at Florida in 2017

[Beardown]

Pretty cool that the Bears will be making a trip to play in "the swamp" next year, a weak after playing in Boulder. It's a $625,000 paycheck.

 

[SLenz44]

Pretty cool that the Bears will be making a trip to play in "the swamp" next year, a weak after playing in Boulder. It's a $625,000 paycheck.

Do we get a check for the Buffs game as well?

 

[Bear Fiend]

$350,000 and 1,700 game tickets for the CU game.

We will be a MASH unit for the start of conference play.

 

[Da(UNC)Bears]

Which fans do you think will be better towards bear fans CSU or CU? For the most part the Rams fans were cool on Saturday.

 

[Miguel]

So were the Purdue and Mich State fans. They love us at homecoming

 

[beardevil39]

Those fans are the furthest thing from my mind. We have our own fans to worry about with NAU coming in next week !

 

[LAMMERGEYER]

Thanks for posting this info beardown

If we don't play the big schools we don't beat them

North Dakota State should be our model...they'll soon be making the same leap we want

 

[Beardown]

Playing schools like Florida will be great for recruiting. I say keep putting them on the schedule.

 

[Miguel]

Thanks for posting this info beardown

If we don't play the big schools we don't beat them

North Dakota State needs to be our model....they'll soon be making the same leap we want

We have enough trouble beating Division III and NAIA schools and just got stomped by CSU and you are talking about beating "big schools"? Making the leap? Delusional fans like you are why this program will never consistently rise higher than the cellar of the Big Sky Conference. The best we can hope for at this point is to finish in the middle of the pack in conference play. The Big Sky is mediocre this year with the Montanas down. Realistic goals not delusion...

 

[LAMMERGEYER]

The best we can hope for at this point is to finish in the middle of the pack in conference play.

Where do we get the nerve to play CSU at all when it's unlikely to be a win?

Why would we want to play CU and Florida when those games probably will be losses too?

We need to move to Division III so we can only play teams we can beat and dominate. Anything else is delusional.

Building confidence by playing bigger teams, getting national exposure to help recruiting of players and coaches, getting a hefty payday to help the program, building alumni and student excitement and support...none of this matters.

Who's the "delusional" one?

:thefan:

 

[Miguel]

You apparently have trouble with comprehension. Try reading slowly and saying the words out loud....

UNC plays big teams for the money and have been for years and that's all it is about .... Exactly what confidence did our defense gain by getting beat up by CSU? Exactly what kind of exposure did we get nationally? CSU is pretty much unknown outside of the West. No one remembers the name of the FCS school you play at Homecoming and beat by 7 touchdowns. DII Northern Colorado mattered. FCS Northern Colorado is your Homecoming opponent. The best we can hope for is to be like NAU and consistently win 6 or 7 games a year. Last year was our FIRST winning record. Let's try beating EWU as a realistic goal in a few years... Until then geniuses like LAMBERGEYER are a destructive force to UNC's future...

 

[Beardown]

You apparently have trouble with comprehension. Try reading slowly and saying the words out loud....

UNC plays big teams for the money and have been for years and that's all it is about .... Exactly what confidence did our defense gain by getting beat up by CSU? Exactly what kind of exposure did we get nationally? CSU is pretty much unknown outside of the West. No one remembers the name of the FCS school you play at Homecoming and beat by 7 touchdowns. DII Northern Colorado mattered. FCS Northern Colorado is your Homecoming opponent. The best we can hope for is to be like NAU and consistently win 6 or 7 games a year. Last year was our FIRST winning record. Let's try beating EWU as a realistic goal in a few years... Until then geniuses like LAMBERGEYER are a destructive force to UNC's future...

We get your point; and you've made it multiple times. You hate the move to D1. That's fine and all, but there is nothing you can do about it now. I suggest supporting the young athletes and coaches that are trying to win.
Either that or go support Mesa, Ft. Lewis and the likes.

 

[LAMMERGEYER]

You apparently have trouble with comprehension. Try reading slowly and saying the words out loud....

