Wk 3 Prediction Thread Eastern 55 Montana State 50 Eags WIN

[marceagfan5]

Wow, a lot of fans picking against their team on both boards....

Here is my take

MSU appears to be good, but also a huge unknown. Their defense last year was crap, almost as bad as ours and they really haven't played a game yet this year. Prukop is a great player but Shawn Johnson absolutely killed us last year and he is gone, so did Roderick and he is gone. They start Newell at RB and we don't struggle with backs like him, he's more of a power runner. Prukop is going to get his yards but right now, there are a lot of unknowns so my bet is we focus on shutting Prukop and the run game down, make them earn it through the air. Problem....even when we try to shut down the run we are bad at it...


EWU is going to be really hungry for a win. Banged up, yes, very much so, but we also have played tough competition to date which will give us a leg up, along with home field, in this game. I hope Kupp plays because he would torch this defense. I know MSU wants to double him all the time, but he moves around so much and plays every receiver position its almost impossible to do that. I think MSU will make us beat them with the run and drop a lot of guys into coverage, and Baldwin has proven he will take the run if the team gives it to him, see Forte last year. Wilson is probably due for a big game and he's capable of it and I think we see Webster have a couple big time plays.

Eastern is due for a win and has owned the Bobcats...

EWU - 49
MSU - 36

Roderick is not gone, although I think Baldwin is more focused on Mitch Herbert. He is our version of Cooper Kupp. Saying that Eastern has owned the Bobcats is a stretch bud. One point win last year...the year before , yes...you guys owned us, but we had two of our backfield players in casts....and MSU beat themselves the year before....I think maybe you are confusing MSU with the jizzbags further west...you have definitely owned their dark pink asses.

We've won 3 in a row, 9 of 12, and have a career 28-10 record against the cats. That's called being owned...


we also scored a touchdown on every single possession the last time the cats were in town...

My mistake on T Rod didn't see much or any of him in week 1....

Cats are a good team, not sold on the toughness until you win big games late in the year though...eags should win this one by double digits

 

[HookedonGriz]

Just my two cents....

Saw one of the Cat posters said something along the lines that their D is waaaaay better this year and anyone who watched their D against Fort Lewis would see that. This is a tactic the Cats posters have been doing for years. Tell a rival board stuff that isn't true in an effort to convince yourself that everything is rainbows and unicorns.

I watched that game.....and every Cats game last year.....and their D still has GLARING weaknesses. The majority of them said if the Cats D gave up 14 points and more than 250 yards to D2 Fort Lewis then it would be time to panic. Well that's exactly what did happen yet he claims the D is much improved. I think they are basing it all on one hit huge that their young LB Bignell made. We all know there is a lot more to D than a great hit.

Fort Lewis out up about 280 yards, about 180 of it on the ground. They hardly threw the ball at all, but when they did they were quite successful. They were 10-17 for 103 between two QBs and both their TDs were a result of passes. I thought MSU secondary looked as weak or worse than last year and that is exactly where Baldwin will exploit them. I think West and company will pick apart the secondary to the point where you might score 55 points (if Kupp is healthy).

The biggest question is do you hold them to under 55...... I say you do and win by 10. Here's to no more injuries.

Where did I say that? I said they are more aggressive and hungry this year, and some of the transfer talent is turning heads. You'll see an improvement in the Defense, how much remains to be seen. Keep your griz bullshit on ejizz.

Where did you say it.....ummmmmm how about in this very thread just a number of posts before mine. Here's it is verbatim if that makes it easier for ya........

" People saying the MSU defense is the same as last year are spewing hyperbole. They have only played one game (against a DII) and looked good (against a DII). If you paid close attention during the off season and Spring / Fall camp, you would know that this is NOT the same defense as last year. They are infinitely more aggressive and hungry, and some of these transfers are turning heads"

You're right I'm absolutely off my rocker to take that quote as you saying the cats defense is way better than last year. And I can post where I want. You see I played football and follow all of FCS as much or more than anyone I know. This is a public board. I'm posting here just as you are.....as a fan of the game and a huge fan of FCS. I just keep it real and don't live in the land of rainbows and unicorns. Sorry that hits ya hard. EWU 45-35.

