Does a soccer field not fit within the dimensions of a track?
Did a quick Google search and didn't find anything to the contrary.
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- Thread starter Phantom Hornet
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Does a soccer field not fit within the dimensions of a track?
Did a quick Google search and didn't find anything to the contrary.
stingthemgood
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It does -- but I was told we would need to use the infield for the throws facilities other than hammer.
Wondering if they’re thinking of 2031. Rugby World Cup will be in the United States. There’s already a list of potential hosts that doesn’t include Sacramento, but I remember when Corvallis was on a list for the 1994 Soccer World Cup. OR… there’s a chance for a few preliminary matches.
Kadeezy
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A FIFA preferred regulation field or American football field does not fit properly in an IAAF preferred athletics track.
Search double radius or double bend track and you’ll find more info on how track curves are modified to make it work.
Kadeezy
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Luckily there will be no track, and the field surface will be natural grass.
Kadeezy
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The more you look at it, BMO is nearly identical to the initial renderings of the new Hornet Stadium. If we can build a more affordable BMO with capacity at 30K+, that's will open a lot of doors. I imagine whether or not the PAC or MWC doors are opened to us will determine the final capacity.
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BuckeyeHornetFan
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Wonder why they're touring soccer stadiums for ideas for a college football team.
Seriously though, if Sac State is designing a stadium to accommodate a pro soccer team, that team better be investing some serious coin.
While the Republic FC could eventually end up being involved, at least for a few seasons anyway, according to reports and comments made by Wood/Orr there are no discussions going on currently,
I think they are touring soccer stadiums because they’ve planned on and announced a multi-purpose field/stadium that isn’t football specific.
As you know, it will also host Hornets soccer and rugby. Because of that, it only makes sense to look at current stadiums capable of accomodating those additional sports, no?
At this time, I don’t think it has a thing to do with a potential partnership with Republic FC. If they commit at a later time, so much the better.
HeavyistheClown
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How many attend a soccer game now? 200-300? Does anybody even attend club rugby games besides girl friends of the players?
HornetFootballFan
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I believe administratively it includes more sports than football for student athletes which may help in capital allocation being more distributed.
Building a facility that could host Sac Repubkic as a tenant is smart and financially a good move.
I imagine they’ve sourced many various athletic possibilities to generate revenues. Sac Joaquin playoff HS football.
Also non sporting events like concerts.
The bigger & better is fine w me. Lease to Sac Republic and whomever else wants to help us build our next stadium.
Building a facility that could host Sac Repubkic as a tenant is smart and financially a good move.
I imagine they’ve sourced many various athletic possibilities to generate revenues. Sac Joaquin playoff HS football.
Also non sporting events like concerts.
The bigger & better is fine w me. Lease to Sac Republic and whomever else wants to help us build our next stadium.
Kadeezy
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I was told the same group would tour SnapDragon stadium as well.Wonder why they're touring soccer stadiums for ideas for a college football team.
Seriously though, if Sac State is designing a stadium to accommodate a pro soccer team, that team better be investing some serious coin.
The trend for new football stadiums is for some covering or full indoor. Most college stadiums are renovations and are on budgets, so the addition of overhangs may not be feasible. But Northwestern and Baylor are examples of new football specific stadiums from ground up that have overhangs for shade.
There is no public announcement of a partnership with Sac Republic, but I would be surprised if they weren’t an important piece to help offset the operating loss when the stadium is used for a crowd of 50 people at a club rugby match.
Still think there will be alternate venues for soccer and club sports for this very reason. It's not uncommon. It is what will happen with basketball as well. Golden 1 for bigger games, and the converted Well for smaller crowds.
There is no public announcement of a partnership with Sac Republic, but I would be surprised if they weren’t an important piece to help offset the operating loss when the stadium is used for a crowd of 50 people at a club rugby match.
Still think there will be alternate venues for soccer and club sports for this very reason. It's not uncommon. It is what will happen with basketball as well. Golden 1 for bigger games, and the converted Well for smaller crowds.
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When you look at American college football stadiums in the 20-30k range , they tend to always look very Spartan even if they are new.
The new soccer stadiums with roofing structures and suites always look more polished. Europe has some really cool looking ones as they almost always have roof structures, and MLS stadium sizes more align with what Sac is pursuing.
I would guess they are looking at soccer stadiums because of the size seating wise, not specifically for fitting a soccer field.
Would be cheaper and easier to do what ucd and Fresno St did. Dig a hole in the ground and throw some seats in there. Build a modest press box and a few suites.
The vision appears to be bigger. It may very well be that there is a hole on the market for a large state of the art stadium in the region and the school stands to profit heavily off of events like concerts, etc.
Everyone can plug in their own reasonable assumptions why the school is going above and beyond what is needed to make the jump to FBS.
The vision appears to be bigger. It may very well be that there is a hole on the market for a large state of the art stadium in the region and the school stands to profit heavily off of events like concerts, etc.
Everyone can plug in their own reasonable assumptions why the school is going above and beyond what is needed to make the jump to FBS.
Impressive movement indeed.
It’s going to be a bigger project than someone like South Alabama, who raised money and got the stadium built. I think their end result is fine for a FBS school, but not to anchor a sports and entertainment area of a major metro market.
What size project does Sacramento State need to anchor the region?
For reference the largest modern stadium San Diego has is Snapdragon. Which is 35k and would be expandable to 55k for a pro football team. What needs does Sac have above and beyond San Diego?
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my comment of “bigger” was more the style, amenities, and finish of the stadium. South Alabama has little in that realm.
I don’t think many stadium projects shoot for huge capacity outside of the college football crazy areas. I don’t see Sac ever hosting NFL so that pressure is gone.
30k would seem to be a nice size, have to keep momentum and engage the community to make that worthwhile for football attendance. Maybe an area that can have bleachers added for big events ala Rugby World Cup.
I don’t think many stadium projects shoot for huge capacity outside of the college football crazy areas. I don’t see Sac ever hosting NFL so that pressure is gone.
30k would seem to be a nice size, have to keep momentum and engage the community to make that worthwhile for football attendance. Maybe an area that can have bleachers added for big events ala Rugby World Cup.
BuckeyeHornetFan
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Irrelevant. They still are looking for a specific stadium type, regardless whether Republic FC gets involved or not.
As I’ve speculated before, any relationship involving Republic FC is likely to be temporary anyway. If they ever get a call up to MLS, they’ll want their own stadium in the railyards (if still a possibility).
Kadeezy
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Completely agree with this. The USA stadium is a bare bones bowl, which I would obviously LOVE to have over nothing at all, but the school is counting on building something with design elements that make it more than just a football field. I would love to pull some of the concerts that BMO, SnapDragon and other MLS-style stadiums do. Also, ask the 49ers if they would build an overhang for shade if they could do it all over again!
I will fall to my knees and cry the day I walk into a BMO/SnapDragon-type facility for the first football game there. LOL