UNC plays big teams for the money and have been for years and that's all it is about .... Exactly what confidence did our defense gain by getting beat up by CSU? Exactly what kind of exposure did we get nationally? CSU is pretty much unknown outside of the West. No one remembers the name of the FCS school you play at Homecoming and beat by 7 touchdowns. DII Northern Colorado mattered. FCS Northern Colorado is your Homecoming opponent. The best we can hope for is to be like NAU and consistently win 6 or 7 games a year. Last year was our FIRST winning record. Let's try beating EWU as a realistic goal in a few years... Until then geniuses like LAMBERGEYER are a destructive force to UNC's future...

UNC plays big teams for the money and have been for years and that's all it is about .... Exactly what confidence did our defense gain by getting beat up by CSU? Exactly what kind of exposure did we get nationally? CSU is pretty much unknown outside of the West. No one remembers the name of the FCS school you play at Homecoming and beat by 7 touchdowns. DII Northern Colorado mattered. FCS Northern Colorado is your Homecoming opponent. The best we can hope for is to be like NAU and consistently win 6 or 7 games a year. Last year was our FIRST winning record. Let's try beating EWU as a realistic goal in a few years... Until then geniuses like LAMBERGEYER are a destructive force to UNC's future...

Geez, where to start?

First, go back on your meds and take a deep breath. And I appreciate your pun on my name, you are obviously a very brilliant woman. NC is lucky you chose to grace its campus with your legendary brain.

YOU are defining what NC's fans should hope for and anything beyond finishing in the middle of the Big Sky is "delusional" and "destructive"? The CSU game didn't go so well but NC got good experience and scored against an FBS opponent, 47-21, right? You place no value on experience unless the result is victory. The defense gave up 52 points to Abilene Christian, but we won, so that was great in your book. As you put it "UNC plays big teams for the money and have been for years and that's all it is about." We got our money from CSU and nothing else....

Do you think Dubose having forced a CSU fumble did gain some confidence? Sloter threw for 318 yards on 22-of-33 attempts with two touchdowns despite an overmatched offensive line. I wonder if he'll go into the NAU game feeling more confident? Miller hauled in four catches for 102 yards. But in the end it was a loss, so absolutely nothing gained, just money, why bother? We've got no positive momentum going forward into conference play even though despite injuries we put up 21 points, the most NC has ever put up on an FBS opponent. Where others see a glass half full, you see a pool of water and shattered glass; progress means nothing, retreat to a lower division in hopes of winning now.

When was the last time NC played CU? Getting to actually play other Division I teams that are geographic rivals means a lot to some fans, though you might prefer a punchless opponent like Southeastern New Mexico State Community College, which would surely inspire recruiting and the fan base. I'll be at the CU game next year. Can't say I'll make the Abilene Christian game. Getting fans excited = $ and $ helps the program improve. CSU used to be CU's whipping boy, but now they play annually and I cherish every time CU loses. We beat CSU in basketball last season and it was glorious. But had we lost, the game would've only been for money, right?

And playing the big dogs does help with recruiting. I wonder if knocking off #13 Iowa State will help with ND State's recruiting and funding? I wonder if Chattanooga mentioned during recruiting that it regularly plays perennial top team Alabama (they play this November--go Mocs)? Do you think NFL prospect defensive end Keionta Davis is looking forward to that game to show he was overlooked by FBS teams? If you can't be on the best team at least you can valiantly fight them.

The year the Marlyand women's team won the national title in basketball, NC got to play them (we had nearly beaten them on their own court the year before--despite being vastly outmatched--so they had us back). It didn't go so well the second time, but I wonder if NC players will forever talk of playing the National Champion team and future WNBA stars?

Chuck Wepner fought Ali, the best boxer of all time. Because Wepner lost, according to your advanced logic he gained nothing but money and should have never taken the fight. But Wepner knocked Ali down and went 15 rounds before losing against THE BEST OF ALL TIME. I wonder what the first thing people ask Wepner about, his 35 wins in 51 fights, or going up against Goliath and valiantly giving it all he had? BTW Wepner was the inspiration for the film Rocky, which you would not enjoy because Rocky, though he too battles valiantly, loses the fight, so he gained nothing but money and should have been fighting amateurs all along to pursue a win-now paradigm.

How is playing Florida not national exposure? If you'd been in charge App State never would have knocked off Michigan because you'd have considered it a loss and therefore worthless to even try. Or when James Madison knocked off in-state rival Virginia Tech...I wonder if JMU benefited at all? I mentioned the game to my JMU friend and she knows zilch about sportsl but savors that game and now follows the team each season because it showed heart by JMU to beat it's more famous rival.