 

[marceagfan5]

Eags favored by 11.5

 

[SeattleBobcat]

Just my two cents....

Saw one of the Cat posters said something along the lines that their D is waaaaay better this year and anyone who watched their D against Fort Lewis would see that. This is a tactic the Cats posters have been doing for years. Tell a rival board stuff that isn't true in an effort to convince yourself that everything is rainbows and unicorns.

I watched that game.....and every Cats game last year.....and their D still has GLARING weaknesses. The majority of them said if the Cats D gave up 14 points and more than 250 yards to D2 Fort Lewis then it would be time to panic. Well that's exactly what did happen yet he claims the D is much improved. I think they are basing it all on one hit huge that their young LB Bignell made. We all know there is a lot more to D than a great hit.

Fort Lewis out up about 280 yards, about 180 of it on the ground. They hardly threw the ball at all, but when they did they were quite successful. They were 10-17 for 103 between two QBs and both their TDs were a result of passes. I thought MSU secondary looked as weak or worse than last year and that is exactly where Baldwin will exploit them. I think West and company will pick apart the secondary to the point where you might score 55 points (if Kupp is healthy).

The biggest question is do you hold them to under 55...... I say you do and win by 10. Here's to no more injuries.

Where did I say that? I said they are more aggressive and hungry this year, and some of the transfer talent is turning heads. You'll see an improvement in the Defense, how much remains to be seen. Keep your griz bullshit on ejizz.

Where did you say it.....ummmmmm how about in this very thread just a number of posts before mine. Here's it is verbatim if that makes it easier for ya........

" People saying the MSU defense is the same as last year are spewing hyperbole. They have only played one game (against a DII) and looked good (against a DII). If you paid close attention during the off season and Spring / Fall camp, you would know that this is NOT the same defense as last year. They are infinitely more aggressive and hungry, and some of these transfers are turning heads"

You're right I'm absolutely off my rocker to take that quote as you saying the cats defense is way better than last year. And I can post where I want. You see I played football and follow all of FCS as much or more than anyone I know. This is a public board. I'm posting here just as you are.....as a fan of the game and a huge fan of FCS. I just keep it real and don't live in the land of rainbows and unicorns. Sorry that hits ya hard. EWU 45-35.

Aren't you the same guy that throws a hissy fit when opponents pick games on Egriz, yet here you are doing the same damn thing!? The hypocrisy is thick in this one.

Back on topic
I'm picking the Cats (of course), reasoning you've had our number for quite some time, last year Adams needed to lead a last sec TD drive for a W. From what I've seen EWU struggles stopping the run which should be our strength. I'm going 59-42 MSU never lets off the gas (fingers crossed).

 

[HookedonGriz]

Just my two cents....

Saw one of the Cat posters said something along the lines that their D is waaaaay better this year and anyone who watched their D against Fort Lewis would see that. This is a tactic the Cats posters have been doing for years. Tell a rival board stuff that isn't true in an effort to convince yourself that everything is rainbows and unicorns.

I watched that game.....and every Cats game last year.....and their D still has GLARING weaknesses. The majority of them said if the Cats D gave up 14 points and more than 250 yards to D2 Fort Lewis then it would be time to panic. Well that's exactly what did happen yet he claims the D is much improved. I think they are basing it all on one hit huge that their young LB Bignell made. We all know there is a lot more to D than a great hit.

Fort Lewis out up about 280 yards, about 180 of it on the ground. They hardly threw the ball at all, but when they did they were quite successful. They were 10-17 for 103 between two QBs and both their TDs were a result of passes. I thought MSU secondary looked as weak or worse than last year and that is exactly where Baldwin will exploit them. I think West and company will pick apart the secondary to the point where you might score 55 points (if Kupp is healthy).

The biggest question is do you hold them to under 55...... I say you do and win by 10. Here's to no more injuries.

Where did I say that? I said they are more aggressive and hungry this year, and some of the transfer talent is turning heads. You'll see an improvement in the Defense, how much remains to be seen. Keep your griz bullshit on ejizz.

Where did you say it.....ummmmmm how about in this very thread just a number of posts before mine. Here's it is verbatim if that makes it easier for ya........

