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Why are we giving them bulletin board material ....we have to win this week first....UUGGGHH

EWU98

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Why are we shooting our mouth off? I get they are a rival, but we need to win our game first. Not like they aren't ready to go against us as it is.....

https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky-conference/university-of-montana/eastern-washington-all-american-wr-montana-didn-t-deserve-a-seed-in-the-fcs-playoffs/article_b155427b-c8b6-5f6f-ba4b-3f521689ed9e.html

I mean seriously two of the last 3 times we went there we got steam rolled! Take care of business and keep your yap shut! When you win then talk all you want!
43 November 14, 2015 Missoula, MT Montana 57–16
45 September 23, 2017 Missoula, MT Eastern Washington 48–41
46 October 26, 2019 Missoula, MT Montana 34–17
 
I think fans of teams get more pumped up over "bulletin board material" than the opposing teams players. Limu-Jones did not say anything offensive. He said what was on his mind. Good for him. Nothing wrong with candor. He is a great WR and a smart dude. If the soft and ignorant opposing fan base has an issue with that, then they can eat shit. Good for Limu-Jones.

FTG
 
What I like about what he said is that he harbors some frustration with the committee's decisions. I hope the whole team feels snubbed again, and uses that as motivation to prove the committee made the wrong decision. Also, he's clearly not intimidated by the Griz. Not sure Montana needs more bulletin board material considering they already want revenge. And I think some of the Montana peeps can at least see the logic in not thinking they deserved as high a seed. Heck, I think some of them were surprised at the seed they go.
 
dudeitsaid said:
What I like about what he said is that he harbors some frustration with the committee's decisions. I hope the whole team feels snubbed again, and uses that as motivation to prove the committee made the wrong decision. Also, he's clearly not intimidated by the Griz. Not sure Montana needs more bulletin board material considering they already want revenge. And I think some of the Montana peeps can at least see the logic in not thinking they deserved as high a seed. Heck, I think some of them were surprised at the seed they go.

Surprised at the 6 yeah. Most thought a 4 or 5. I mean it’s not like we lost to an unranked team. If we did, I would assume we wouldn’t get a seed
 
mtgrizfankb said:
dudeitsaid said:
What I like about what he said is that he harbors some frustration with the committee's decisions. I hope the whole team feels snubbed again, and uses that as motivation to prove the committee made the wrong decision. Also, he's clearly not intimidated by the Griz. Not sure Montana needs more bulletin board material considering they already want revenge. And I think some of the Montana peeps can at least see the logic in not thinking they deserved as high a seed. Heck, I think some of them were surprised at the seed they go.

Surprised at the 6 yeah. Most thought a 4 or 5. I mean it’s not like we lost to an unranked team. If we did, I would assume we wouldn’t get a seed

Yeah, you know, it's not like one of the teams you lost to had a demonstrably better schedule and an identical record or anything... that's what your AD refused to acknowledge.

LOL... just fan banter at this point. The only person that mattered in this equation was Kent Haslam, and he worked his magic. All our team can do is try to play well and get some payback.

Plus, I don't think Eastern's players and fans are truly shocked we're below Montana... sometimes it's tough to get a perfect visual based on 11 games. It's that Haslam decided Eastern wasn't even close that has people pissed. Had Eastern been 7 or 8, I think we'd all be cool with it. But to force out of the seeds altogether? That's a hard pill to swallow based on our resume.
 
Dopa, your continuing diatribe of blaming Haslam makes you appear completely ignorant to the selection process. I suspect it’s just smack, but to be honest it’s not advancing your argument.

Look, we all agree Eastern deserved a seed. They didn’t deserve to be seeded above Montana. And using a SOS argument makes no sense because of your DII game. Those are excluded from any SOS computation, but weighed HEAVILY in the eyes of the committee. Want to blame an AD? Blame your own for scheduling the DII game.
 
EWU will be playing pissed from here on in...whether that translates into wins or not..who knows. I don't care what the players say, don't care what teams are saying/thinking bout EWU or if we are even "good sports" anymore. Fork every team in the FCS, the "committe" and the horse's they rode in on.

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Happy forking Thansgiving!!
 
mtgrizfankb said:
dudeitsaid said:
What I like about what he said is that he harbors some frustration with the committee's decisions. I hope the whole team feels snubbed again, and uses that as motivation to prove the committee made the wrong decision. Also, he's clearly not intimidated by the Griz. Not sure Montana needs more bulletin board material considering they already want revenge. And I think some of the Montana peeps can at least see the logic in not thinking they deserved as high a seed. Heck, I think some of them were surprised at the seed they go.

