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Wulff Fired
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FrontFive4Life
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vetteman said:
Nope. The most glaring reason is that I just don't see WSU going from one former EWU coach to another after the lack of wins that PW had down there. I think coach B is more than capable of taking the reins at a larger school and who knows, with the large amount of FBS openings available (WSU, UCLA, ASU, Kansas, Illinois....the list goes on) anything can happen. If we would have made another playoff run this year, it would have helped his case as a potential hire. Hopefully we can keep coach B around for a few more years because he has done GREAT things for Eagle football! :twocents:
Screamin_Eagle174
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FrontFive4Life said:
This.
I was hoping they'd keep him around one more year. Damn. :lol: Although I suppose that does bode well for us, as teams transitioning to a new coaching staff tend to struggle with cohesion and learning new schemes. Just look at us in 2008. And Montana last year. Both of those teams were already winners. WSU is poor to mediocre at best.
I don't think anyone will be going after Coach Baldwin after this season, but I'm sure his stock is rising to the point where someone will eventually swoop in and pick him up. I'd suspect WSU is highly suspicious of anyone from Eastern at this point... although I suspect McElwain is the top choice, maybe even Chistensen (both former EWU guys) if they can't get the first choice in Mike Leach.
The good news is Eastern has always had great coaching stock to choose from. If something were to happen after next season, and it might if Baldwin doesn't get a deserved pay increase, perhaps the guy from Humboldt? He's done a great job down there. Maybe the OC from Oregon if he could make enough.
The good news is Eastern has always had great coaching stock to choose from. If something were to happen after next season, and it might if Baldwin doesn't get a deserved pay increase, perhaps the guy from Humboldt? He's done a great job down there. Maybe the OC from Oregon if he could make enough.
FrontFive4Life
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kalm said:
Hmm, totally forgot about that opening. I could see it happening. Wulff will land somewhere, either a FCS (most likely) or a mid level FBS.
I wonder what Moos knew on Tuesday that he didn't know on Sunday? Why drag it out like he did? It is common knowledge that Floyd wanted to let Paul go last year so was Moos' conscience telling him one thing and his boss saying another? Does not appear Moos is the type that sticks up for his staff.
If Floyd is a football expert, where was he when the wheels were falling off the program 5, 6 years ago?
As you can tell I think Paul deserved one more year.
But this may be a good thing for Eastern. There may be players that feel like their coach got the shaft and want to leave the program without sacrificing a year of eligibility. We are in need of a couple of coaches, maybe there is opportunity to pick up a Pac 12 guy (if he is willing to work for peanuts).
Enough ranking,
Go Eagles
If Floyd is a football expert, where was he when the wheels were falling off the program 5, 6 years ago?
As you can tell I think Paul deserved one more year.
But this may be a good thing for Eastern. There may be players that feel like their coach got the shaft and want to leave the program without sacrificing a year of eligibility. We are in need of a couple of coaches, maybe there is opportunity to pick up a Pac 12 guy (if he is willing to work for peanuts).
Enough ranking,
Go Eagles
FrontFive4Life
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clawman said:
Yuuuuuuuuuuuup. Also, some key donors were vocal about their desire for a change in leadership and when you're getting ready to break ground on a new $80 million facility, those desires can be persuasive. As they say, money talks. FWIW, from a football-only standpoint, I would have let PW finish out his current contract with a 2 year extension with no buyout clause.
marceagfan5
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Pullman is a tough job, tough to compete and recruit in the Pac 12 in Pullman. I am sure Wulff will find a coaching position somewhere, I think he is a good coach.
Anyone else hear the rumors about Coach Baldwin being considered for Weber State job? I can't imagine this is true and maybe it was just posted by Weber AD that he would like Coach B (wishful thinking), but does anyone know anything about this?
Anyone else hear the rumors about Coach Baldwin being considered for Weber State job? I can't imagine this is true and maybe it was just posted by Weber AD that he would like Coach B (wishful thinking), but does anyone know anything about this?
I think it was just the Weber AD saying he'd like him to interview. That doesn't mean he is. In all seriously, I'd be really surprised to see Baldwin at Weber State, or any other Big Sky school. First off, he, and his staff, are mostly all Washingtonians with deeply roots to the Pacific Northwest. I would be very surprised to see them leave those connections and recruiting base for someplace like Ogden, Utah. Not to mention everything that's being built in reference to the program, the Championship season last year, etc. I think a school like Weber State would have to pay CONSIDERABLY more than EWU is willing to pay for them to even consider entertaining the thought - unless the staff is just really unhappy, in which that wouldn't be the case. But I don't think that's the scenario brewing. And that's not a knock on Weber State - I just think that if and when Baldwin and staff depart, it will be to a much higher profile program than any in the Big Sky.
In all seriousness, I think Weber should take a look at Coach Wulff.....assuming he'd be interested. He's a good coach with a good track record of winning in the Big Sky Conference. Then again, some of the same questions would arise there - can Wulff recruit outside the Pacific Northwest?
In all seriousness, I think Weber should take a look at Coach Wulff.....assuming he'd be interested. He's a good coach with a good track record of winning in the Big Sky Conference. Then again, some of the same questions would arise there - can Wulff recruit outside the Pacific Northwest?
I'll only add this, and that's that Eastern admin should be on their toes as it relates to Baldwin. He didn't get a pay increase after winning a national championship, and now our b-ball coach makes the same amount. At the very least, pay the tested guy more and the untested guy less.
