What was that last nite in Vegas???

[hornutluver]

I watched my team with dissapointment. I thought the coaches were going to take the next step but it doesn't appear thats the case. No offensive spark and the play calling was terrible. They purposely ran the play clock down. UNLV subbed in players like it was a scrimmage and audition for them and they were never threatened in the game which was a sleeper to watch. If this team doesn't win at least 5 games this season, it would have to point to the coaches lack of preparation and competency because the talent is there.

 

[SactoHornetAlum]

You know...I think with an unproven LB corps, we were going to have a game like last night. That and with the WR still trying to jell...I think it was to be expected. Now, on to Poly, they havent played yet and we have...and they lost pretty much their entire offense, so it will be interesting to see how we come out and execute. Coach said we didn't make plays. We will need to starting Saturday.

Go Hornets!!!

 

[hornutluver]

You know...I think with an unproven LB corps, we were going to have a game like last night. That and with the WR still trying to jell...I think it was to be expected. Now, on to Poly, they havent played yet and we have...and they lost pretty much their entire offense, so it will be interesting to see how we come out and execute. Coach said we didn't make plays. We will need to starting Saturday.

Go Hornets!!!

I don't want hear that as I'm waking up in my hotel room and trying to get the bad taste out of my mouth.
Bottom line we got nearly a quarter of mil to play there and to show up and play this namby pamby ball control O and not test them out is pure BS. The game plan was mediocre at best. If this is a preview of whats to come from season, my suggestion is to sell Beer at our home games

 

[SDHornet]

I watched my team with dissapointment. I thought the coaches were going to take the next step but it doesn't appear thats the case. No offensive spark and the play calling was terrible. They purposely ran the play clock down. UNLV subbed in players like it was a scrimmage and audition for them and they were never threatened in the game which was a sleeper to watch. If this team doesn't win at least 5 games this season, it would have to point to the coaches lack of preparation and competency because the talent is there.

I have to strongly agree with hornutluver. This was my first time watching a Sperbeck coached game and it were eerily reminiscent of a Moosh game. Running out of the shotgun is probably the most inefficient thing any team with our level of talent can do. Also I thought the offensive play calling was extremely predictable. The shotgun runs where getting stuffed so they moved the QB under center when a run play was called. I thought it was ridiculous. Also the offensive play calling at the end of the game was unacceptable. Mid-way through the 4th quarter, Sperbeck decided to pack it in and run out the clock. It was just sad. At no time during the game was a deep pass thrown. Throwing deep stretches the defense, which in turn opens the running game.

Now to the positives of the game. If the defense plays every game the way they did the 1st half, Sac State will have a chance to win every game this season. They did a great job of containment, and had a bend but not break type of defense that buckled down and made a stop when they needed to. The linebackers will get tested this week against the triple option threat of cal poly. This is where we will really see how the defense will respond to a challenge. Also I was impressed with the play of the defensive line through much of the game. They battled hard and showed they will be a force this season. For the defensive backs, they had a tough challenge going into the game and played well enough to keep the team in the game though the 1st half and most of the 3rd quarter. For whatever reason(s), the wheels just kind of fell off and UNLV was able to rack up 3 4th quarter TD’s.

All in all, 99 passing yards of offense isn’t going to get it done against anyone this season. They will need to stretch the field by taking some shots down the field. cal poly returns a lot of their defensive starters so it will be interesting to see how the Hornets respond offensively. As much as I would like to see the Hornets shove the ball down the throat of the defense on the ground, I would like to see the Hornets move the ball through the air with efficiency and effectiveness. This will be the true determination of how this season will shape out.

In closing, the game ball will definitely have to go to the kicker Chris Diniz for drilling that 44 yard field goal at the end of the first half. There were wind gusts of 32 mph recorded during the game so this was no easy task. This put the Hornets on the scoreboard and eliminated the possibility of a shutout.
If you are still looking for something to smile about, “the farm extension” lost 51-0 in Fresno. They still have to play at Boise State :lol: :lol: :lol: and host Montana.

