Athletic Facilities

[SDHornet]

Michelle is very negative on the stadium for some reason. And, she's wrong.

Haters gonna hate.

 

[SDHornet]

Last requirement of the 5 requirements is 15,000+ for each of the rest of the home games.
FUCD should be doable, but the others?

Homecoming should have no problem clearing 15k. They are also doing giveaways at all the non-Causeway games to encourage attendance. Regardless of how many make it through the gate, I trust the admin will be wise and cook the books to make sure, on paper, that 15k come through the gate.

 

[SDHornet]

Why not talk to the other 98% who want it? Who would complain, the area is zoned as industrial/commercial around the stadium. Residential area North around J Street wouldnt be effected, or not anymore as 30,000 students attending daily classes.

Glad they gave early exclusive renderings to CBS and not KCRA.

Highway 50 has been one big construction zone for the past 2 years from Bradshaw through West Sac. Anyone heading to downtown, midtown, and east Sac for work has the pleasure of sitting in brutal traffic everyday. Complaining about a project that will generate even more congestion on 50 is easy clickbait for the media.

 

[SDHornet]

Not likely. There’s just not enough cachet with the incoming opponents, even when this team is really winning. UCD is likely the only exception.

In the past 2 seasons Hornet home games have more or less averaged “around” 12K.

The instances of eclipsing 15K were against Montana, Montana State, Idaho and UCD (which was over 23K). So only 4 of 12 home games. Even the home playoff games against Richmond and IW didn’t come close to 15K.

Part of that was weather (for at least one game) and another is unfamiliarity with the FCS opponents.

Color me silly, but the turnout for the likes of Cal, Stanford, ASU (yes, I know they aren’t Pac12 anymore) would be drastically higher than for Richmond, Incarnate Word, and the vast majority of the Big Sky. Familiarity matters. A lot.

You have to go back to the '21 season to find a regular season home game that didn't clear 10k. I've heard that historically we report actual attendance and not tickets sold. Hopefully the department has wised up and is reporting tickets sold.

Our attendance at the FBS level in a conference with regional opponents will crush our FCS attendance numbers against schools the casual fan has never heard of. Any arguments using our FCS attendance as a reason to be "unworthy" of an FBS invite are not based on comparable situations.

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

I messaged her privately and asked What are you doing?

Your comments are suggesting and encouraging the community to complain about traffic etc?

She said they had some people voice concerns?

People complaining about traffic is beyond nauseating.

You live in a metro area of 2.5M, people! Furthermore, with regard to those near the Sac State campus, you live near the heart of that 2.5M metro area. There’s always going to be traffic! Get over it!

If you want nothing around your community with nowhere to go and nothing to do — go live in a rural area nowhere near a medium or large-sized city!

For those that recognize the benefits of more attractions and things to do, but looking to avoid the extra traffic — there’s this transportation option in place called light rail. Students can use it from University and 65th streets to get to downtown and back and so can fans via the gold or blue lines.

And anyone along the HWY50 corridor can use it to get to Hornet Stadium.

Time to stop complaining and start utilizing public transportation like most every major city on the east coast already does. If people start using it more often, they’ll have the money to upgrade, expand, and improve upon it.

Fwiw, I typically like Dapper. But she’s going in the wrong direction on this.

 

[HeavyistheClown]

I don't see the Pac accepting a 25k seat stadium in their conference.

USU is 25,000. WSU is mid to low 30,000’s.

 

[Hornet25]

USU is 25,000. WSU is mid to low 30,000’s.

Small towns.

 

[SDHornet]

USU is 25,000. WSU is mid to low 30,000’s.

I thought USU's digs were bigger, thanks for pointing that out.

 

[stingthemgood]

So here is where I’m struggling with field surface. Rugby needs a grass surface. Bottom line. But, if the Stadium is truly going to be used by both Rugby teams, both Soccer teams and Football, there is no way it can be grass because they would all be using it in the fall. No teams would be able to practice on it. And we would need at least a year to grow a grass surface that could even potentially hold up to all of our teams, let alone having a major tenant using it as well.

The rugby team does not have a path to being a varsity sport, so its inclusion in the stadium plan is still puzzling to me. If it is a turf stadium, they’ll be gone after a year because no one will want to play them on it.