Surprised at the 6 yeah. Most thought a 4 or 5. I mean it’s not like we lost to an unranked team. If we did, I would assume we wouldn’t get a seed

What justifies a 6 seed? The amazing performance against Dixie State? That's definitely more impressive than our win at CWU :roll: . Chalk it up to good scheduling, as the quality of the team doesn't matter as long as they are "Division 1." That one point win against SUU was pretty impressive too. You have two quality wins, UW (a crappy FBS team equivalent to what many playoff teams can claim), and MSU. UNI has a more impressive performance than UM does. Massey actually has UNI above Montana.

I agree that UM should be seeded, but to act like the resume is all-world, and better than ours isn't accurate. Truth is, all four BSC leaders should've been seeded. Heck, even if EWU was 8, I wouldn't be complaining. I just think they didn't like the optics of picking four BSC teams and had to figure out who to leave out.

I don't really care where UM is seeded. But I think reasonable people can see arguments for several different seeding scenarios including EWU, many where EWU is over UM. In terms of EWU's draw, it's hard to see a bigger shaft than they got. EWU is ranked 4th in Massey, UNI 6th, UM 7th. If EWU makes it through that, they likely get 8th rated JMU, than 1 rated NDSU, and finally 3rd rated SHSU (assuming Massey's ratings are solid). There is no other team that has to make it through a gauntlet like that, save UNI, and the Panthers should be counting their lucky stars to be in at 6-5. As a 9-2 BSC team, we definitely deserved better.

BTW, it's not like Weber was a garbage team to lose to, and they had to pull out all of the stops to win that game. They are rated just three spots behind Sac State at 15th.
 
ClarkGrizwald said:
Dopa, your continuing diatribe of blaming Haslam makes you appear completely ignorant to the selection process. I suspect it’s just smack, but to be honest it’s not advancing your argument.

Look, we all agree Eastern deserved a seed. They didn’t deserve to be seeded above Montana. And using a SOS argument makes no sense because of your DII game. Those are excluded from any SOS computation, but weighed HEAVILY in the eyes of the committee. Want to blame an AD? Blame your own for scheduling the DII game.

You're still lost on this. The D2 game means nothing... with that included, Eastern *still* had a greater strength of schedule than any of the Big Sky seeds. Plus, we weren't out there beating someone like Southern Utah by a single point.

And again, I don't even really care about being below Montana. I can live with that, but forcing Eastern into a first round game (which has never happened to a 9-2 Big Sky team before) is absurd. And why do you think Haslam isn't the guy who pushed that? He's the Big Sky's representative, so he was considered the voice of the conference. He didn't advocate for Eastern one bit, and instead lined us up with the toughest route through the playoffs that any team could possibly have. You don't think this was a conscious decision? That there was no discussion about it?

Wouldn't you be pissed about having the best Big Sky resume in history to not get a seed? Especially when the polls and analytics companies agree that you should? It's like everyone in the room thinks one thing, but one AD at a conference opponent wants to go another direction.
 
LDopaPDX said:
ClarkGrizwald said:
Dopa, your continuing diatribe of blaming Haslam makes you appear completely ignorant to the selection process. I suspect it’s just smack, but to be honest it’s not advancing your argument.

Look, we all agree Eastern deserved a seed. They didn’t deserve to be seeded above Montana. And using a SOS argument makes no sense because of your DII game. Those are excluded from any SOS computation, but weighed HEAVILY in the eyes of the committee. Want to blame an AD? Blame your own for scheduling the DII game.

You're still lost on this. The D2 game means nothing... with that included, Eastern *still* had a greater strength of schedule than any of the Big Sky seeds. Plus, we weren't out there beating someone like Southern Utah by a single point.

And again, I don't even really care about being below Montana. I can live with that, but forcing Eastern into a first round game (which has never happened to a 9-2 Big Sky team before) is absurd. And why do you think Haslam isn't the guy who pushed that? He's the Big Sky's representative, so he was considered the voice of the conference. He didn't advocate for Eastern one bit, and instead lined us up with the toughest route through the playoffs that any team could possibly have. You don't think this was a conscious decision? That there was no discussion about it?

Wouldn't you be pissed about having the best Big Sky resume in history to not get a seed? Especially when the polls and analytics companies agree that you should? It's like everyone in the room thinks one thing, but one AD at a conference opponent wants to go another direction.

You really DON’T understand the process. Read about SOS and the committee’s handling of DII games.

No, you didn’t barely beat SUU. But you barely beat WIU, a team five other playoff teams beat by 30+. And you gave up FIFTY SIX to them.



I’m clearly on record as starting eastern deserved a seed.



Let’s make the ridiculous assumption for a moment that Haslam was out to somehow fuck eastern over. At BEST he’d have 1/10 of a vote to do so. And if he had such great ans mighty powers, why the HELL would he put the GRIZ where hw did? Again, I get the argument eastern should have been the 7 or 8. I agree. To blame Haslam just highlights your ignorance on the process.

