SochorField
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Every perennially successful team in the Big Sky is a losing streak away from being average these days.
I don't disagree with any of this. But it is a fact that it didn't translate well when he was at an actual FBS school. Even a power 5 school like Cal. Cal is the best public school in the world and has a ton of rich alumni. Yet his offenses always ranked near the bottom of the Pac. I don't know if it was cause of Justin Wilcox or P5 defenses adapting to his schemes or what. But his time at Cal and Arizona State did not go well.I beg to differ EWU tang clan, Under Baldwin EWU did more with less resources, less academic reputation . less alumni support etc. He did a superior job and attracted a lot of good assistant coaches along the way. He slapped around the top tier big sky schools while having this disadvantage. very hard to do. His superior coaching overcame a lot of obstacles.
Yea I don't know what happened but his offenses at Cal and ASU sucked. Maybe he would have been better as a head coach at a G5 school.Baldwin had some unbelievable staffs at Eastern. I really think if he could have found an FBS job and brought most of them with him he would have been fine. The Baldwin Eastern teams gave Pac 12 teams fits in nonconference games. I really don't see why Illinois picked Hauck.
I don't think that's why Shoemaker left Eastern. There was a pretty significant dispute, but I don't think it had anything to do with misconduct on anyone's part. I think we lost the plot by not getting the guy from Central.He does seem like a Baldwin clone. They even kind of look alike. The player I worked with said he left cause of some misconduct it something.
I worked with Anthany Smith and he said it had something to do with misconduct and he played from 2018 to 2022 while Shoemaker was there. I don't have any reason to not believe him. There was probably some disputes too with Best and play calling philosophies too though.I don't think that's why Shoemaker left Eastern. There was a pretty significant dispute, but I don't think it had anything to do with misconduct on anyone's part. I think we lost the plot by not getting the guy from Central.
The way modern football is, you need to hire a guy from D2 (or similar) that is highly successful and has ties to the area. You gotta get somebody who's able to bring talent with him... maybe 10-15 players who want the opportunity. Eastern drastically needs to onboard some players... there just isn't enough talent capable of winning games on the roster right now.
This is why I don't think Baldwin fits anymore. The baggage he brings along with him is also an issue. I really like Coach Baldwin, but there are just too many risks and too few benefits.