 

[superhornet]

I hereby take my lumps. The thing that bugs me is that after one game, there seem to be those around here (the very ones who predicted such a blowout) who are ready to pack it in. We have good people on the board like SHA and SDHornet who are pointing out some very good positives that came out of the game, particularly in the first half. I still feel that a VERY successful season is possible if that good first half (particularly on defense) can be translated into a 60-minute effort. To trash the entire season on the basis of one freaking game is irresponsible in the highest degree, IMO.

 

[hitsomebody79]

I hereby take my lumps. The thing that bugs me is that after one game, there seem to be those around here (the very ones who predicted such a blowout) who are ready to pack it in. We have good people on the board like SHA and SDHornet who are pointing out some very good positives that came out of the game, particularly in the first half. I still feel that a VERY successful season is possible if that good first half (particularly on defense) can be translated into a 60-minute effort. To trash the entire season on the basis of one freaking game is irresponsible in the highest degree, IMO.

i predicted a hornet win. if it were against USC, i'd say blowout. i am all for the men on the field and their efforts, A+. they are the ones in the battle.

what i am pissed about (and i think everyone who was there is), is the efforts of the men in slacks, golf shirts and ballcaps on the sidelines. case in point: last sac possession in the game, about 4 minutes left on our own 40+- and it was about 4th and 3+-. and we decide to punt! was there ANY confidence in your players, coaches? were you worried about it being 45-3 instead of 38-3?

i am totally hopeful for the rest of the season and the strength of our team. i am just pissed at the men directing our guys on the field.

 

[Sac Rat]

Interesting posts about the unimaginative and conservative play calling. I did not watch the game but did listen to it on the radio while multi-tasking -- a danger in itself. But, if I may play devil's advocate. Knowing the chances to win this game outright were slim, could the coaching staff have gone with the generic game plan so as not to reveal the playbook for an eager and waiting Cal Poly this Saturday? Also, with UNLV ranked in the 115 range in stopping the run, with 8 returners on defense, was it all that unrealistic to run, and run often? If not, please proceed to shred.

 

[hornet4life]

hitsomebody79's comment is pretty hard to argue with.

 

[sacfan09]

Interesting posts about the unimaginative and conservative play calling. I did not watch the game but did listen to it on the radio while multi-tasking -- a danger in itself. But, if I may play devil's advocate. Knowing the chances to win this game outright were slim, could the coaching staff have gone with the generic game plan so as not to reveal the playbook for an eager and waiting Cal Poly this Saturday? Also, with UNLV ranked in the 115 range in stopping the run, with 8 returners on defense, was it all that unrealistic to run, and run often? If not, please proceed to shred.

I think UNLV had more to lose in opening up the playbook. Sac St should of let it all hang out and if they held back for those reasons, Sperbeck should be looking for other employment. Playing conservative the way I hear will demoralize players confidence and dash chances to recruit better. On another note, hope Herky is felling better.

 

[Sac Rat]

I am loving these new posters who have less than 8 or 6 posts bringing all the negativity. It livens up the board and there is nothing more fun than arguing. I think to base your whole case on one play call that meant going for it on 4th and 3 on your side of the field down 30 points late in the 4th quarter is weak. Giving the ball to the Rebels at your 40 when they had been scoring at will in the 2nd half would have been more demoralizing.

 

[hitsomebody79]

sacfan09 you hit the nail on the head.

by 'playing it safe' and not revealing your playbook, you not only piss off your players, you actually give poly MORE confidence going into the game! ("Sac couldn't move the ball worth sheet against unlv, let's just focus on dailey and it's an easy win").

winners don't go into a tough game holding back anything, it's balls out and let's take these guys and put us on the map! even if you lose. (i can see holding back your secret fake punt, special reverse play, hail mary plays, etc.). but ya gotta reveal your cards to win sometime, even kenny rogers knows that. so this next week against poly are we gonna hold back so EWU doesn't know our gameplan, and so on and so on?

practice and success breed more success. the hornets offense would have gotten such a rush of confidence after a dailey run, to get a 12 yard pass. then another 2 runs, then a swing pass. next thing the offense knows, they're marching the ball in UNLV's house down to the red zone! yeah baby, confidence! even if we didn't win, this manner of moving the ball and mixing it up would just jack our guys up for this week,and for the season!

now all they know is that they got their asses handed to them in vegas, and they have no real knowledge of how good they are, if they can move the ball, and even score.

i was down by the locker room to talk and visit with players and family after the game. many people and players were pissed off, and it was't just because they lost. it was why they lost. i am with them.

let's have a good week of practice and coach with confidence.

