I think this staff actually knows how to run this type of offense. I also find it hard to believe that Morris was asked to switch to QB, Orms as well as the other QBs are perfectly capable of running an offense like that.
 
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