 

[HornetFootballFan]

I thought USU's digs were bigger, thanks for pointing that out.

Cameras give a bigger look, Griz Stadium looks huge then I saw it was like 19K seats. The design on TV looks like 30K.

 

[HornetFootballFan]

People complaining about traffic is beyond nauseating.

You live in a metro area of 2.5M, people! Furthermore, with regard to those near the Sac State campus, you live near the heart of that 2.5M metro area. There’s always going to be traffic! Get over it!

If you want nothing around your community with nowhere to go and nothing to do — go live in a rural area nowhere near a medium or large-sized city!

For those that recognize the benefits of more attractions and things to do, but looking to avoid the extra traffic — there’s this transportation option in place called light rail. Students can use it from University and 65th streets to get to downtown and back and so can fans via the gold or blue lines.

And anyone along the HWY50 corridor can use it to get to Hornet Stadium.

Time to stop complaining and start utilizing public transportation like most every major city on the east coast already does. If people start using it more often, they’ll have the money to upgrade, expand, and improve upon it.

Fwiw, I typically like Dapper. But she’s going in the wrong direction on this.

You guys should message her. I was disappointed. She’s usually supportive but in her interview with Orr she was challenging him mostly about funds, money, budgets, etc.

If I were ORR next time she wanted an interview she would be last called upon,

Maybe she’s pissed because CBS got stadium drawingS first?

 

[HornetFootballFan]

You have to go back to the '21 season to find a regular season home game that didn't clear 10k. I've heard that historically we report actual attendance and not tickets sold. Hopefully the department has wised up and is reporting tickets sold.

Our attendance at the FBS level in a conference with regional opponents will crush our FCS attendance numbers against schools the casual fan has never heard of. Any arguments using our FCS attendance as a reason to be "unworthy" of an FBS invite are not based on comparable situations.

I’ve been going back & forth w some Fresno st fans.
He feels that both sjsu & Reno won’t want us in MWC because they don’t want more competition for athletes in area.
Fresno st thinks we haven’t proven ourselves good enough in FB to deserve chance in PAC.
Those are our roadblocks is what he’s divulged. He’s a bit jealous too big city $$ saying we are being arrogant.
I said not at all. Excited because we’ve waited so F’ing long for this day getting a new FB stadium.
Now we want FBs because we want recreational games & rivalries w FSU / Reno / SJSU because they are travel local areas for fun tailgates etc.

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

You guys should message her. I was disappointed. She’s usually supportive but in her interview with Orr she was challenging him mostly about funds, money, budgets, etc.

If I were ORR next time she wanted an interview she would be last called upon,

Maybe she’s pissed because CBS got stadium drawingS first?

Yesterday I saw Mark Orr's sit down with ABC10 reporter Devin Trubey, and thought she did a really nice job. Very professional and lots of good questions. I didn't sense an agenda at all.

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

I’ve been going back & forth w some Fresno st fans.

He feels that both sjsu & Reno won’t want us in MWC because they don’t want more competition for athletes in area.

Fresno st thinks we haven’t proven ourselves good enough in FB to deserve chance in PAC.

Those are our roadblocks is what he’s divulged.

Fortunately nothing these dolts think or say matter in the least. They aren't part of the process and have zero influence or say on anything.

I guarantee he has zero clue what actual roadblocks exists or what PAC-12 members have shared with the Hornets president/administration -- if anything at all.

Weren't some speculating just a few days ago that the Hornets men's and women's basketball programs playing conference games at Golden One Center was a pipe dream and wishful thinking (just prior to the offer to use G1C being announced)?

Nobody outside of the university and conference leadership teams know a damn thing. Like everyone else, they are relying upon inside news to eventually drop.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

I’ve been going back & forth w some Fresno st fans.
He feels that both sjsu & Reno won’t want us in MWC because they don’t want more competition for athletes in area.
Fresno st thinks we haven’t proven ourselves good enough in FB to deserve chance in PAC.
Those are our roadblocks is what he’s divulged. He’s a bit jealous too big city $$ saying we are being arrogant.
I said not at all. Excited because we’ve waited so F’ing long for this day getting a new FB stadium.
Now we want FBs because we want recreational games & rivalries w FSU / Reno / SJSU because they are travel local areas for fun tailgates etc.