 

[hitsomebody79]

I am loving these new posters who have less than 8 or 6 posts bringing all the negativity. It livens up the board and there is nothing more fun than arguing. I think to base your whole case on one play call that meant going for it on 4th and 3 on your side of the field down 30 points late in the 4th quarter is weak. Giving the ball to the Rebels at your 40 when they had been scoring at will in the 2nd half would have been more demoralizing.

more demoralizing than not even giving you the chance to get the first down and actually succeeding? everything i've read about dailey's performance makes me believe he could have gotten the first. and it's not the case of just this one play, this one play was the exclamation point. it had been going on all game long.

and yeah, yer spot on: 38-3 instead of 45-3 just feels so much better...

 

[hitsomebody79]

sac rat

here's another post so i can catch up to your whopping 13 posts.

 

[Sac Rat]

Touche! I will try and start to post more. I just found the message board this year. ; )

As for opening the playbook, I had recalled a very simple game plan in last year's opener too. Granted it was Div. II opposition but the pass attempts against Humboldt was 18, with 12 completions for 137 yards. Against UNLV it was 9 completions out of 19 passes for 99 yards. As for number of rushes, 46 against Humboldt compared to 36 against UNLV. Not much difference in pass and rush attempts.

When you look at the first half against UNLV, Sac threw 6 times and only completed 3 passes. They started to have greater success running the ball in the 2nd quarter with Dailey that put them in a position to get the field goal.

In the 3rd quarter, the Hornets in their first series threw 3 times and failed to get the first down. I wondered why they went to the pass when they had success running the 2nd quarter. They go back to the run in the second series and actually pick up a first down. Smith than can't complete a pass and gets sacked. Only in the 4th quarter does Smith complete a deep pass, 32 yard, but other than that, he struggled.

So, they are still somewhat in the game in the when the 4th quarter begins, only behind 17-3.

My question to those in attendance, where did the coaches go wrong in the 3rd quarter and 4th quarter? I see a play by play whereby the quarterback is struggling to make completions but having some success on the ground. What could they have done differently? You say the not going for it on the 4th down was the exclamation point. I see the 2nd quarter as having success on the ground and a quarterback not completing passes in the 3rd quarter.

As for going for it on 4th down, this is a coach who got roasted last year for going for it too many times on 4th down that ended up poorly. I can think of the NAU game for one, and possibly Montana. I would have to check.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

Sac Rat may have only double digit Sac Buzz posts, but he is Sensei here:
http://sacstatehornets.wordpress.com/

It would have been nice to have scored in the 13-17 range. With our talent we should have had more passing yards. Where were the TE's? Play action fake to a trailing TE up the middle, ucdavis has made a killing with this play.

We out 'sacked' them 2/1, Dline did well. Gordon and Shrader were rabid.
No fumbles, injuries.

We need to make adjustments, not sure what happened in the 3-4th qtr that opened up the scoring. Exhaustion, play calling, let-up, curse?

CP is beatable and we should go all out against the mustangs. Baiz knows Tim Walsh the new CP coach from when he was HC at PSU. Plus CP has switched its D scheme from what Ellerson had. The series is tied at 15, time for the Hornets to claim the Spanos Cup!

 

[Phantom Hornet]

hitsomebody79's comment is pretty hard to argue with.

I don't know why, but my BS meter and Spidey-sense are tingling that hitsomebody79, hornet4life, and sacfan09 could all be the same person....something is amiss there. Also, if you have been any kind of fan of Sac State football the last couple of years, how the hell do you not know who Sac Rat is or his blog?

As far as UNLV, why so pissed off over a game against a superior team that means nothing? A win over Cal Poly is so much more important this weekend in the recruiting aspect--I would be shocked if the play calling didn't open up. I went to the game in Fort Collins last year and the offense was aggressive as hell and we almost won, so it's not like Sperbeck is afraid of stepping up and playing aggressive versus a D1 team on the road. I agree with the previous post that he probably didn't want to give Poly anything to see on film in what will be their first game of the season.

