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2014 WSU Head Coach?

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wsucatfan

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Assuming WSU fails to reach the 4 win total this season who do you want WSU to hire as the next coach? Personally I see Sears as a good guy, just like USU had when they hired Brent Guy. I don't haven't seen anything since the 1st week to give me any hope that WSU is capable of turning this season around.
 
Derrick Odum, From SMU... Has a solid history as a coach, played at Utah and coached at Utah, Supposedly can't wait to get back to Utah, loves it. Young and knows how to recruit, solid track record recruiting. Understands what the defense needs to do to win and how the offense should be to attack and win. i mean, just look at his bio from SMU football, he has produced a lot of great talent!
 
oldrunner said:
Give him another two years before you try to throw him under the bus. :roll:
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Another two years? I hope you're kidding. Most of us knew after one year that he wasn't any good. Why would anyone give him two more years?
 
N.OgdenCat said:
Wow a poll like this is a really bad sign for the program. Ugh...how did we get to this point?
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Agreed. I don't really know how I feel about Sears. Obviously, something isn't right and changes need to be made. But what changes? Has he been given enough time or a fair shake after inheriting the Mac retirement/John. L. Smith disaster? Or has he already proven we need to move on? It's hard to say and I don't think there's one correct answer. All I know is that just a few years ago, we won a friggin Big Sky title and were in the FCS playoff hunt almost every year after. When Mac retired, he said he got us to a good spot and we needed someone to take WSU to the next level. Unfortunately, the opposite has happened and through a strange series of unfortunate events, we have taken five steps back. All the way back to the 2004 1-win season. :cry:
 
I'm asking because I really don't know, but how does John L, who I assume is "Satin" gets so much blame for where this program is now, when he was only here for 5 months and never coached a game? Reading through the board, it sounds as though John L got rid some of Mac's players unnecessarily, and maybe recruited some "questionable" character kids.

But isn't the state of this program more on the current regime, than the past? I didn't watch WSU last year, but looking through the stats, we certainly seem to be a lot worst. But I assume there are still some kids from Mac's recruiting classes, one from John L, and one from Sears. Sears definitely seems to be tied to his guys (no surprise), but the funny thing is he's not putting those guys situations where they can excel. Looking back through the high school highlights of the offensive freshman he brought in, they are very explosive and dynamic. I know it's a difference between high school and college, but where is this dynamic offense we were promised?

I don't know if Sears is the guy or not, but some things I noticed this pass weekend:
- He doesn't seem to be very engaged during the game, he doesn't where a headset that I noticed, and he never knows what to say, and his timing is off more than its on.
- After getting a close look at the players this weekend, one thing I noticed is they are not very physically fit. What I mean is they don't really look like football players. This may sound kind of funny, but I specifically looked for this after I saw the Football spring conditioning video on YouTube - not very impressing at all.

So, with all that said, I can't comment on the poll, but I will say if there are no adjustments made moving forward, then that means the coaches have no answers. If they have no answers then we need to find someone who does, but I don't know who that is.
 
here is what happened. mac was no longer the coach in december of 2011. john L was hired shortly there after. it was a happy day. 4-5 months later we are into spring practicing. john L leaves for arkansas. ark paid him 850k for the lone season with potential to earn a contract. wsu signed him to 200k per yr for 4 yrs. so he elected to leave as probaly most might, why wouldnt he?

getting into may with no head coach is not a good thing in college football nor it it a time for a college to start thinking about hiring a coach. who can you hire? all of mac's staff was gone mostly, all of john L's stafff are all new to weber. we had to promote one of them.

now as far as recruiting, that might have been a big hurt for weber. you had mac's prospects and then john L's prospects I have no clue how that all went down. did we get screwed because of al lthis coaching change? probalby. but my point is, 3 diff coaches in a short span is a bad thing.

it would have been 4 diff head coaches in 1 yr or less at weber state had weber not hired sears to his multi yr deal last yr. prior to mac/johnL/sears, it was a span of 22 yrs to hire 3 diff head coaches. 1989-2011 - arslanian/graybeal/mac.

arslanian: 11 yrs
graybeal: 7 yrs
mac: 7 yrs
johnL: 5 minutes
sears: 2nd season and counting
 
wsucatfan said:
Assuming WSU fails to reach the 4 win total this season who do you want WSU to hire as the next coach? Personally I see Sears as a good guy, just like USU had when they hired Brent Guy. I don't haven't seen anything since the 1st week to give me any hope that WSU is capable of turning this season around.
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if he doesnt win 4 games it appears he can remain head coach according to the contract. they just could easily hire a new coach if need be. is that correct?
 
N.OgdenCat said:
Wow a poll like this is a really bad sign for the program. Ugh...how did we get to this point?
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Maybe October was a bit premature, but the writing was on the wall by then.
 
