3rd best team in the Big Sky?

[talhadfoursteals]

Eastern is going to be really good next year!! Their backcourt is solid, their frontcourt is solid, and they have a good coach. How can they not be good next year? Their depth chart, to me, is scary good.

PG: Forbes/Hankins
SG: Chiverton/Winford
SF: Colimon/Ederaine
PF: Johnson/Henry
C: Griffin/Hickert

 

[WSUnPurple]

Eastern is going to be really good next year!! Their backcourt is solid, their frontcourt is solid, and they have a good coach. How can they not be good next year? Their depth chart, to me, is scary good.

PG: Forbes/Hankins
SG: Chiverton/Winford
SF: Colimon/Ederaine
PF: Johnson/Henry
C: Griffin/Hickert

:werd:

 

[SWeberCat02]

A topic discussing the 3rd best team in the conference gets 21 responses in less than a day. Meanwhile the football team kicks off the season in 2 days and there's hardly any chatter on the football side. Lame. I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Weber can't draw more than 8,000 to most home football games. hno:

 

[WSUnPurple1]

A topic discussing the 3rd best team in the conference gets 21 responses in less than a day. Meanwhile the football team kicks off the season in 2 days and there's hardly any chatter on the football side. Lame. I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Weber can't draw more than 8,000 to most home football games. hno:

:blah: :blah: :blah:

Maybe they can't draw more than 8,000 because they start the season off with losses to teams like Sac., or can't run the ball into the endzone from the 1 with the game on the line against a team they have beat once in the last 7 years. I remember that game, it was lame.

 

[SWeberCat02]

A topic discussing the 3rd best team in the conference gets 21 responses in less than a day. Meanwhile the football team kicks off the season in 2 days and there's hardly any chatter on the football side. Lame. I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Weber can't draw more than 8,000 to most home football games. hno:

:blah: :blah: :blah:

Maybe they can't draw more than 8,000 because they start the season off with losses to teams like Sac., or can't run the ball into the endzone from the 1 with the game on the line against a team they have beat once in the last 7 years. I remember that game, it was lame.

Agreed, those things are lame. But what parts of home games vs CO Christian, Seattle, Southwest, blowing a 20 point half time lead, and an indepth discussion of who will take 3rd in a below average conference aren't lame?

 

[n.ogdencat]

A topic discussing the 3rd best team in the conference gets 21 responses in less than a day. Meanwhile the football team kicks off the season in 2 days and there's hardly any chatter on the football side. Lame. I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Weber can't draw more than 8,000 to most home football games. hno:

:doh:

Hey, SWCat...I always enjoy your remarks, but getting mad at fans for loving basketball is a bit bizarre. Don't worry about me...I'll be in laramie.

 

[bigskychamps07]

A topic discussing the 3rd best team in the conference gets 21 responses in less than a day. Meanwhile the football team kicks off the season in 2 days and there's hardly any chatter on the football side. Lame. I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Weber can't draw more than 8,000 to most home football games. hno:

:blah: :blah: :blah:

Maybe they can't draw more than 8,000 because they start the season off with losses to teams like Sac., or can't run the ball into the endzone from the 1 with the game on the line against a team they have beat once in the last 7 years. I remember that game, it was lame.

Skeeter I appreciate you as a fan but sometimes you are just so dang ignorant. Just because football is not Division I BCS you deem it inferior. The fact is that Weber is actually pretty similar competitively speaking in basketball and football. Basketball is just a little stronger program still. However, most years we STILL don't beat the big schools. See Tulsa (L), Arizona State (L), Utah State (L) last year. Yes, we beat UNC in 1999, but Appalachian State, a team in FCS division beat Michigan in the Big House. The football team WILL get their breakthrough win eventually, I personally guarantee it. You have no idea the caliber of talent that we get on the football team. Weber basketball is ranked as the 77th best team next season on a up year. Football is ranked 128th best team in the country including BCS schools on a "down" year. I don't see a big difference.

 

[SWeberCat02]

A topic discussing the 3rd best team in the conference gets 21 responses in less than a day. Meanwhile the football team kicks off the season in 2 days and there's hardly any chatter on the football side. Lame. I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Weber can't draw more than 8,000 to most home football games. hno:

:doh:

Hey, SWCat...I always enjoy your remarks, but getting mad at fans for loving basketball is a bit bizarre. Don't worry about me...I'll be in laramie.

Ain't mad. I love the hoops. Just frustrated as always with the lack of a bigger fan base that's as passionate about Weber sports, including football, as I and you are. :thumb:

 

[weberwildcat]

it isn't cool to argue about which team is better/worse at our school. it is insulting to the fans/coaches/players/university/bengalhater.