" People saying the MSU defense is the same as last year are spewing hyperbole. They have only played one game (against a DII) and looked good (against a DII). If you paid close attention during the off season and Spring / Fall camp, you would know that this is NOT the same defense as last year. They are infinitely more aggressive and hungry, and some of these transfers are turning heads"

You're right I'm absolutely off my rocker to take that quote as you saying the cats defense is way better than last year. And I can post where I want. You see I played football and follow all of FCS as much or more than anyone I know. This is a public board. I'm posting here just as you are.....as a fan of the game and a huge fan of FCS. I just keep it real and don't live in the land of rainbows and unicorns. Sorry that hits ya hard. EWU 45-35.

Aren't you the same guy that throws a hissy fit when opponents pick games on Egriz, yet here you are doing the same damn thing!? The hypocrisy is thick in this one.

Back on topic
I'm picking the Cats (of course), reasoning you've had our number for quite some time, last year Adams needed to lead a last sec TD drive for a W. From what I've seen EWU struggles stopping the run which should be our strength. I'm going 59-42 MSU never lets off the gas (fingers crossed).

Nope sorry I'm actually a rational poster and can admit when my team is overmatched or going to struggle. For example I picked NDSU to win, but only by one score while most said we'd lose by 20. I have no problem with other posters on Griz board who actually want to talk football instead of trash.

 

[SeattleBobcat]

Just my two cents....

Saw one of the Cat posters said something along the lines that their D is waaaaay better this year and anyone who watched their D against Fort Lewis would see that. This is a tactic the Cats posters have been doing for years. Tell a rival board stuff that isn't true in an effort to convince yourself that everything is rainbows and unicorns.

I watched that game.....and every Cats game last year.....and their D still has GLARING weaknesses. The majority of them said if the Cats D gave up 14 points and more than 250 yards to D2 Fort Lewis then it would be time to panic. Well that's exactly what did happen yet he claims the D is much improved. I think they are basing it all on one hit huge that their young LB Bignell made. We all know there is a lot more to D than a great hit.

Fort Lewis out up about 280 yards, about 180 of it on the ground. They hardly threw the ball at all, but when they did they were quite successful. They were 10-17 for 103 between two QBs and both their TDs were a result of passes. I thought MSU secondary looked as weak or worse than last year and that is exactly where Baldwin will exploit them. I think West and company will pick apart the secondary to the point where you might score 55 points (if Kupp is healthy).

The biggest question is do you hold them to under 55...... I say you do and win by 10. Here's to no more injuries.

Where did I say that? I said they are more aggressive and hungry this year, and some of the transfer talent is turning heads. You'll see an improvement in the Defense, how much remains to be seen. Keep your griz bullshit on ejizz.

Where did you say it.....ummmmmm how about in this very thread just a number of posts before mine. Here's it is verbatim if that makes it easier for ya........

" People saying the MSU defense is the same as last year are spewing hyperbole. They have only played one game (against a DII) and looked good (against a DII). If you paid close attention during the off season and Spring / Fall camp, you would know that this is NOT the same defense as last year. They are infinitely more aggressive and hungry, and some of these transfers are turning heads"

You're right I'm absolutely off my rocker to take that quote as you saying the cats defense is way better than last year. And I can post where I want. You see I played football and follow all of FCS as much or more than anyone I know. This is a public board. I'm posting here just as you are.....as a fan of the game and a huge fan of FCS. I just keep it real and don't live in the land of rainbows and unicorns. Sorry that hits ya hard. EWU 45-35.

Aren't you the same guy that throws a hissy fit when opponents pick games on Egriz, yet here you are doing the same damn thing!? The hypocrisy is thick in this one.

Back on topic
I'm picking the Cats (of course), reasoning you've had our number for quite some time, last year Adams needed to lead a last sec TD drive for a W. From what I've seen EWU struggles stopping the run which should be our strength. I'm going 59-42 MSU never lets off the gas (fingers crossed).

Nope sorry I'm actually a rational poster and can admit when my team is overmatched or going to struggle. For example I picked NDSU to win, but only by one score while most said we'd lose by 20. I have no problem with other posters on Griz board who actually want to talk football instead of trash.

Perhaps I have you confused with someone else... But on Egriz I too picked UM to beat NDSU, by 4. Then picked CP to win in a nail bitter in which I was prompted ridiculed, I apologize if it wasn't you.