McBride did a great job bringing Weber State Football out of the cellar. I think this was due in part to his hiring of quality assistants and coordinators. The team peaked in 2008 with Kevin McGiven as Offensive Coordinator and Kevin Clune as Defensive Coordinator. Both are now at Utah State. These are two guys who have first-hand experience in building up the Weber program and, interestingly, Weber's success gradually declined after they both left. I think either would be an excellent candidate.
 
wildcat2014 said:
McBride did a great job bringing Weber State Football out of the cellar. I think this was due in part to his hiring of quality assistants and coordinators. The team peaked in 2008 with Kevin McGiven as Offensive Coordinator and Kevin Clune as Defensive Coordinator. Both are now at Utah State. These are two guys who have first-hand experience in building up the Weber program and, interestingly, Weber's success gradually declined after they both left. I think either would be an excellent candidate.
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Bovee said he hopes to move quickly to replace Sears.

"We're going to be very methodical about it, we're going to make the right decision and we're going to look at what our options are," he said. "Obviously, we need to expedite it because every day we don't have a coach on board here you lose a day of recruiting. As soon as possible, but we're not going to go so quick that we don't make good decisions."

Bovee expects to see significant interest in the job opening. Any members of the current staff who are interested in applying may do so, he said.

"I do know it's a good place and there's a lot of potential here. We have the right resources and the right facilities to be successful, so I anticipate there will be interest."
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http://www.standard.net/stories/2013/11/26/wsu-football-coach-jody-sears-fired
 
According to coachingsearch.com:

"Don't be surprised if former Idaho head coach Robb Akey emerges as a candidate for the Weber State job."

http://coachingsearch.com/coaching-search-ticker

He is an alum and has head coaching experience but posted a 20-50 record with the Vandals. Idaho certainly isn't the easiest place to win games but I would have to imagine there are more promising candidates out there.
 
Who ever is spewing that kind of crap, about Akey being a candidate, hasn't got a clue about his history with WSU. It ain't going to happen, unless everybody he crapped on is suddenly dead. That would be worse than John L coming back, or at least on par with it. :rofl:
 
This article implies that WSU did not seriously consider Dave Peck for a coaching position in the past. I can tell you that is the farthest thing from the truth. Al candidates are seriously considered.

The article goes on to imply that WSU is not winning championships due to not getting local kids. That is total BS. For the most part, people in Utah are so full of themselves they can't see the forest for the trees. It's true that if we could, somehow, get all of the top players from Utah they would compete for a BSC title. However, I don't believe that bunch would win in the MWC or the PAC12. They would not even be close to winning a National Championship at Weber's level, let alone at the FBS level. Hiring Coach Peck, with his stated attitude of local only, would be a disaster for any D1 program. He might be great for Dixie or Eastern Utah CC. He is obviously happy where he is at. Otherwise he would be taking a coordinator position at the next level, to gain a little more experience. Besides, do you really think that he would come in and suddenly be able to get players away from YBU, UU, and USU.

Get real! :wall: :dunce: :tothehand:
 
oldrunner said:
This article implies that WSU did not seriously consider Dave Peck for a coaching position in the past. I can tell you that is the farthest thing from the truth. Al candidates are seriously considered.

The article goes on to imply that WSU is not winning championships due to not getting local kids. That is total BS. For the most part, people in Utah are so full of themselves they can't see the forest for the trees. It's true that if we could, somehow, get all of the top players from Utah they would compete for a BSC title. However, I don't believe that bunch would win in the MWC or the PAC12. They would not even be close to winning a National Championship at Weber's level, let alone at the FBS level. Hiring Coach Peck, with his stated attitude of local only, would be a disaster for any D1 program. He might be great for Dixie or Eastern Utah CC. He is obviously happy where he is at. Otherwise he would be taking a coordinator position at the next level, to gain a little more experience. Besides, do you really think that he would come in and suddenly be able to get players away from YBU, UU, and USU.

Get real! :wall: :dunce: :tothehand:
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:clap: Amen to that!! Add that getting the leftover "borderline good" state football players (only) would make it unlikely even finishing in the top half of the BSC and that would drive whatever increase in attendance away after disappointing results. Not knocking Utah players, fine to recruit what is possible to add to local interest, but need some "blue chip" players from out of state to add to the mix for success! A high school coach moving up to say Snow College or even Dixie State has been done & worked out but is a big gamble for a FCS level football team.
 
I might be in the minority on this one, but I think Dave Peck is an interesting candidate. If he keeps a couple current coaches on staff, who have a good feel for recruiting outside the state and he knows how to recruit inside the state it might end up being a good combination. But we all know Bovee looks for the home run hitter, big time name, candidate. Weber is going to clean house and start with a clean slate. Peck might be the right guy for the job. There is just a good vibe that goes with him. And yes, kids go to schools where they like the coaches. Look at Randy Rahe. We keep getting guys who shouldn't be playing in the Big Sky but are because of the coaches.
 
I believe the arguments for Peck have been respectable but I think the hire needs to be about more than in-state popularity. Weber needs someone with instant credibility at the collegiate level and, in my opinion, instant credibility with Weber State Football. I stated it above- I think McGiven or Clune would be great hires because they have proven track records AT WEBER STATE and at other institutions as well. They were the coordinators on the most successful team in Weber State Football history and have spent nearly their entire careers in the state of Utah. Also, they're younger guys who would likely view the job as a major career opportunity rather than a temporary stopover (i.e. John L Smith).
 
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