Again, your DII game is why you’re where you are. If there’s anyone to blame, it’s your AD.
 
Even as an Eastern fan this is getting boring. Montana's seeding had nothing to do with Eastern not being seeded. Eastern only won 8 D1 games.
Conference championships matter. ETSU and Villanova are both conference champions. ETSU and Villanova both won 9 D-1 games.
Eastern did not earn a seed.
 
Who cares! The only ones who are butt hurt are the thin skin grizz fans! I'm sure the Montana players are big boys and can handle it wthout their feelings getting hurt. Honestly after Montana lost the last game you know they will be lazer focust n this game and 30 seconds into the game they wont even be thinking about some dumb article written in some hillbilly blog.
 
ClarkGrizwald said:
Dopa, your continuing diatribe of blaming Haslam makes you appear completely ignorant to the selection process. I suspect it’s just smack, but to be honest it’s not advancing your argument.

Look, we all agree Eastern deserved a seed. They didn’t deserve to be seeded above Montana. And using a SOS argument makes no sense because of your DII game. Those are excluded from any SOS computation, but weighed HEAVILY in the eyes of the committee. Want to blame an AD? Blame your own for scheduling the DII game.

We got stuck with a DII game this season when JMU backed out of the scheduled game we had with them.
 
EWU98 said:
Why are we shooting our mouth off? I get they are a rival, but we need to win our game first. Not like they aren't ready to go against us as it is.....

https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky-conference/university-of-montana/eastern-washington-all-american-wr-montana-didn-t-deserve-a-seed-in-the-fcs-playoffs/article_b155427b-c8b6-5f6f-ba4b-3f521689ed9e.html

I mean seriously two of the last 3 times we went there we got steam rolled! Take care of business and keep your yap shut! When you win then talk all you want!
43 November 14, 2015 Missoula, MT Montana 57–16
45 September 23, 2017 Missoula, MT Eastern Washington 48–41
46 October 26, 2019 Missoula, MT Montana 34–17

I dont disagree with him. They asked for his opinion and he gave an honest answer. We did get snubbed by Haslam and the rest.

I agree with focusing on the task at hand (uni) but if we should meet them again I doubt they need any more motivation to beat a team they lost to earlier in the season.
 
Seattle Eagle said:
ClarkGrizwald said:
Dopa, your continuing diatribe of blaming Haslam makes you appear completely ignorant to the selection process. I suspect it’s just smack, but to be honest it’s not advancing your argument.

Look, we all agree Eastern deserved a seed. They didn’t deserve to be seeded above Montana. And using a SOS argument makes no sense because of your DII game. Those are excluded from any SOS computation, but weighed HEAVILY in the eyes of the committee. Want to blame an AD? Blame your own for scheduling the DII game.

We got stuck with a DII game this season when JMU backed out of the scheduled game we had with them.

Probably should have beat Weber then... :coffee:
 
GetEm_Griz said:
Seattle Eagle said:
ClarkGrizwald said:
Dopa, your continuing diatribe of blaming Haslam makes you appear completely ignorant to the selection process. I suspect it’s just smack, but to be honest it’s not advancing your argument.

Look, we all agree Eastern deserved a seed. They didn’t deserve to be seeded above Montana. And using a SOS argument makes no sense because of your DII game. Those are excluded from any SOS computation, but weighed HEAVILY in the eyes of the committee. Want to blame an AD? Blame your own for scheduling the DII game.

We got stuck with a DII game this season when JMU backed out of the scheduled game we had with them.

Probably should have beat Weber then... :coffee:

Weber’s not a bad team. They’re probably just under a playoff worthy team this year. Yes it’s a game we clearly should have won at home but it’s nowhere near as bad a loss as some of you Griz contend.
 
eaglemachine said:
GetEm_Griz said:
Seattle Eagle said:
ClarkGrizwald said:
Dopa, your continuing diatribe of blaming Haslam makes you appear completely ignorant to the selection process. I suspect it’s just smack, but to be honest it’s not advancing your argument.

Look, we all agree Eastern deserved a seed. They didn’t deserve to be seeded above Montana. And using a SOS argument makes no sense because of your DII game. Those are excluded from any SOS computation, but weighed HEAVILY in the eyes of the committee. Want to blame an AD? Blame your own for scheduling the DII game.

We got stuck with a DII game this season when JMU backed out of the scheduled game we had with them.

Probably should have beat Weber then... :coffee:

Weber’s not a bad team. They’re probably just under a playoff worthy team this year. Yes it’s a game we clearly should have won at home but it’s nowhere near as bad a loss as some of you Griz contend.

Not a bad loss by any means. But a worse loss than any Montana, msu or Sac had, no?
 

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