 

[hitsomebody79]

hitsomebody79's comment is pretty hard to argue with.

I don't know why, but my BS meter and Spidey-sense are tingling that hitsomebody79, hornet4life, and sacfan09 could all be the same person....something is amiss there. Also, if you have been any kind of fan of Sac State football the last couple of years, how the hell do you not know who Sac Rat is or his blog?

As far as UNLV, why so pissed off over a game against a superior team that means nothing? A win over Cal Poly is so much more important this weekend in the recruiting aspect--I would be shocked if the play calling didn't open up. I went to the game in Fort Collins last year and the offense was aggressive as hell and we almost won, so it's not like Sperbeck is afraid of stepping up and playing aggressive versus a D1 team on the road. I agree with the previous post that he probably didn't want to give Poly anything to see on film in what will be their first game of the season.

yer dead wrong sherlock - just because a few posters agree and support each other's opinions does not a conspiracy make (and no, i was not on the grassy knoll in dallas either). and with your line of reasoning, you agreeing "with the previous post about not giving poly anything to see on film" makes my BS meter tick a little also. i am just a fan who traveled to the vegas game with high hopes of the hornets showing up, and not playing to lose.

why am i "pissed over a superior team that means nothing?" because a competitive game against unlv would have also opened some prospective recruits eyes, just as a poly win would. and it would have given the players some confidence. did BYU have your attitude going into this last weekend before they won? gee, let's not open our playbook...

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

W&M beat UVA and Richmond beat Duke, they sure were not afraid of opening up the playbook. CP opened up their whoopass book against SD State and Wisconsin last year, that holds more credibility beating a FBS than the 'saving' yourself for a CP conspiracy theory. What if we lose to CP, then we are 0-2.

Also, I thought we wanted to grow, playing wall flower to a team in a conference we should aspire to be in someday doesn't bode well for 'look how far we have grown'.

Just sayin'

 

[Kadeezy]

Sac Rat may have only double digit Sac Buzz posts, but he is Sensei here:
http://sacstatehornets.wordpress.com/

It would have been nice to have scored in the 13-17 range. With our talent we should have had more passing yards. Where were the TE's? Play action fake to a trailing TE up the middle, ucdavis has made a killing with this play.

We out 'sacked' them 2/1, Dline did well. Gordon and Shrader were rabid.
No fumbles, injuries.

We need to make adjustments, not sure what happened in the 3-4th qtr that opened up the scoring. Exhaustion, play calling, let-up, curse?

CP is beatable and we should go all out against the mustangs. Baiz knows Tim Walsh the new CP coach from when he was HC at PSU. Plus CP has switched its D scheme from what Ellerson had. The series is tied at 15, time for the Hornets to claim the Spanos Cup!

PROPS to SacRat!!!

He is hornet football's biggest booster IMO, regardless of whether or not he ever contributed a dime to the athletic dept. His blog is a Hornet bible...

 

[StungAlum]

Sac Rat may have only double digit Sac Buzz posts, but he is Sensei here:
http://sacstatehornets.wordpress.com/

It would have been nice to have scored in the 13-17 range. With our talent we should have had more passing yards. Where were the TE's? Play action fake to a trailing TE up the middle, ucdavis has made a killing with this play.

We out 'sacked' them 2/1, Dline did well. Gordon and Shrader were rabid.
No fumbles, injuries.

We need to make adjustments, not sure what happened in the 3-4th qtr that opened up the scoring. Exhaustion, play calling, let-up, curse?

CP is beatable and we should go all out against the mustangs. Baiz knows Tim Walsh the new CP coach from when he was HC at PSU. Plus CP has switched its D scheme from what Ellerson had. The series is tied at 15, time for the Hornets to claim the Spanos Cup!

PROPS to SacRat!!!

He is hornet football's biggest booster IMO, regardless of whether or not he ever contributed a dime to the athletic dept. His blog is a Hornet bible...

Dito!