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30-7 v. 12-10
- Thread starter Da Griz
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13thwarrior
Member
You forgot about the auto +7 points for home field advantage... NC by 14
Oh and the refs always favor us after we take em out the night before for free drinks +7.
So in total it would be NC by 7. Am I missing anything that would work in our favor??
(Bearsfan24, this is a joke BTW, in case you decide to flip out on me again)
Oh and the refs always favor us after we take em out the night before for free drinks +7.
So in total it would be NC by 7. Am I missing anything that would work in our favor??
(Bearsfan24, this is a joke BTW, in case you decide to flip out on me again)
13thwarrior
Member
Well I think it's now at Griz by 7. But there's more in disguise here....
Monte (2009) = +3
Benny (if he shows) = +10
Rocky and Moe = -7
Weather this weekend = 0
Traffic blocked for all CO plates = +3
Student section = +-7
Dancesquad = +6 1/2 (tights don't look good on everyone)
Cheerleaders = +2 (damn male cheerleaders ruin this one) "spirit fingers"
Band = +3
Drunken Griz fans= +6.3-5x8+4x9/7.6-6.8x15/9.9 = +-???????????
Monte (2009) = +3
Benny (if he shows) = +10
Rocky and Moe = -7
Weather this weekend = 0
Traffic blocked for all CO plates = +3
Student section = +-7
Dancesquad = +6 1/2 (tights don't look good on everyone)
Cheerleaders = +2 (damn male cheerleaders ruin this one) "spirit fingers"
Band = +3
Drunken Griz fans= +6.3-5x8+4x9/7.6-6.8x15/9.9 = +-???????????
Bearsfan24
Active member
Hope so.
Da Griz
Active member
Really? Rumor has it that Joe's going back to Northern Colorado? Granted he had a nice last four or five years there, but the following three years here can't be seen as anything but "moving up", which means he'd be taking quite a fall from Wyoming even though that was two years ago. He was a PR dynamo here for sure, although it was always a matter of debate about how much actual coaching he did. Some players answered that question in private to me by asking if I've seen the stop watch hanging around his neck, and then saying that's what he's in charge of. Period.Beardown said:
I love Joe's loyalty. He comes back here at times, runs into the audience and leads them in the Griz fight song.
It would be fun.
budbear
Active member
Finally someone has said something intelligent on this board. Joe Glenn is not a coach, he is an inspirational speaker. He was a loser at Wyoming and proved that your team is only as good as your recruited talent. If he came back here he would have to bring with him some great coaches that actually know how to coach and have better luck in recruiting than he had at Wyoming.Da Griz said:
If Joe is willing to come back and he's not hired, everyone on this board will scream for Jay's head immediately. I really don't think Joe can come in here and win the BS in 3-4 years, not sure anyone can. UNC can't really afford to pay quality head coaches, much less really good proven assistant coaches - unless we can compete budgetarily with Weber, Montana etc.
Going to Wyoming ruined Glenn's career as it has most coaches who have gone there. There is no way he would be considered for a BCS coaching job after his last few seasons there. It would make perfect sense for him to come back to UNC and I have no doubt he could get UNC up to snuff in the BSC.
Da Griz
Active member
Glenn's personality goes a long way toward being a great recruiter - of assistants as well as players and especially supporters. Pure magic. I wouldn't be surprised if hiring him would result in a major advance for you.
There's truth in "The bigger they are, the harder they fall", and those with sparkling positives also carry dark negatives. Mention the name "Joe Glenn" to some who were on the Griz team in 2002 and you'll see them bristle. Consistent accounts are that Glenn was addressing the troops during the last team meeting of the season, and the last forever for the Seniors, when he stopped to answer his cell phone. A few seconds later, without saying a word, he walked out of the meeting and wasn't seen or heard from until he appeared on TV a few days later wearing a Cowboys cap.
All that said, he'd get a very warm welcome running out of the visitor's tunnel at Wa-Griz.
There's truth in "The bigger they are, the harder they fall", and those with sparkling positives also carry dark negatives. Mention the name "Joe Glenn" to some who were on the Griz team in 2002 and you'll see them bristle. Consistent accounts are that Glenn was addressing the troops during the last team meeting of the season, and the last forever for the Seniors, when he stopped to answer his cell phone. A few seconds later, without saying a word, he walked out of the meeting and wasn't seen or heard from until he appeared on TV a few days later wearing a Cowboys cap.
