clawman said:I saw this on http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forumdisplay.php?2-FCS-Discussion
Interesting speculation - https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/bracketology
AgreedEdubAlum said:clawman said:I saw this on http://www.anygivensaturday.com/forumdisplay.php?2-FCS-Discussion
Interesting speculation - https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/bracketology
re: www.collegesportsmadness.com
EWU or UC Davis will lose this week. whichever way that happens, I don't see a 2 and 5 seed situation for those teams. We can probably get that 5 seed (or higher) but only if we beat UCD in which case there is no way they're a 2. If we lose, we will not be seeded.
marceagfan5 said:We have a shot at a top 4 seed if we win out. We need Weber to lose at ISU next week and we may have a shot at the 2 or 3 seed. Kennesaw losing this week wouldn’t hurt...
Standings through games of 11/3
1. UC Davis 6-0
t2. E Wash 5-1
t2. Idaho St 5-1
t2. Weber St 5-1
All other teams eliminated
Games remaining
UC Davis
@ E Wash (5-1)
Sac St (0-6)
E Wash
UC Davis (6-0)
@ Portland St (3-3)
Idaho St
@ Cal Poly (2-4)
Weber St (5-1)
Weber St
@ S Utah (1-5)
@ Idaho St (5-1)
As we know, the conference considers all teams in 1st place as co-champions. E Wash has the most difficult remaining schedule (based on opponent's records), then ISU, then Weber, then Davis. Davis, EWU, and ISU each have 1 home game and 1 road game remaining. Weber has 0 home games and 2 road games remaining.
Tie breakers are only for the Playoff Auto-Bid. They are as follows:
1. Head-to Head Competition (In event of a three or four team tie, the auto bid will be awarded to the team with the best record against the other tied teams, regardless if all have played each other)
Davis plays EWU 11/10, beat ISU, and does not play Weber
EWU plays Davis 11/10, does not play ISU, and lost to Weber
ISU lost to Davis, does not play EWU, and plays Weber 11/17
Weber does not play Davis, plays ISU 11/17, and beat EWU
2. Record Against Common Conference Opponents In Descending Order
3. Record Against Common Non-Conference Opponents
4. Sagarin Rating
5. Coin Flip
Weber needs help to secure the auto bid. They need Davis to lose this Sat at E Wash, something that is very possible. I don't expect Davis to lose to Sac St, so worst we can expect Davis to finish is 7-1. Weber will need to win out to finish 7-1. Weber winning out would eliminate ISU from Championship and Auto-Bid contention. If Weber and EWU win out we will probably have a three way tie between Davis, EWU, and Weber, all at 7-1. In that scenario, Davis would be 0-1 vs the tied teams, EWU would be 1-1 vs the tied teams, and Weber would be 1-0 vs the tied teams, giving Weber the tiebreaker and the Auto-Bid. Go Weber, and Go Eagles this Saturday!
LDopaPDX said:As much as it pains me, Montana is not *entirely* eliminated from the playoff conversation. They could still finish 7-4. Even then, it would be tight as they would have four FCS losses; they didn't play a Power 5 team this year.
Their best bet would be hoping Idaho State either loses two or finishes 7-4 and then UM would try to splash the cash to get the fourth bid over Idaho State. Idaho State played a Power 5, a transitional FBS (both on the road), and a D2. It would be a weird comparison, because you'd have Montana at 7-4 against FCS schools, and Idaho State at 6-2 against FCS schools. Based on what we saw last year with Eastern and NAU, the playoff committee seemed to want the new blood in the playoffs. I think that would lead me to believe they'd take Idaho State in that scenario.
luckyintheorder said:Interesting update on the Bracketology site... Cat's make it in and Eags, Weber and Davis all get seeded. Awesome.
https://www.collegesportsmadness.com/fcs-football/bracketology
CAA and MVC (after NDSU) are in a jumble. If Weber goes down to ISU (probably a longshot) Eags get a higher seed. All for that.marceagfan5 said:Eags are a lock for a top-five seed if they win Friday. NDSU is the 1...Then I think it’s a mix of Weber, Eastern, Kennesaw, South Dakota state for the next four. Would be nice if Idaho State beat Weber , or Jacksonville State beat Kennesaw next week. I could see us getting the two seed if both those games happen, probably the 4 if neither one happens…
LDopaPDX said:Just throwing this out there, but I don't think the tiebreaker scenario posted above is correct. The tiebreaker would be wins against other co-champs. In which case both Eastern and Weber would have one, UC Davis zero. My guess is with UC Davis eliminated, they'd finish third and Weber would then have the tiebreaker over Eastern with the head-to-head win. Eastern wouldn't be punished for being the only team that played both other co-champs. That almost seems ridiculous to punish the team that played a tougher schedule.
Also, Eastern couldn't have played worse offensively against Weber. I feel pretty confident Eastern beats Weber if they play again. That game was a comedy of errors we couldn't repeat even if we tried.
clawman said:LDopaPDX said:Just throwing this out there, but I don't think the tiebreaker scenario posted above is correct. The tiebreaker would be wins against other co-champs. In which case both Eastern and Weber would have one, UC Davis zero. My guess is with UC Davis eliminated, they'd finish third and Weber would then have the tiebreaker over Eastern with the head-to-head win. Eastern wouldn't be punished for being the only team that played both other co-champs. That almost seems ridiculous to punish the team that played a tougher schedule.
Also, Eastern couldn't have played worse offensively against Weber. I feel pretty confident Eastern beats Weber if they play again. That game was a comedy of errors we couldn't repeat even if we tried.
Because Weber may get the Big Sky automatic berth does not mean they are seeded higher than the Eagles. If we win out and so does Weber we could be the three seed and they are 4 or 5.
What information are you basing your opinion on?marceagfan5 said:clawman said:LDopaPDX said:Just throwing this out there, but I don't think the tiebreaker scenario posted above is correct. The tiebreaker would be wins against other co-champs. In which case both Eastern and Weber would have one, UC Davis zero. My guess is with UC Davis eliminated, they'd finish third and Weber would then have the tiebreaker over Eastern with the head-to-head win. Eastern wouldn't be punished for being the only team that played both other co-champs. That almost seems ridiculous to punish the team that played a tougher schedule.
Also, Eastern couldn't have played worse offensively against Weber. I feel pretty confident Eastern beats Weber if they play again. That game was a comedy of errors we couldn't repeat even if we tried.
Because Weber may get the Big Sky automatic berth does not mean they are seeded higher than the Eagles. If we win out and so does Weber we could be the three seed and they are 4 or 5.
Not a chance that happens. If Weber wins out they’ll be seeded higher...
clawman said:What information are you basing your opinion on?marceagfan5 said:clawman said:LDopaPDX said:Just throwing this out there, but I don't think the tiebreaker scenario posted above is correct. The tiebreaker would be wins against other co-champs. In which case both Eastern and Weber would have one, UC Davis zero. My guess is with UC Davis eliminated, they'd finish third and Weber would then have the tiebreaker over Eastern with the head-to-head win. Eastern wouldn't be punished for being the only team that played both other co-champs. That almost seems ridiculous to punish the team that played a tougher schedule.
Also, Eastern couldn't have played worse offensively against Weber. I feel pretty confident Eastern beats Weber if they play again. That game was a comedy of errors we couldn't repeat even if we tried.
Because Weber may get the Big Sky automatic berth does not mean they are seeded higher than the Eagles. If we win out and so does Weber we could be the three seed and they are 4 or 5.
Not a chance that happens. If Weber wins out they’ll be seeded higher...