What's going on at UNC?

[ajwildcat]

Congrats to Jeff. Good guy and great opportunity. I hope he does well.

kinda an exaggeration by the cubbies SID on his recruitment of Damian Lillard.

I think every coach,former player, trainer and water boy at WSU during Lillards time here claims on their resume that they helped recruit and mold Lillards game. Hell maybe me as a fan motivated Lillard to work harder by cheering for him in games.....time to go freshen up my resume. :-D
Anywho, good hire by Da Bears. Jeff is a good coach and a good guy. Good Luck Jeff you gonna need it. :twocents:

 

[oldrunner]

Is this a good hire for UNC? Being that he spent a few years in Ogden, can you give any insight into his philosophies? Player development?

He wasn't really here long enough for anyone to really get to know him. I'm not sure that any of us know much about him. Sort of a stranger passing in the night. I do hope that he is able to have a little success in Greely. :thumb:

 

[n.ogdencat]

Is this a good hire for UNC? Being that he spent a few years in Ogden, can you give any insight into his philosophies? Player development?

He wasn't really here long enough for anyone to really get to know him. I'm not sure that any of us know much about him. Sort of a stranger passing in the night. I do hope that he is able to have a little success in Greely. :thumb:

Beardown...like Olds said, it is kinda hard to get a reading on Jeff. He was here for two years. Yes, he was part of a miraculous resurgence during Rahe's first year and one can't discount his support. Since leaving Ogden he has been with a decent San Fran team and a really good Boise State team. I think he has quite the uphill battle ahead of him, especially once the issues are revealed and the NCAA passes judgement. No matter, I'm glad that Jeff got the chance and will be a head coach. I hope he does well. Crappy situation for BJ Hill. I think he was a decent coach. He was one of the few Big Sky coaches who actually coached during games instead of riding the refs like Red Face @ PSU and Baldy @ EWash constantly do.

 

[bigskybears]

Is this a good hire for UNC? Being that he spent a few years in Ogden, can you give any insight into his philosophies? Player development?

He wasn't really here long enough for anyone to really get to know him. I'm not sure that any of us know much about him. Sort of a stranger passing in the night. I do hope that he is able to have a little success in Greely. :thumb:

Beardown...like Olds said, it is kinda hard to get a reading on Jeff. He was here for two years. Yes, he was part of a miraculous resurgence during Rahe's first year and one can't discount his support. Since leaving Ogden he has been with a decent San Fran team and a really good Boise State team. I think he has quite the uphill battle ahead of him, especially once the issues are revealed and the NCAA passes judgement. No matter, I'm glad that Jeff got the chance and will be a head coach. I hope he does well. Crappy situation for BJ Hill. I think he was a decent coach. He was one of the few Big Sky coaches who actually coached during games instead of riding the refs like Red Face @ PSU and Baldy @ EWash constantly do.

Fair assessment. We will have to wait and hopefully the penalties are not too harsh. The bigger UNC down South gets away with anything and everything. The NCAA loves to hammer the mid-majors. BTW, I also saw Steve Smiley, a Weber State assistant is heading to join Linder's staff in Greeley. Is he a good coach as well?

 

[Back2WSU]

Garside reporting on Twitter that Smiley is taking an assoc. head coach job with UNC

 

[ajwildcat]

Garside reporting on Twitter that Smiley is taking an assoc. head coach job with UNC

Smiley also posted the news on facebook himself.

 

[n.ogdencat]

Well...this is quite the change of events. Smiley is a good coach and will make an immediate impact for the cubbies.

Any ideas who Randy decides to bring up as his #3? STEW? LOL

 

[Webergrad02]

Honestly, I am happy to see a shake up with our assistants. Smiley may not be the first one that I have picked to leave, but I do feel like our coaching staff has not been as sharp and has not developed players as well after Beckners departure.

I hope we can pony up a little cash and bring in someone to help develop our big men. Maybe a coach that has enough clout to talk Randy into ditching the flash cards.

I was thinking that UNC would hire Troy Coverdale to be on the coaching staff since he is so knowledgeable, it would also save us the pain of having to listen to him once a year.

 

[bigskybears]

Honestly, I am happy to see a shake up with our assistants. Smiley may not be the first one that I have picked to leave, but I do feel like our coaching staff has not been as sharp and has not developed players as well after Beckners departure.

I hope we can pony up a little cash and bring in someone to help develop our big men. Maybe a coach that has enough clout to talk Randy into ditching the flash cards.