The main thrust of your argument is "DII Northern Colorado mattered," and DI NC does not. You are what is known as a fair-weather fan. You want to win and now. You don't care if it's against Mesa State and Western State. You have no patience for losing and jumping to DI therefore is a hideous mistake and all who think otherwise are "delusional" and "destructive" to your fair-weather fan goals.

You say our only hope now is to someday "be like NAU". You say "Last year was our FIRST winning record" with bitterness and contempt rather than seeing it as a positive step. We moved up to DI and struggled but finally had a winning record and are getting opportunities that excite the fan base and help the program grow, but you feel we could be demolishing Mesa State and Western State and that would build a great program and inspire alumni to donate and attend.

I understand a woman such as yourself is passionate and headstrong and loves to win at any cost, but the cost to NC would be a giant step back. Therefore, I must respectfully disagree.

P.S.

After Wepner knocked down Ali, he went to his corner and said to his manager, "Al, start the car. We're going to the bank. We are millionaires."

Before the fight, a reporter asked Wepner if he thought he could survive in the ring with the champion, to which Wepner answered, "I've been a survivor my whole life...I can survive Ali." That's the attitude we need to instill in our student athletes and in every student really.

P.P.S.

The Lammergeyer is a bird of prey. It likes a tasty tortoise. But how to kill a tortoise which is as big as you are? It grabs the tortoise, takes it up to 1000 feet and drops it on some rocks, cracking open the bulky reptile's hard shell and exposing the tasty meat inside. There's something to be said for using what you have and staying positive, rather than looking in the mirror and saying "I'm a bird, I can't possible eat a tortoise."

 

[LAMMERGEYER]

You apparently have trouble with comprehension. Try reading slowly and saying the words out loud....

UNC plays big teams for the money and have been for years and that's all it is about .... Exactly what confidence did our defense gain by getting beat up by CSU? Exactly what kind of exposure did we get nationally? CSU is pretty much unknown outside of the West. No one remembers the name of the FCS school you play at Homecoming and beat by 7 touchdowns. DII Northern Colorado mattered. FCS Northern Colorado is your Homecoming opponent. The best we can hope for is to be like NAU and consistently win 6 or 7 games a year. Last year was our FIRST winning record. Let's try beating EWU as a realistic goal in a few years... Until then geniuses like LAMBERGEYER are a destructive force to UNC's future...

We get your point; and you've made it multiple times. You hate the move to D1. That's fine and all, but there is nothing you can do about it now. I suggest supporting the young athletes and coaches that are trying to win.
Either that or go support Mesa, Ft. Lewis and the likes.

Well said Beardown

:troll:

 

[LAMMERGEYER]

Just watching JMU upsetting VTech on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuCPHOsAscw

A foreshadowing of NC beating CU/CSU?

"You're team if full of people who weren't good enough to get offered by Tech haha"

"JMU has a lower acceptance rate than Tech ..........."

"we beat tech. the beauty of it all is we have bragging rights until our next meeting, which won't be for another x years. i'm also a bears fan. in a losing season, if we beat green bay twice, still a great season."

"no one has to pretend jmu is cool or good at football"

"Ever since App. State beat Michigan, it seems that more and more of the Div-1AA schools are beating the Div-1A schools. And they're not beating just bottom of the barrel schools like Temple or San Jose. They're beating decent, well regarded teams, like VA.Tech and Ole Miss"

"hahha ifs funny cuz VTech paid JMU to play and sitll lost"

"love it, couldnt be happier"

"I think it was the best win in school history. GO DUKES! "

 

[beardevil39]

You apparently have trouble with comprehension. Try reading slowly and saying the words out loud....

UNC plays big teams for the money and have been for years and that's all it is about .... Exactly what confidence did our defense gain by getting beat up by CSU? Exactly what kind of exposure did we get nationally? CSU is pretty much unknown outside of the West. No one remembers the name of the FCS school you play at Homecoming and beat by 7 touchdowns. DII Northern Colorado mattered. FCS Northern Colorado is your Homecoming opponent. The best we can hope for is to be like NAU and consistently win 6 or 7 games a year. Last year was our FIRST winning record. Let's try beating EWU as a realistic goal in a few years... Until then geniuses like LAMBERGEYER are a destructive force to UNC's future...

