Hornet Stadium Renovation 🏟

[GreenArmySwarm]

2025/2026 NEW stadium? :clap:

Looks like there’s funding for a 40+million dollars stadium *renovation* on the books for 2025/2026. :notworthy:

For some perspective, Davis’ Aggie Stadium built in 2007 (14 years ago, so cost is drastically different now) was around 30million. That’s a brand new stadium. So I’d expect Hornet stadium to be gutted and be practically brand new.

The big question is, will we finally move the track into the practice field or somewhere else? Or is the USATF ties to big to overcome?

Where are you seeing this info? Even if true, I don’t see 40M accomplishing much. But at least we’d likely finally have real restrooms and end zone bleachers.

It’s scheduled on both the Sac State and CSU Construction plans. It should be in the link above!
I have hope for this. Davis was able to built a really nice stadium for a $30mil price tag (albeit in 2007). I think $40mil should drastically change Hornet Stadium (that’s not including the 6mil being spent this/next year on the new press boxes )

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

2025/2026 NEW stadium? :clap:

Looks like there’s funding for a 40+million dollars stadium *renovation* on the books for 2025/2026. :notworthy:

For some perspective, Davis’ Aggie Stadium built in 2007 (14 years ago, so cost is drastically different now) was around 30million. That’s a brand new stadium. So I’d expect Hornet stadium to be gutted and be practically brand new.

The big question is, will we finally move the track into the practice field or somewhere else? Or is the USATF ties to big to overcome?

Where are you seeing this info? Even if true, I don’t see 40M accomplishing much. But at least we’d likely finally have real restrooms and end zone bleachers.

$40M might go farther than you think considering the accessibility of of the stadium to the road, minimal ground prep. Once the erector set stands and bathroom trailers were moved, site prep would be practically done.

I think the track would almost have to stay as it's relatively new and the AD probably has dreams of bringing the trials back to Sacramento.

At this price point, a carbon copy of Mackay Stadium (https://www.unr.edu/around-campus/mackay-stadium) would be feasible.

Also, any major stadium upgrade that doesn't involve separating the track and football field is a mistake. There's no reason the practice field can't become the new home to the track and field. There's a track already there. From now on, upgrade that for track and field. Move some of the erector set bleachers over there if they need more seating.

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

2025/2026 NEW stadium? :clap:

Looks like there’s funding for a 40+million dollars stadium *renovation* on the books for 2025/2026. :notworthy:

For some perspective, Davis’ Aggie Stadium built in 2007 (14 years ago, so cost is drastically different now) was around 30million. That’s a brand new stadium. So I’d expect Hornet stadium to be gutted and be practically brand new.

The big question is, will we finally move the track into the practice field or somewhere else? Or is the USATF ties to big to overcome?

Where are you seeing this info? Even if true, I don’t see 40M accomplishing much. But at least we’d likely finally have real restrooms and end zone bleachers.

It’s scheduled on both the Sac State and CSU Construction plans. It should be in the link above!
I have hope for this. Davis was able to built a really nice stadium for a $30mil price tag (albeit in 2007). I think $40mil should drastically change Hornet Stadium (that’s not including the 6mil being spent this/next year on the new press boxes )

I must be blind because I'm not seeing it.

 

[SoCalHornetFan1]

Hope this is true news!!!! Glorious!

If we spent $40m + 6M (press box) and we only upgraded the HOME side of our Stadium! That would be very impressive!

Who cares if visitor side stays erector set.

Home Field Side w $50M can be very nice!!!
Christmas for Hornets fans if this is accurate rumor?

 

[SoCalHornetFan1]

Not sure…. Can the existing track be relocated? Or is it not semi portable with care taken?

 

[GreenArmySwarm]

2025/2026 NEW stadium? :clap:

Looks like there’s funding for a 40+million dollars stadium *renovation* on the books for 2025/2026. :notworthy:

For some perspective, Davis’ Aggie Stadium built in 2007 (14 years ago, so cost is drastically different now) was around 30million. That’s a brand new stadium. So I’d expect Hornet stadium to be gutted and be practically brand new.

The big question is, will we finally move the track into the practice field or somewhere else? Or is the USATF ties to big to overcome?

Where are you seeing this info? Even if true, I don’t see 40M accomplishing much. But at least we’d likely finally have real restrooms and end zone bleachers.

It’s scheduled on both the Sac State and CSU Construction plans. It should be in the link above!
I have hope for this. Davis was able to built a really nice stadium for a $30mil price tag (albeit in 2007). I think $40mil should drastically change Hornet Stadium (that’s not including the 6mil being spent this/next year on the new press boxes )

I must be blind because I'm not seeing it.

Sac State’s Report: Page 5, last list item under “Academic Projects”
https://www.csus.edu/administration-business-affairs/budget-planning/_internal/_documents/22.-construction-projects.pdf

CSU’s Report: Pg 161 for Pressbox Pg 162 for whole stadium
https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/doing-business-with-the-csu/capital-planning-design-construction/Documents/Multi-Year_Plan_2021-2026.pdf

 

[HornetHope]

2025/2026 NEW stadium? :clap:

Looks like there’s funding for a 40+million dollars stadium *renovation* on the books for 2025/2026. :notworthy:

For some perspective, Davis’ Aggie Stadium built in 2007 (14 years ago, so cost is drastically different now) was around 30million. That’s a brand new stadium. So I’d expect Hornet stadium to be gutted and be practically brand new.