 

[Hambone]

EAGS 42 CATS 41

 

[HookedonGriz]

Just my two cents....

Saw one of the Cat posters said something along the lines that their D is waaaaay better this year and anyone who watched their D against Fort Lewis would see that. This is a tactic the Cats posters have been doing for years. Tell a rival board stuff that isn't true in an effort to convince yourself that everything is rainbows and unicorns.

I watched that game.....and every Cats game last year.....and their D still has GLARING weaknesses. The majority of them said if the Cats D gave up 14 points and more than 250 yards to D2 Fort Lewis then it would be time to panic. Well that's exactly what did happen yet he claims the D is much improved. I think they are basing it all on one hit huge that their young LB Bignell made. We all know there is a lot more to D than a great hit.

Fort Lewis out up about 280 yards, about 180 of it on the ground. They hardly threw the ball at all, but when they did they were quite successful. They were 10-17 for 103 between two QBs and both their TDs were a result of passes. I thought MSU secondary looked as weak or worse than last year and that is exactly where Baldwin will exploit them. I think West and company will pick apart the secondary to the point where you might score 55 points (if Kupp is healthy).

The biggest question is do you hold them to under 55...... I say you do and win by 10. Here's to no more injuries.

Where did I say that? I said they are more aggressive and hungry this year, and some of the transfer talent is turning heads. You'll see an improvement in the Defense, how much remains to be seen. Keep your griz bullshit on ejizz.

Where did you say it.....ummmmmm how about in this very thread just a number of posts before mine. Here's it is verbatim if that makes it easier for ya........

" People saying the MSU defense is the same as last year are spewing hyperbole. They have only played one game (against a DII) and looked good (against a DII). If you paid close attention during the off season and Spring / Fall camp, you would know that this is NOT the same defense as last year. They are infinitely more aggressive and hungry, and some of these transfers are turning heads"

You're right I'm absolutely off my rocker to take that quote as you saying the cats defense is way better than last year. And I can post where I want. You see I played football and follow all of FCS as much or more than anyone I know. This is a public board. I'm posting here just as you are.....as a fan of the game and a huge fan of FCS. I just keep it real and don't live in the land of rainbows and unicorns. Sorry that hits ya hard. EWU 45-35.

Aren't you the same guy that throws a hissy fit when opponents pick games on Egriz, yet here you are doing the same damn thing!? The hypocrisy is thick in this one.

Back on topic
I'm picking the Cats (of course), reasoning you've had our number for quite some time, last year Adams needed to lead a last sec TD drive for a W. From what I've seen EWU struggles stopping the run which should be our strength. I'm going 59-42 MSU never lets off the gas (fingers crossed).

Nope sorry I'm actually a rational poster and can admit when my team is overmatched or going to struggle. For example I picked NDSU to win, but only by one score while most said we'd lose by 20. I have no problem with other posters on Griz board who actually want to talk football instead of trash.

Perhaps I have you confused with someone else... But on Egriz I too picked UM to beat NDSU, by 4. Then picked CP to win in a nail bitter in which I was prompted ridiculed, I apologize if it wasn't you.

Sounds like you have enough football knowledge to make good picks and I can appreciate that. Definitely wasn't me gave you crap I was also on the edge with Cal Poly. It's all good Seattle. Good luck to both teams always a fun Big Sky game

 

[Seattle Eagle]

We can't seem to run the ball, stop the run, or stop committing penalties at crucial times. The team seemed very sluggish during large parts of the game against UNI, and everyone is aware of all the injuries. However, I am hoping a week of practice and playing at home will give us the boost we need. The team needs to come out and make a statement in this game, and I think they will. Prediction: Eastern 38 MSU 34

 

[SeattleBobcat]

Just my two cents....

Saw one of the Cat posters said something along the lines that their D is waaaaay better this year and anyone who watched their D against Fort Lewis would see that. This is a tactic the Cats posters have been doing for years. Tell a rival board stuff that isn't true in an effort to convince yourself that everything is rainbows and unicorns.