UNC plays big teams for the money and have been for years and that's all it is about .... Exactly what confidence did our defense gain by getting beat up by CSU? Exactly what kind of exposure did we get nationally? CSU is pretty much unknown outside of the West. No one remembers the name of the FCS school you play at Homecoming and beat by 7 touchdowns. DII Northern Colorado mattered. FCS Northern Colorado is your Homecoming opponent. The best we can hope for is to be like NAU and consistently win 6 or 7 games a year. Last year was our FIRST winning record. Let's try beating EWU as a realistic goal in a few years... Until then geniuses like LAMBERGEYER are a destructive force to UNC's future...

Geez, where to start?

First, go back on your meds and take a deep breath. And I appreciate your pun on my name, you are obviously a very brilliant woman. NC is lucky you chose to grace its campus with your legendary brain.

YOU are defining what NC's fans should hope for and anything beyond finishing in the middle of the Big Sky is "delusional" and "destructive"? The CSU game didn't go so well but NC got good experience and scored against an FBS opponent, 47-21, right? You place no value on experience unless the result is victory. The defense gave up 52 points to Abilene Christian, but we won, so that was great in your book. As you put it "UNC plays big teams for the money and have been for years and that's all it is about." We got our money from CSU and nothing else....

Do you think Dubose having forced a CSU fumble did gain some confidence? Sloter threw for 318 yards on 22-of-33 attempts with two touchdowns despite an overmatched offensive line. I wonder if he'll go into the NAU game feeling more confident? Miller hauled in four catches for 102 yards. But in the end it was a loss, so absolutely nothing gained, just money, why bother? We've got no positive momentum going forward into conference play even though despite injuries we put up 21 points, the most NC has ever put up on an FBS opponent. Where others see a glass half full, you see a pool of water and shattered glass; progress means nothing, retreat to a lower division in hopes of winning now.

When was the last time NC played CU? Getting to actually play other Division I teams that are geographic rivals means a lot to some fans, though you might prefer a punchless opponent like Southeastern New Mexico State Community College, which would surely inspire recruiting and the fan base. I'll be at the CU game next year. Can't say I'll make the Abilene Christian game. Getting fans excited = $ and $ helps the program improve. CSU used to be CU's whipping boy, but now they play annually and I cherish every time CU loses. We beat CSU in basketball last season and it was glorious. But had we lost, the game would've only been for money, right?

And playing the big dogs does help with recruiting. I wonder if knocking off #13 Iowa State will help with ND State's recruiting and funding? I wonder if Chattanooga mentioned during recruiting that it regularly plays perennial top team Alabama (they play this November--go Mocs)? Do you think NFL prospect defensive end Keionta Davis is looking forward to that game to show he was overlooked by FBS teams? If you can't be on the best team at least you can valiantly fight them.

The year the Marlyand women's team won the national title in basketball, NC got to play them (we had nearly beaten them on their own court the year before--despite being vastly outmatched--so they had us back). It didn't go so well the second time, but I wonder if NC players will forever talk of playing the National Champion team and future WNBA stars?

Chuck Wepner fought Ali, the best boxer of all time. Because Wepner lost, according to your advanced logic he gained nothing but money and should have never taken the fight. But Wepner knocked Ali down and went 15 rounds before losing against THE BEST OF ALL TIME. I wonder what the first thing people ask Wepner about, his 35 wins in 51 fights, or going up against Goliath and valiantly giving it all he had? BTW Wepner was the inspiration for the film Rocky, which you would not enjoy because Rocky, though he too battles valiantly, loses the fight, so he gained nothing but money and should have been fighting amateurs all along to pursue a win-now paradigm.

How is playing Florida not national exposure? If you'd been in charge App State never would have knocked off Michigan because you'd have considered it a loss and therefore worthless to even try. Or when James Madison knocked off in-state rival Virginia Tech...I wonder if JMU benefited at all? I mentioned the game to my JMU friend and she knows zilch about sportsl but savors that game and now follows the team each season because it showed heart by JMU to beat it's more famous rival.

The main thrust of your argument is "DII Northern Colorado mattered," and DI NC does not. You are what is known as a fair-weather fan. You want to win and now. You don't care if it's against Mesa State and Western State. You have no patience for losing and jumping to DI therefore is a hideous mistake and all who think otherwise are "delusional" and "destructive" to your fair-weather fan goals.