I'd be shocked to see Baldwin leave for a program like Weber... but Eastern should clean their yard to make sure they are as attractive as possible for Baldwin to stay while giving him the best shot at success on the field--- not making his life more difficult with stupid scheduling snafus.
I'd be shocked to see Baldwin leave for a program like Weber... but Eastern should clean their yard to make sure they are as attractive as possible for Baldwin to stay while giving him the best shot at success on the field--- not making his life more difficult with stupid scheduling snafus.
marceagfan5
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I think Coach Baldwin makes $100K and that is one of the lowest, if not the lowest salary in the conference (UNC coach may make less).
Eastern does need to step up to the plate and make sure we keep Baldwin around while we can, obviously if he keeps winning like he has, the FBS schools will come calling and there is nothing we can do about that.
I do not see Coach B going to Weber though, I just don't see how that is a better move, I think the AD was just talking about his wish/dream list.
Eastern does need to step up to the plate and make sure we keep Baldwin around while we can, obviously if he keeps winning like he has, the FBS schools will come calling and there is nothing we can do about that.
I do not see Coach B going to Weber though, I just don't see how that is a better move, I think the AD was just talking about his wish/dream list.
I do not know how the statewide freeze on salaries affects the potential for pay raise. Where Eastern needs to get to is enough monies in EAA to supplement salaries. That is how the Huskies are able to pay Sark 3mil/year.marceagfan5 said:
Money is the lifeblood of any athletic program, the more money the more success (wins).
marceagfan5
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This is from Webers board:
"Baldwin did inquire about the Weber job and did apply. After winning the national championship, Eastern did not offer him a contract extension, bonus or anything else. They acted like it was just another win on the schedule. Since applying for the Weber job, the AD at Eastern did sweeten the pot - so to say - for Baldwin to stay. He has since removed his name from consideration for the Weber State job. Sorry, I won't reveal my source, but I know that the above info is accurate."
Glad to see he took his name out and Eastern stepped up to the plate (if what is quoted above is actually true)
"Baldwin did inquire about the Weber job and did apply. After winning the national championship, Eastern did not offer him a contract extension, bonus or anything else. They acted like it was just another win on the schedule. Since applying for the Weber job, the AD at Eastern did sweeten the pot - so to say - for Baldwin to stay. He has since removed his name from consideration for the Weber State job. Sorry, I won't reveal my source, but I know that the above info is accurate."
Glad to see he took his name out and Eastern stepped up to the plate (if what is quoted above is actually true)
People might be surprised to know that the base salaries at both UM and MSU are pretty close to the 100k or so base salary at EWU.
Anyway, EWU needs to do whatever they can to try to retain the current staff for as long as they can. That includes any incentives they can provide. They're proven winners with deep connection to the Pacific Northwest and if they care about the program as much as say they do they will do just that.
Personally I'd be extremely infuriated with the athletic department if we lost our HC to another Big Sky program if they hadn't done everything they could to keep him at EWU where he belongs. I read on the Weber board that the staff was not offered a contract extension after 2010. Is that a joke? Am I missing something somewhere?
Anyway, EWU needs to do whatever they can to try to retain the current staff for as long as they can. That includes any incentives they can provide. They're proven winners with deep connection to the Pacific Northwest and if they care about the program as much as say they do they will do just that.
Personally I'd be extremely infuriated with the athletic department if we lost our HC to another Big Sky program if they hadn't done everything they could to keep him at EWU where he belongs. I read on the Weber board that the staff was not offered a contract extension after 2010. Is that a joke? Am I missing something somewhere?
I think the contract entension is meaningless... Eastern is NOT going to move a different direction. What they should have done is added to his base pay and incentive pay. I think it rankled a lot feathers when Hayford was brought on at the same pay rate as Baldwin. I'm not knocking Hayford--- he's looking like a great fit-- but c'mon, Baldwin was coming off a National Championship.
And no, I don't think EAA funds should be used as compensation for a coach. I think the University needs to geto ff their ass and spend some money. This is the same school that found money for a $22m hockey arena despite not having and not having plans for an intercollegiate hockey team. Eastern DOES HAVE the money, they just spend it differently.
And that is also why I get so pissed about selling our schedule to the highest bidder. Is $50k really impacting our bottom line in a life-and-death way? And if it is, shouldn't that be thrown at the feet of the President?
And no, I don't think EAA funds should be used as compensation for a coach. I think the University needs to geto ff their ass and spend some money. This is the same school that found money for a $22m hockey arena despite not having and not having plans for an intercollegiate hockey team. Eastern DOES HAVE the money, they just spend it differently.
And that is also why I get so pissed about selling our schedule to the highest bidder. Is $50k really impacting our bottom line in a life-and-death way? And if it is, shouldn't that be thrown at the feet of the President?
marceagfan5
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The griz coach makes $155k base with close to a $40K media contract of some sort and a lot of incentives for winning and the playoffs.
The MSU coach makes $130k ish and also has close to a $40k media/social relations contract with incentives.
Base salaries are fairly similar for Big Sky coaches I guess, but the incentives per school are a lot different for winning records, playoff wins, and national championships.
The MSU coach makes $130k ish and also has close to a $40k media/social relations contract with incentives.
Base salaries are fairly similar for Big Sky coaches I guess, but the incentives per school are a lot different for winning records, playoff wins, and national championships.