I watched that game.....and every Cats game last year.....and their D still has GLARING weaknesses. The majority of them said if the Cats D gave up 14 points and more than 250 yards to D2 Fort Lewis then it would be time to panic. Well that's exactly what did happen yet he claims the D is much improved. I think they are basing it all on one hit huge that their young LB Bignell made. We all know there is a lot more to D than a great hit.

Fort Lewis out up about 280 yards, about 180 of it on the ground. They hardly threw the ball at all, but when they did they were quite successful. They were 10-17 for 103 between two QBs and both their TDs were a result of passes. I thought MSU secondary looked as weak or worse than last year and that is exactly where Baldwin will exploit them. I think West and company will pick apart the secondary to the point where you might score 55 points (if Kupp is healthy).

The biggest question is do you hold them to under 55...... I say you do and win by 10. Here's to no more injuries.

Where did I say that? I said they are more aggressive and hungry this year, and some of the transfer talent is turning heads. You'll see an improvement in the Defense, how much remains to be seen. Keep your griz bullshit on ejizz.

Where did you say it.....ummmmmm how about in this very thread just a number of posts before mine. Here's it is verbatim if that makes it easier for ya........

" People saying the MSU defense is the same as last year are spewing hyperbole. They have only played one game (against a DII) and looked good (against a DII). If you paid close attention during the off season and Spring / Fall camp, you would know that this is NOT the same defense as last year. They are infinitely more aggressive and hungry, and some of these transfers are turning heads"

You're right I'm absolutely off my rocker to take that quote as you saying the cats defense is way better than last year. And I can post where I want. You see I played football and follow all of FCS as much or more than anyone I know. This is a public board. I'm posting here just as you are.....as a fan of the game and a huge fan of FCS. I just keep it real and don't live in the land of rainbows and unicorns. Sorry that hits ya hard. EWU 45-35.

Aren't you the same guy that throws a hissy fit when opponents pick games on Egriz, yet here you are doing the same damn thing!? The hypocrisy is thick in this one.

Back on topic
I'm picking the Cats (of course), reasoning you've had our number for quite some time, last year Adams needed to lead a last sec TD drive for a W. From what I've seen EWU struggles stopping the run which should be our strength. I'm going 59-42 MSU never lets off the gas (fingers crossed).

Nope sorry I'm actually a rational poster and can admit when my team is overmatched or going to struggle. For example I picked NDSU to win, but only by one score while most said we'd lose by 20. I have no problem with other posters on Griz board who actually want to talk football instead of trash.

Perhaps I have you confused with someone else... But on Egriz I too picked UM to beat NDSU, by 4. Then picked CP to win in a nail bitter in which I was prompted ridiculed, I apologize if it wasn't you.

Sounds like you have enough football knowledge to make good picks and I can appreciate that. Definitely wasn't me gave you crap I was also on the edge with Cal Poly. It's all good Seattle. Good luck to both teams always a fun Big Sky game

You too, HookedonGriz. GL with Liberty, I think you guys are better but that's a long ways to travel.

 

[luckyintheorder]

SeattleBobcat and hookedongriz:
Sounds like you have enough football knowledge to make good picks and I can appreciate that. Definitely wasn't me gave you crap I was also on the edge with Cal Poly. It's all good Seattle. Good luck to both teams always a fun Big Sky game


You too, HookedonGriz. GL with Liberty, I think you guys are better but that's a long ways to travel.

Thanks for adding to the majesty that is fan debate gentlemen. We like to bring people together on this board

 

[HookedonGriz]

SeattleBobcat and hookedongriz:
Sounds like you have enough football knowledge to make good picks and I can appreciate that. Definitely wasn't me gave you crap I was also on the edge with Cal Poly. It's all good Seattle. Good luck to both teams always a fun Big Sky game


You too, HookedonGriz. GL with Liberty, I think you guys are better but that's a long ways to travel.

Thanks for adding to the majesty that is fan debate gentlemen. We like to bring people together on this board

All we need is love.....errrrr....football right! Football rules!

 

[celticcat]

MSU has an interesting dynamic coming into this game. This is the 3rd week of the season (not counting the UM NDSU "week"), and the Cats have only played one game, a DII, over 2 weeks ago as it was a Thursday game. We've basically had a 2nd fall camp.