You say our only hope now is to someday "be like NAU". You say "Last year was our FIRST winning record" with bitterness and contempt rather than seeing it as a positive step. We moved up to DI and struggled but finally had a winning record and are getting opportunities that excite the fan base and help the program grow, but you feel we could be demolishing Mesa State and Western State and that would build a great program and inspire alumni to donate and attend.

I understand a woman such as yourself is passionate and headstrong and loves to win at any cost, but the cost to NC would be a giant step back. Therefore, I must respectfully disagree.

P.S.

After Wepner knocked down Ali, he went to his corner and said to his manager, "Al, start the car. We're going to the bank. We are millionaires."

Before the fight, a reporter asked Wepner if he thought he could survive in the ring with the champion, to which Wepner answered, "I've been a survivor my whole life...I can survive Ali." That's the attitude we need to instill in our student athletes and in every student really.

P.P.S.

The Lammergeyer is a bird of prey. It likes a tasty tortoise. But how to kill a tortoise which is as big as you are? It grabs the tortoise, takes it up to 1000 feet and drops it on some rocks, cracking open the bulky reptile's hard shell and exposing the tasty meat inside. There's something to be said for using what you have and staying positive, rather than looking in the mirror and saying "I'm a bird, I can't possible eat a tortoise."

Great commentary Lammergeyer !

 

[Miguel]

LAMBERGEYER seems to have a lot of time on his hands to create such a long winded yet mostly incomprehensible narrative which completely misses my point. Perhaps a part time job would help to fill the time in a constructive way or you could volunteer at a shelter; those options also might be effective strategies for dealing with your impressive array of anger issues. I especially liked the misogyny inherent in referring to me as a woman... such clever sexism! I'll bet your mother is proud to have such a progressive thinker in the family.... You were the captain of your debate team, weren't you?

By the way, a lammergeyer is a raptor most closely related to the vulture, a scavenger. It feeds mostly on dead animals and bones and rarely eats anything but rotting flesh. I now understand your curious choice of avatars.... you obviously do little research on your subject matter before you form an opinion....

 

[LAMMERGEYER]

LAMBERGEYER seems to have a lot of time on his hands to create such a long winded yet mostly incomprehensible narrative which completely misses my point. Perhaps a part time job would help to fill the time in a constructive way or you could volunteer at a shelter; those options also might be effective strategies for dealing with your impressive array of anger issues. I especially liked the misogyny inherent in referring to me as a woman... such clever sexism! I'll bet your mother is proud to have such a progressive thinker in the family.... You were the captain of your debate team, weren't you?

By the way, a lammergeyer is a raptor most closely related to the vulture, a scavenger. It feeds mostly on dead animals and bones and rarely eats anything but rotting flesh. I now understand your curious choice of avatars.... you obviously do little research on your subject matter before you form an opinion....

Ad hominem attack, impressive....

Doesn't take much time at all to rebut your "retreat-to-DIII, dominate-Mesa State" argument.

Thank you for being so gracious and admitting you're just a fair-weather fan trolling.... That's the first step in your recovery.

Here's wiki on the lammergeyer (AKA bearded vulture): "Live prey is sometimes attacked.... Among these, tortoises seem to be especially favored depending on their local abundance. Tortoises preyed on may be nearly as heavy as the preying vulture. When killing tortoise, bearded vultures also fly to some height and drop them to crack open the reptiles' hard shells. Golden eagles have been observed to kill tortoises in the same way.

here's an eagle doing the same thing:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/eagle-drops-tortoise/81813107/

Similarly, here's an eagle scaring a live goat off a cliff, the same move lammergeyers do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iFOVi0vJGU

 

[Miguel]

Still incomprehensible and still misses my point.... At no point did I say bearded vultures NEVER eat live prey, just that they predominately eat rotten flesh.... Your junior college classes will help with reading comprehension if you pay attention....

By the way, Mesa State is DII, not DIII, nor have I ever said UNC should move back to DIII...

But I have to give you credit for stiffling your misogyny urges... see, you can learn... good boy.

Now, go get my fries...

Go Bears; Beat Lumberjacks...

 

[LAMMERGEYER]

DII Northern Colorado mattered. FCS Northern Colorado is your Homecoming opponent. The best we can hope for is to be like NAU....

UNC 21, NAU 18

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