 

[n.ogdencat]

A topic discussing the 3rd best team in the conference gets 21 responses in less than a day. Meanwhile the football team kicks off the season in 2 days and there's hardly any chatter on the football side. Lame. I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Weber can't draw more than 8,000 to most home football games. hno:

:doh:

Hey, SWCat...I always enjoy your remarks, but getting mad at fans for loving basketball is a bit bizarre. Don't worry about me...I'll be in laramie.

Ain't mad. I love the hoops. Just frustrated as always with the lack of a bigger fan base that's as passionate about Weber sports, including football, as I and you are. :thumb:

:clap: :rockon: :clap:

I would love to see Stewart at 18K every home game and the Dee at 12K. I think the teams deserve the fan support. They've earned it.

 

[weberwildcat]

A topic discussing the 3rd best team in the conference gets 21 responses in less than a day. Meanwhile the football team kicks off the season in 2 days and there's hardly any chatter on the football side. Lame. I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Weber can't draw more than 8,000 to most home football games. hno:

:blah: :blah: :blah:

Maybe they can't draw more than 8,000 because they start the season off with losses to teams like Sac., or can't run the ball into the endzone from the 1 with the game on the line against a team they have beat once in the last 7 years. I remember that game, it was lame.

Agreed, those things are lame. But what parts of home games vs CO Christian, Seattle, Southwest, blowing a 20 point half time lead, and an indepth discussion of who will take 3rd in a below average conference aren't lame?

no non-DI game is worth attending whether it is at the Dee or at Stew.

 

[n.ogdencat]

A topic discussing the 3rd best team in the conference gets 21 responses in less than a day. Meanwhile the football team kicks off the season in 2 days and there's hardly any chatter on the football side. Lame. I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Weber can't draw more than 8,000 to most home football games. hno:

:blah: :blah: :blah:

Maybe they can't draw more than 8,000 because they start the season off with losses to teams like Sac., or can't run the ball into the endzone from the 1 with the game on the line against a team they have beat once in the last 7 years. I remember that game, it was lame.

Agreed, those things are lame. But what parts of home games vs CO Christian, Seattle, Southwest, blowing a 20 point half time lead, and an indepth discussion of who will take 3rd in a below average conference aren't lame?

no non-DI game is worth attending whether it is at the Dee or at Stew.

LOOOOOL You Bengalhater!! And you also hate Weber playing FBS. You are a WaNk.

 

[jon]

Lots of great stuff in this thread! Some thoughts:

- With Montana State I think they have the talent, but it is a lot of guys that will be new faces. There is also word that Biglow won't be eligible to play until January, and a chance he doesn't play for the Bobcats all year. That would be a big loss for them if he is not eligible. They have a chance to be really good this year, and next I like them a lot.

- Agreed with skeeter about Tremayne Johnson and his importance to the team this year. It's true we don't know quite how good Chiverton will be yet, but either way their backcourt should be solid. They need frontcourt production, and Johnson is their best frontcourt player. If he can be a little more efficient scoring the ball, they will be very good. Crogsile (one of the transfers Tal was talking about) was a nice recruit and played good minutes for St. Joe's, so I am excited to see him play next year.

- Feel like UNC could be middle of the pack, but definitely a year away from being a true contender. Garnica and Unruh are really solid, and I like Addo a lot in the frontcourt. Solid give man recruiting class as well. But they will be young, very young.

- I think NAU is a year away also. Rogers and Saldivar are solid, but a lot of question marks everywhere else. Solid recruits, but it's tought to ask a freshman to come in and contribute right away. In the frontcourt they have an interesting mix of guys (returners, newcomers, redshirts, guys coming back from injury) but they will need a couple of guys to step up, don't know who it will be yet.

- PSU has coaching questions, but I think they are on the right track. Academically they are improved, and that off-court stuff can affect things on the court. Odum and Tapscott are solid returners, McMullan is a solid JUCO PG, Michael Harthun transferred from WSU and could be a nice contributor, and Brandon Cataldo (who redshirted last year) was a top 10 center recruit before he got injured his senior year of high school. If he can get back his explosiveness, he will be very solid right away.

- ISU and SacSt, yuck. They will have some long seasons.

- Next year, UND will be a nice addition for the conference and should be competitive right away. They had 5 freshman that played big minutes last year... of the 10 youngest teams in America last season, only them and Memphis finished above .500. I'm interested to see if they can improve on that next year, and then they will be dangerous in their first year of Big Sky play.

This will be a great year... the top 7 is very topsy turvy and could legitimately go a number of different ways. It should be a lot of fun to see how things shake out. Is it time for the season to start yet??