You will never win that battle. They think their shit dont stink because they have had to 'pay the price' to be FBS or invited to the PacX.
Really, they understand deep down that Sac has more resources and potential if marshalled correctly than FresNot will ever hope to achieve.
The only argument is the 'you have to pay your dues' schtick.

 

[FootballAlum84]

So here is where I’m struggling with field surface. Rugby needs a grass surface. Bottom line. But, if the Stadium is truly going to be used by both Rugby teams, both Soccer teams and Football, there is no way it can be grass because they would all be using it in the fall. No teams would be able to practice on it. And we would need at least a year to grow a grass surface that could even potentially hold up to all of our teams, let alone having a major tenant using it as well.

The rugby team does not have a path to being a varsity sport, so its inclusion in the stadium plan is still puzzling to me. If it is a turf stadium, they’ll be gone after a year because no one will want to play them on it.

At Snapdragon they’re grass and are managing to have SDSU football, and the SD Wave (women’s pro soccer) sharing in season, and next year they’ll have to deal with San Diego FC (MLS) all in one season. And then pro rugby during the summer. The maintenance of all that is probably brutal.

Practice certainly would not be able to be held in hornet stadium or the field would actually be dirt by mid season. From all the updates it sounds like there’s still a practice field for football at the practice track and depending on the updates for this new track facility soccer could still practice inside of their infield.

But 4 sports on one field for games in the fall either way is going to be rough! Keep rugby games on grass inside the track facility whatever that may be.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

The rugby team does not have a path to being a varsity sport, so its inclusion in the stadium plan is still puzzling to me. If it is a turf stadium, they’ll be gone after a year because no one will want to play them on it.

I think rugby was mentioned as it is a club sport and part of the student fee was to support club sports, which by nature are open to the general student body. Boiled down, your fee went up and the general student body will benefit because of it.

Personally, I'd rather have a varsity rugby squad that participates and won the National Championship than soccer. But soccer is a requirement of most major conferences today, so there is that need to have it.

I cant see the stadium reverting back to grass. They were spending ~$1M a year in upkeep and with drought always present, using that much water/chemicals will be frowned upon.

 

[Hornet25]

I’ve been going back & forth w some Fresno st fans.
He feels that both sjsu & Reno won’t want us in MWC because they don’t want more competition for athletes in area.
Fresno st thinks we haven’t proven ourselves good enough in FB to deserve chance in PAC.
Those are our roadblocks is what he’s divulged. He’s a bit jealous too big city $$ saying we are being arrogant.
I said not at all. Excited because we’ve waited so F’ing long for this day getting a new FB stadium.
Now we want FBs because we want recreational games & rivalries w FSU / Reno / SJSU because they are travel local areas for fun tailgates etc.

Someone who spends that much time talking about a program they say is irrelevant is afraid.

Oregon State, Boise State and Fresno State fans are exhibiting the most fear and expending a lot of energy trying to disqualify Sac State. Instant rivals. I like it.

 

[Hornet25]

I think rugby was mentioned as it is a club sport and part of the student fee was to support club sports, which by nature are open to the general student body. Boiled down, your fee went up and the general student body will benefit because of it.

Personally, I'd rather have a varsity rugby squad that participates and won the National Championship than soccer. But soccer is a requirement of most major conferences today, so there is that need to have it.

I cant see the stadium reverting back to grass. They were spending ~$1M a year in upkeep and with drought always present, using that much water/chemicals will be frowned upon.

If Sac Republic were to use the field, I would expect they would subsidize field maintenance.

In regards to other sports using the field, our soccer and rugby teams do not have a need for the large capacity, so it's quite possible they wouldn't use the new stadium for all of their matches.

 

[stingthemgood]

Well... the issue here, as I've mentioned before from sources in the Athletic Department, is that the new track facility would take the footprint of the current Soccer and Rugby Fields... So from the Stadium toward Yosemite you'll have -- Stadium - Well - FB Practice field (not wide enough to put a full track there, why they have the one lane loop and the one straight) The John, Parking Structure, Shea Stadium, Track and Field Stadium