I was thinking that UNC would hire Troy Coverdale to be on the coaching staff since he is so knowledgeable, it would also save us the pain of having to listen to him once a year.

:rofl: :rofl: :clap: :clap:

Troy is a good guy and one of the best in the conference.

 

[oldrunner]

Honestly, I am happy to see a shake up with our assistants. Smiley may not be the first one that I have picked to leave, but I do feel like our coaching staff has not been as sharp and has not developed players as well after Beckners departure.

I hope we can pony up a little cash and bring in someone to help develop our big men. Maybe a coach that has enough clout to talk Randy into ditching the flash cards.

I was thinking that UNC would hire Troy Coverdale to be on the coaching staff since he is so knowledgeable, it would also save us the pain of having to listen to him once a year.

Good Gawd, can we get past that big man coach shizz! I thought that everyone could see the tremendous improvement in Hill and Bolomboy, and it had put that subject to rest. All of our coaches are 'BIG MAN' coaches.

Phil and Steve are both good coaches. One of them gets the job done with positive reinforcement and the other with negative. Choose your poison. It is really just a matter of coaching style. I am sorry to see Steve go. He is a class act.

My opinion is that Lever will be promoted to that position. Who else might be candidates, I don't know. I'm sure there are many good coaches out there. :thumb: :thumb:

 

[oldrunner]

UNC's new coaches are doing a bang up job. They currently have 17 granted players on their roster for next year. That means four off last years team, in addition to the three who have already left, will be kicked off the team by July 1st. The new coaches will have a bevy of new players. That is probably a good thing for them. It reminds me a lot of what we went through when Randy took the job with our program. A new coach has to have players who are committed to doing things their way. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[thescout]

not a fan of kicking kids off a team simply because the new coach wants his guys...without just cause it is a crappy thing to do.

 

[oldrunner]

not a fan of kicking kids off a team simply because the new coach wants his guys...without just cause it is a crappy thing to do.

A coach always has the prerogative to play the players who fit their system. I suppose that a school could give out some other form of financial aid to keep them at their school. They just wouldn't be playing basketball. Most players would want to find a place where they can play. I'm sure that there are at least 4 more guys on that team who are better suited for a DII team. Athletics can be a bit brutal.

 

[thescout]

NLI director Susan Peal said signees are "bound by the provisions of the NLI" during coaching changes because they signed the document with the institution, not for a particular sport or coach

 

[oldrunner]

NLI director Susan Peal said signees are "bound by the provisions of the NLI" during coaching changes because they signed the document with the institution, not for a particular sport or coach

That is true, and last I checked all athletic scholarships are one year deals that can be extended, if earned. Academic scholarships are handled the same way. There has been some talk of allowing a certain number of 4 year offers, but I don't think that it ever passed. These coaches are not taking anything away from anybody. They are simply not extending an offer to continue. At the end of every year, coaches evaluate their programs and may offer to extend players or not. There is nothing harsh about it. You can't lose something you never had. An LOI is a one year deal. :twocents:

 

[Skippy]

NLI director Susan Peal said signees are "bound by the provisions of the NLI" during coaching changes because they signed the document with the institution, not for a particular sport or coach

That is true, and last I checked all athletic scholarships are one year deals that can be extended, if earned. Academic scholarships are handled the same way. There has been some talk of allowing a certain number of 4 year offers, but I don't think that it ever passed. These coaches are not taking anything away from anybody. They are simply not extending an offer to continue. At the end of every year, coaches evaluate their programs and may offer to extend players or not. There is nothing harsh about it. You can't lose something you never had. An LOI is a one year deal. :twocents:

Most of the P-5 schools are now offering four-year scholarships to some athletes as part of the movement to better serve athletes. The NCAA changed the rule four years ago to allow four-year awards.

 

[oldrunner]

NLI director Susan Peal said signees are "bound by the provisions of the NLI" during coaching changes because they signed the document with the institution, not for a particular sport or coach

That is true, and last I checked all athletic scholarships are one year deals that can be extended, if earned. Academic scholarships are handled the same way. There has been some talk of allowing a certain number of 4 year offers, but I don't think that it ever passed. These coaches are not taking anything away from anybody. They are simply not extending an offer to continue. At the end of every year, coaches evaluate their programs and may offer to extend players or not. There is nothing harsh about it. You can't lose something you never had. An LOI is a one year deal. :twocents:

Most of the P-5 schools are now offering four-year scholarships to some athletes as part of the movement to better serve athletes. The NCAA changed the rule four years ago to allow four-year awards.