The Cats actually took less practice time than allotted during their fall camp, to allow for extra practices during the 2 week long bye. I attribute that to part of the slow start against Ft. Lewis.

Count me as one of the few Cat posters who thinks losing Shawn Johnson is a big deal. The consensus on him on BN has always been mixed. Many thought he wasn't a heady player, especially on punt returns, and that he danced around way too much. I don't think Cat posters realize just how special he was, he was a gamebreaker which you don't find often at RB at this level. He could catch very well out of the backfield, take any kick, punt or kickoff, to the house. Most people seem to think #27 Brekke can replace him without missing a beat, but in my opinion a guy like Johnson is a one in a decade player. Brekke can be a great back, he is fast, but to me he doesn't have that extra gear and burst Johnson had, even though Brekke could probably run toe to toe with Johnson on the track.

That being said, that is the only thing on the offense that "concerns" me, even though I wouldn't go so far as to say it is a concern. We should be better in every position across the board on offense. The reason you didn't see Roderick against Ft. Lewis is basically he is a non-factor in his senior year. Montana Gatorade Player of the Year in Basketball and Football, got a QB scholarship to Nevada, transferred back home after Ault left, got moved to receiver, and has shown flashes but has been super streaky. Let's put it this way, we are taking 8 WRs to Cheney and Roderick likely won't be one. Many feel he has just given up.

The defense played with more fire and intensity vs Ft. Lewis, but that doesn't mean they are better. But they are certainly more aggressive and I liked how they swarmed to the ball. Our secondary and DL are our weakest links, even though we have some decent experience in the secondary, two are first year transfers, and there isn't much depth. Our DL looked to improve on paper in the offseason with some nice additions, it did not translate against Ft. Lewis. But we have some transfers who were cleared late who are getting up to speed. Honestly the 2+ week break between games is the best thing for the defense who missed tons of assignments week 1. I look for improve in this game, but at this point it is baby steps, we were horrid last year.

If MSU can run the ball and EWU can't, I like MSU's chances. Otherwise I think EWU comes away with a win, possibly a comfortable win.

 

[nwray1]

Eagles win 34-30. The long victorious march through the Big Sky (yes, I know it's nonconference!) begins Saturday.

 

[Hodor]

So many injuries to start the year and losing Kupp is probably the biggest. Still, I think the Eags will come out with some fire in their bellies and win this game. Eagles - 40, Bobcats 34

 

[luckyintheorder]

GAME DAY!!!!! Any changes of heart? No real new information. I like the move of Neary to right tackle and we have plenty of interior linemen who can do a good job. Senior leadership shows today! Expect MSU to attack off the edge and expect EWU to counter with RB and TE/Hback blockers to give West time to work through the progressions. Does Malcolm Williams have a break out day? Would love to see the freshman go for 100 yds and a couple of TD's. The Eags can beat any team on the edges, look for swing pass, bubble and flair to stretch the field and give us numbers to run the ball inside the tackles and create seams up the hashes for the big plays. Eags make it four in a row today!

 

[Eaglefanatical]

With Kupp, Hill, and Hennessey I think our offense is good enough to keep up with MSU. Without them, our offense isn't potent enough to keep up and we all know our defense isn't stopping anyone.

MSU 52-31

 

[EWURanger]

The only thing I am certain of with this game is that whatever prediction I make is going to be totally wrong, so I won't make one. Plus I am superstitious. I do know that our defense will need to play significantly better than it did in games 1 and 2 to have a shot, as will our offensive line. Should be a fun one, Go Eags.

 

[Seattle Eagle]

With Kupp, Hill, and Hennessey I think our offense is good enough to keep up with MSU. Without them, our offense isn't potent enough to keep up and we all know our defense isn't stopping anyone.

MSU 52-31

Sorry to burst your negativity bubble, but I don't think we're going to lose by 21 points at home regardless of who we might be playing. This game shouldn't be decided by more than 10 to 14 points either way.

 

[Seattle Eagle]

The only thing I am certain of with this game is that whatever prediction I make is going to be totally wrong, so I won't make one. Plus I am superstitious. I do know that our defense will need to play significantly better than it did in games 1 and 2 to have a shot, as will our offensive line. Should be a fun one, Go Eags.

Really went out on a limb there.