 

[WSUFootballer]

A topic discussing the 3rd best team in the conference gets 21 responses in less than a day. Meanwhile the football team kicks off the season in 2 days and there's hardly any chatter on the football side. Lame. I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Weber can't draw more than 8,000 to most home football games. hno:

:blah: :blah: :blah:

Maybe they can't draw more than 8,000 because they start the season off with losses to teams like Sac., or can't run the ball into the endzone from the 1 with the game on the line against a team they have beat once in the last 7 years. I remember that game, it was lame.

Skeeter I appreciate you as a fan but sometimes you are just so dang ignorant. Just because football is not Division I BCS you deem it inferior. The fact is that Weber is actually pretty similar competitively speaking in basketball and football. Basketball is just a little stronger program still. However, most years we STILL don't beat the big schools. See Tulsa (L), Arizona State (L), Utah State (L) last year. Yes, we beat UNC in 1999, but Appalachian State, a team in FCS division beat Michigan in the Big House. The football team WILL get their breakthrough win eventually, I personally guarantee it. You have no idea the caliber of talent that we get on the football team. Weber basketball is ranked as the 77th best team next season on a up year. Football is ranked 128th best team in the country including BCS schools on a "down" year. I don't see a big difference.

77th of 347 vs 128th of 245 but football is a better sport! Go Weber in both!

 

[WILDCAT]

Im changing my vote


It will be between Eastern and Weber for the BSC title.

Montana finishes 3rd

 

[jon]

Tough to argue with that right now. EWU has looked very impressive, Montana has looked very uneven.

 

[hawkssb04]

Hello all! It seems that WSU are very active and knowledgeable about the Big Sky as a whole, so wanted to get your opinion on this.

It seems to me that Weber and Montana are 1-2 in the BSC, but things are open after that.

First, do you agree that Weber and Montana look like 1-2?
Second, who do you see as the third best team in the conference?

I think on paper, I agree with that 1-2 assessment. However, as non-league games have unfolded I think EWU has earned some consideration for the No. 2 spot. It's hard to really know until conference play gets underway, though.

 

[WeberSki]

I think the loss of Qvale takes them out of title contention. Cherry, Jamar, and Steward are all very solid, but Selvig is too inconsistent and soft. I think Montana takes 3rd, and EWU takes 2nd. EWU brought in the Cali JC player of the year, and that zeros out the loss of Dean to me, and as we have discussed the Eagles have a lot of good looking guards starting off with Coliman, Forbes, and Winford. NAU lost way too much, Jones, D. Jones, Johannsen sp? I don't think they will be in the top 3.

You are a visionary, Skeeter..

No mention of Tremayne Johnson for EWU, probably their most talented player. His offer from Arizona was pulled after the hiring of Sean Miller in a coaching change. I think he had 17 against us in March.
Anybody who doesn't think EWU can't take 2nd or 3rd this season wasn't in attendance, or wasn't watching close enough the last 2 home games of the season. THEY BEAT US BY 16 AT HOME. Our only other loss at home was to byu-utah by 4.

 

[bigskychamps07]

I think the loss of Qvale takes them out of title contention. Cherry, Jamar, and Steward are all very solid, but Selvig is too inconsistent and soft. I think Montana takes 3rd, and EWU takes 2nd. EWU brought in the Cali JC player of the year, and that zeros out the loss of Dean to me, and as we have discussed the Eagles have a lot of good looking guards starting off with Coliman, Forbes, and Winford. NAU lost way too much, Jones, D. Jones, Johannsen sp? I don't think they will be in the top 3.

You are a visionary, Skeeter..

No mention of Tremayne Johnson for EWU, probably their most talented player. His offer from Arizona was pulled after the hiring of Sean Miller in a coaching change. I think he had 17 against us in March.
Anybody who doesn't think EWU can't take 2nd or 3rd this season wasn't in attendance, or wasn't watching close enough the last 2 home games of the season. THEY BEAT US BY 16 AT HOME. Our only other loss at home was to byu-utah by 4.

I've been with you Weberski/Skeeter. I have been on the E. Wash 2nd best team bandwagon since the Gonzaga game.

 

[clawman]

This thread is a good example of why pre-season predictions are not worth much. At this point EWU has highest rating in RPI and Sagrin if you put much stock in those systems.
RPI
http://www.teamrankings.com/ncb/rpi/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
EWU #84
UM #130
Weber #131
PSU #143

Sagrin
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkt1112.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
EWU #91
Weber #102
PSU #147
UM # 161


The players are still getting familiar with Hayfords system. An example was the game at Idaho Wednesday. Chiverton sat on the bench the entire second half because we was taking shots for himself, not the team. When all of the players get on board with Hayfords plan, wondering which team is 3rd best will be old news. Everyone will be anxiously awaiting Jan 5 date between the top two teams in Cheney.