They may have a contract for 4 years of financial aid from the school, but they don't have a contract for 4 years on the team, or 4 years of an athletic scholarship. The athletics part of it are still a year to year thing. A coach can still kick them off the team. It happens with almost all schools, P5 included, on a regular basis.

 

[Skippy]

NLI director Susan Peal said signees are "bound by the provisions of the NLI" during coaching changes because they signed the document with the institution, not for a particular sport or coach

That is true, and last I checked all athletic scholarships are one year deals that can be extended, if earned. Academic scholarships are handled the same way. There has been some talk of allowing a certain number of 4 year offers, but I don't think that it ever passed. These coaches are not taking anything away from anybody. They are simply not extending an offer to continue. At the end of every year, coaches evaluate their programs and may offer to extend players or not. There is nothing harsh about it. You can't lose something you never had. An LOI is a one year deal. :twocents:

Most of the P-5 schools are now offering four-year scholarships to some athletes as part of the movement to better serve athletes. The NCAA changed the rule four years ago to allow four-year awards.

They may have a contract for 4 years of financial aid from the school, but they don't have a contract for 4 years on the team, or 4 years of an athletic scholarship. The athletics part of it are still a year to year thing. A coach can still kick them off the team. It happens with almost all schools, P5 included, on a regular basis.

The athletes on four-year deals can be removed for misconduct. They can't be removed for athletic reasons. Of course they can always be "advised to leave" based on playing time.

 

[n.ogdencat]

NLI director Susan Peal said signees are "bound by the provisions of the NLI" during coaching changes because they signed the document with the institution, not for a particular sport or coach

That is true, and last I checked all athletic scholarships are one year deals that can be extended, if earned. Academic scholarships are handled the same way. There has been some talk of allowing a certain number of 4 year offers, but I don't think that it ever passed. These coaches are not taking anything away from anybody. They are simply not extending an offer to continue. At the end of every year, coaches evaluate their programs and may offer to extend players or not. There is nothing harsh about it. You can't lose something you never had. An LOI is a one year deal. :twocents:

Most of the P-5 schools are now offering four-year scholarships to some athletes as part of the movement to better serve athletes. The NCAA changed the rule four years ago to allow four-year awards.

They may have a contract for 4 years of financial aid from the school, but they don't have a contract for 4 years on the team, or 4 years of an athletic scholarship. The athletics part of it are still a year to year thing. A coach can still kick them off the team. It happens with almost all schools, P5 included, on a regular basis.

The athletes on four-year deals can be removed for misconduct. They can't be removed for athletic reasons. Of course they can always be "advised to leave" based on playing time.

You are right, but I bet the vast majority of DI programs never jump on board. Waaaay to costly for mids and lower major programs. Far to much liability. Even a Presidential or Regent Scholarship awardee can lose his/her scholarship after a year. If someone can lose a major academic scholarship after a year, then it makes the most sense to keep athletic scholarships that way too.

 

[oldrunner]

NLI director Susan Peal said signees are "bound by the provisions of the NLI" during coaching changes because they signed the document with the institution, not for a particular sport or coach

That is true, and last I checked all athletic scholarships are one year deals that can be extended, if earned. Academic scholarships are handled the same way. There has been some talk of allowing a certain number of 4 year offers, but I don't think that it ever passed. These coaches are not taking anything away from anybody. They are simply not extending an offer to continue. At the end of every year, coaches evaluate their programs and may offer to extend players or not. There is nothing harsh about it. You can't lose something you never had. An LOI is a one year deal. :twocents:

Most of the P-5 schools are now offering four-year scholarships to some athletes as part of the movement to better serve athletes. The NCAA changed the rule four years ago to allow four-year awards.

They may have a contract for 4 years of financial aid from the school, but they don't have a contract for 4 years on the team, or 4 years of an athletic scholarship. The athletics part of it are still a year to year thing. A coach can still kick them off the team. It happens with almost all schools, P5 included, on a regular basis.

The athletes on four-year deals can be removed for misconduct. They can't be removed for athletic reasons. Of course they can always be "advised to leave" based on playing time.

You are right, but I bet the vast majority of DI programs never jump on board. Waaaay to costly for mids and lower major programs. Far to much liability. Even a Presidential or Regent Scholarship awardee can lose his/her scholarship after a year. If someone can lose a major academic scholarship after a year, then it makes the most sense to keep athletic scholarships that way too.

They may not loose financial aid for poor athletic performance, but that doesn't mean they couldn't be removed from the team and replaced with a more productive player.