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Re: Sears Fired

Post by just a sac state fan » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:21 pm

Just the facts. Socialism works good in China. I wish I can feel the same about Orr in two years like everybody else does. Cross my fingers

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Re: Sears Fired

Post by OldSchoolHornet » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:37 pm

GAS...not a conspiracy theory...that is EXACTLY why Orr is here. Without question the biggest upside to his hiring is that he feels the need to bring this football program to a respectable level so he can use that success to move on up the food chain. I can't imagine anyone will have a problem with that if/when he makes that happen. Everybody wins.
I do not know Coach Collins and I have no knowledge regarding the Charlotte situation, so I have no opinion on those views. I agree with absolutely everything else you stated.
Thank you.

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Re: Sears Fired

Post by D. Anthony » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:05 pm

One name I haven't heard mentioned is former Hornet Darren Arbet. He's turned Cabrillo College around after a wildly successful run in the Arena Football League. I think Taylor is a great idea but more than likely trending upward at the FBS level.

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Re: Sears Fired

Post by SDHornet » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:42 pm

Good post GAS. I wouldn't call Orr wanting his guy as HC a conspiracy theory. It's pretty typical for ADs looking to implement their plan/vision wanting to do so with their guy. It would also have been a bad look had he not resigned Sears following the 2017 season which garnered the most BSC wins (and COTY for Sears) in program history. The fact that Orr set things up so he could make a change immediately if things went back to dumpster fire status tells us Orr never had Sears in his long term plans. That's fine, he's in charge so that's his call, and in this case it's the right move.

It's anybody's guess what Orr's long term career goals are, but I agree that he doesn't get there if he can't make a mark while at Sac State. The only way he can make a mark is bringing in a HC that can have sustained success at FB. The other way is by playing a large part in getting an events center built and having a successful MBB program emerge. It should also be noted that Nelsen is also looking to build his legacy here as well, and Nelsen would not have hired an AD with contradicting long term goals.

As far as the next HC, not sure a JC guy helps Nelsen/Orr make their mark. We tried a JC guy already. No thanks on going that route again. And if Nelsen was fine with the JC approach, then Macriss would have never been ousted as AD as he is on record as stating Sac State as being a place that would ideally gets its coaches from the local JC ranks. The JC approach conflicts with actions and decisions already made at the highest level so I'm not buying that mindset.

Assuming there would be limited interest in the Hornet HC position is small minded and short sighted, but I would think there are plenty of coaches that would be interested in a D1 HC position both regionally and nationally. There will only be so many open D1 HC positions in any given year, and yes I agree that we will not out spend a top G5 or P5 position (HC or coordinator). That doesn't mean there aren't any qualified coaches interested that would fit Orr's vision.
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Re: Sears Fired

Post by Kadeezy » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:45 am

Panthers just fired D Line coach Brady Hoke. Buy low! Lol
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Re: Sears Fired

Post by GreenArmySwarm » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:30 am

Appreciate it everyone...

...and if the interview from Orr is accurate, we should know who our next Head Football Coach (aka, our future happiness) is in a few days here! :D

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Re: Sears Fired

Post by Super Hornet » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:16 pm

Just saw this State Hornet Q&A with Sears. Pretty revealing, though I was disappointed that they actually had the brass to ask him if he "deserved" to be fired. That's a pretty unfair question, in my book....

https://statehornet.com/2018/11/whats-n ... ody-sears/

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Re: Sears Fired

Post by OldSchoolHornet » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:28 am

Three ex-Hornets interviewed yesterday.

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Re: Sears Fired

Post by ChiCity » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:57 am

OldSchoolHornet wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:28 am
Three ex-Hornets interviewed yesterday.
Do we have any idea what the school is offering in compensation for the head coach position and the assistant pool?

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Re: Sears Fired

Post by Green Laser » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:16 pm

No excuses or experiments this time. There is a lot of returning talent, time to produce from day 1!

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Re: Sears Fired

Post by Kadeezy » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:49 pm

Arbet, Osterhout, and McClure?
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Re: Sears Fired

Post by Green Laser » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:25 pm

Kadeezy wrote:
Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:49 pm
Arbet, Osterhout, and McClure?
Orr said that he wanted a coach named by 12/19. If they are on schedule at least the three finalists should be announced this week.

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Re: Sears Fired

Post by OldSchoolHornet » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:34 am

Yes.

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Re: Sears Fired

Post by Kadeezy » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:51 am

OldSchoolHornet wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:34 am
Yes.
To me? GL? Or Both?

Likelihood of selection in my uneducated opinion:

1. Osterhout - salary is in range, nationally JC power...
2. Arbet - would Arena success transfer over? Obvious leader.
3. McClure - undoubtedly everyone’s #1, but will be sacrifice salary for the Big Chair, and a chance to coach his son for 3-4 years, near home?
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Re: Sears Fired

Post by ChiCity » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:59 am

Kadeezy wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:51 am
OldSchoolHornet wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:34 am
Yes.
To me? GL? Or Both?

Likelihood of selection in my uneducated opinion:

1. Osterhout - salary is in range, nationally JC power...
2. Arbet - would Arena success transfer over? Obvious leader.
3. McClure - undoubtedly everyone’s #1, but will be sacrifice salary for the Big Chair, and a chance to coach his son for 3-4 years, near home?
McClure might not have to sacrafice any salary. According to MWC information, he made around $200K last year. I've heard that SAC may be offering close to $300K for the head coach job.

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Re: Sears Fired

Post by Kadeezy » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:38 am

ChiCity wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:59 am
Kadeezy wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:51 am
OldSchoolHornet wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:34 am
Yes.
To me? GL? Or Both?

Likelihood of selection in my uneducated opinion:

1. Osterhout - salary is in range, nationally JC power...
2. Arbet - would Arena success transfer over? Obvious leader.
3. McClure - undoubtedly everyone’s #1, but will be sacrifice salary for the Big Chair, and a chance to coach his son for 3-4 years, near home?
McClure might not have to sacrafice any salary. According to MWC information, he made around $200K last year. I've heard that SAC may be offering close to $300K for the head coach job.
Wow, had no idea.

For folks in the know, if McClure is named HC, any chance that Osterhout considers an OC/Asst. HC role? Wondering about the relationship between the two, and if the Sperbeck- era hard feelings are gone for Johnny O, kinda worked out for him though....
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Re: Sears Fired

Post by OldSchoolHornet » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:59 am

I was mistaken...McClure did not interview last Friday but it is supposed to happen this week. Today?

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Re: Sears Fired

Post by OldSchoolHornet » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:45 am

Today could be a big day.

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Re: Sears Fired

Post by Kadeezy » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:40 pm

I’m seeing some vague reactions online from coaches that might lead you to believe the remaining staff have been notified of the selected head coach....0
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Re: Sears Fired

Post by BuckeyeHornetFan » Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:26 am

Kadeezy wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:40 pm
I’m seeing some vague reactions online from coaches that might lead you to believe the remaining staff have been notified of the selected head coach....0
Any guesses as to whom it might be?

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