All that said, he'd get a very warm welcome running out of the visitor's tunnel at Wa-Griz.
budbear
Active member
I don't understand how some on this board don't see him for what he really is. He is not what we need here at UNC. I think he is a great speaker and a glad hand, but not the guy we need to coach our team. He is exactly like Dennis Erickson who couldn't wait to move on to a bigger stage. I don't think the people at Idaho are very happy with him after he burst their bubble and left town after 10 months when he got an offer to go to Arizona. Joe Glenn would do the same thing to UNC in trying to get back to the big time. We need a coach that will want to be a part of UNC and want to stick around for a few years. I see that in Tad Boyle our basketball coach. He seems like he really wants to be at UNC. Get off the Joe (I want to move on)Glenn campaign.Da Griz said:
I personally have no problem with coaches using UNC as a stepping stone to bigger things because they will have to do well while they are here which will advance their respective programs. Also, a coach who is content here may not have the fire that a climber would. I don't think Glenn could really want bigger things (or at least realistically expect them) anymore--he's gotta be 60 or so by now and reaching the end of his career and if he coaches somewhere it will be for five or ten years tops. I think he could get this program headed in the right direction and maybe find a good assistant who could eventually take over.
gobears
Active member
I agree, I think we have to be realistic an realize that most coaches, especially in the major sports, will eventually want to move on to bigger an better things, and I am fine with that. I dont want to spend my career doing the same job I am doing now, I hope to advance, and cant blame anyone else for wanting the same! Sure it would be great if we had talented lifers at every coaching job, but that is just not realistic.
On the subject of Boyle, if memory serves me correctly, he did not exactly beat down the front door to get here, he turned down our first offer. I would be extremely surprised to see him stay here forever. He does have family in town, so that may keep him here for a while, but he is a strong coach and I expect him to move on eventually.
On the subject of Boyle, if memory serves me correctly, he did not exactly beat down the front door to get here, he turned down our first offer. I would be extremely surprised to see him stay here forever. He does have family in town, so that may keep him here for a while, but he is a strong coach and I expect him to move on eventually.
uncfootballrules
Active member
Wow there are some ridiculous comments in here today.
My two cents is that Joe would be welcomed back in a second and should be. I do not think he wants that but I would be all for it. Being a good head coach has very little to do with your ability to develop a gameplan or call plays on gameday. It has everything to do with recruiting a good staff, good players, keeping admin off your back and keeping the boosters happy. Mostly it has to do with winning games and Joe did that here better than anyone else. I would think since he is the winningest coach in Montana history and the coach of their last national championship team they would agree. Players are a poor evaluator of the head coach and his role, mainly because they are teenage kids that have no idea what is going on except for what their position coach tells them. They cannot see the forest through the trees.
Any coach who comes to UNC will be hoping to move on to a bigger job. That is the nature of a school of our size. Why that would offend anyone is beyond me.
Boyle is a good coach and if things continue to progress he will be at a bigger school within the next 5 years. Again nothing wrong with that and I hope it happens because we will have a good team until then and should be able to recruit a good coach who is either younger or at a lower division to come in and do the same thing.
My two cents is that Joe would be welcomed back in a second and should be. I do not think he wants that but I would be all for it. Being a good head coach has very little to do with your ability to develop a gameplan or call plays on gameday. It has everything to do with recruiting a good staff, good players, keeping admin off your back and keeping the boosters happy. Mostly it has to do with winning games and Joe did that here better than anyone else. I would think since he is the winningest coach in Montana history and the coach of their last national championship team they would agree. Players are a poor evaluator of the head coach and his role, mainly because they are teenage kids that have no idea what is going on except for what their position coach tells them. They cannot see the forest through the trees.
Any coach who comes to UNC will be hoping to move on to a bigger job. That is the nature of a school of our size. Why that would offend anyone is beyond me.
Boyle is a good coach and if things continue to progress he will be at a bigger school within the next 5 years. Again nothing wrong with that and I hope it happens because we will have a good team until then and should be able to recruit a good coach who is either younger or at a lower division to come in and do the same thing.