The big question is, will we finally move the track into the practice field or somewhere else? Or is the USATF ties to big to overcome?

Where are you seeing this info? Even if true, I don’t see 40M accomplishing much. But at least we’d likely finally have real restrooms and end zone bleachers.

It’s scheduled on both the Sac State and CSU Construction plans. It should be in the link above!
I have hope for this. Davis was able to built a really nice stadium for a $30mil price tag (albeit in 2007). I think $40mil should drastically change Hornet Stadium (that’s not including the 6mil being spent this/next year on the new press boxes )

I must be blind because I'm not seeing it.

Sac State’s Report: Page 5, last list item under “Academic Projects”
https://www.csus.edu/administration-business-affairs/budget-planning/_internal/_documents/22.-construction-projects.pdf

CSU’s Report: Pg 161 for Pressbox Pg 162 for whole stadium
https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/doing-business-with-the-csu/capital-planning-design-construction/Documents/Multi-Year_Plan_2021-2026.pdf

Did you all miss the new Events Center a few lines below the stadium on page 161? At that size it reminds me of another Events Center I am really familiar with. The Events Center shows it is supposed to start 22/23. Look at University of Alaska Anchorage, https://goseawolves.com/sports/2019/7/10/alaska-airlines-center.aspx

 

[GreenArmySwarm]

2025/2026 NEW stadium? :clap:

Looks like there’s funding for a 40+million dollars stadium *renovation* on the books for 2025/2026. :notworthy:

For some perspective, Davis’ Aggie Stadium built in 2007 (14 years ago, so cost is drastically different now) was around 30million. That’s a brand new stadium. So I’d expect Hornet stadium to be gutted and be practically brand new.

The big question is, will we finally move the track into the practice field or somewhere else? Or is the USATF ties to big to overcome?

Where are you seeing this info? Even if true, I don’t see 40M accomplishing much. But at least we’d likely finally have real restrooms and end zone bleachers.

It’s scheduled on both the Sac State and CSU Construction plans. It should be in the link above!
I have hope for this. Davis was able to built a really nice stadium for a $30mil price tag (albeit in 2007). I think $40mil should drastically change Hornet Stadium (that’s not including the 6mil being spent this/next year on the new press boxes )

I must be blind because I'm not seeing it.

Sac State’s Report: Page 5, last list item under “Academic Projects”
https://www.csus.edu/administration-business-affairs/budget-planning/_internal/_documents/22.-construction-projects.pdf

CSU’s Report: Pg 161 for Pressbox Pg 162 for whole stadium
https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/doing-business-with-the-csu/capital-planning-design-construction/Documents/Multi-Year_Plan_2021-2026.pdf

Did you all miss the new Events Center a few lines below the stadium on page 161? At that size it reminds me of another Events Center I am really familiar with. The Events Center shows it is supposed to start 22/23. Look at University of Alaska Anchorage, https://goseawolves.com/sports/2019/7/10/alaska-airlines-center.aspx

We covered the event center earlier in the thread. The funding for it is different from Hornet Stadium and it’s not secured yet

 

[iSac]

Also, any major stadium upgrade that doesn't involve separating the track and football field is a mistake. There's no reason the practice field can't become the new home to the track and field. There's a track already there. From now on, upgrade that for track and field. Move some of the erector set bleachers over there if they need more seating.

Completely agreed about the track. Would love to see a major upgrade, especially if it removed the track. An immersive football game day experience has much more consistent value to the community than Sacramento hosting a major TF meet every few years or even home Hornet TF meets. If $6M is being invested in the press box at the current location, it's hard to see additional investment in moving seating closer to the field. I hope I'm wrong. (Fun to dream though.)

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

Sac State’s Report: Page 5, last list item under “Academic Projects”
https://www.csus.edu/administration-business-affairs/budget-planning/_internal/_documents/22.-construction-projects.pdf

CSU’s Report: Pg 161 for Pressbox Pg 162 for whole stadium
https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/doing-business-with-the-csu/capital-planning-design-construction/Documents/Multi-Year_Plan_2021-2026.pdf

Ok, I see that. But I thought it was just another reference to the press box renovation.

Also, I don't see any reference to it being 40M.

It seems rather vague, so I don't know how you can make much out of it.

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

Also, any major stadium upgrade that doesn't involve separating the track and football field is a mistake. There's no reason the practice field can't become the new home to the track and field. There's a track already there. From now on, upgrade that for track and field. Move some of the erector set bleachers over there if they need more seating.

Completely agreed about the track. Would love to see a major upgrade, especially if it removed the track. An immersive football game day experience has much more consistent value to the community than Sacramento hosting a major TF meet very few years or even home Hornet TF meets. If $6M is being invested in the press box at the current location, it's hard to see additional investment in moving seating closer to the field. I hope I'm wrong. (Fun to dream though.)

I see what you're saying. But if the press box is renovated at it's current location and they eventually relocated the track, couldn't the field just be moved over closer to the home stands? The 8-lane track is roughly 11-yards wide. Slide the field over that same distance or close to it then draw in the visitor side. I realize the field can't literally be slid over, but it can be taken apart and re-installed like it was when they installed the new surface this past year. Not super easy, but shouldn't be super hard either.

And we're talking 4 or so years from now.

 

[superhornet]

Also, any major stadium upgrade that doesn't involve separating the track and football field is a mistake. There's no reason the practice field can't become the new home to the track and field. There's a track already there. From now on, upgrade that for track and field. Move some of the erector set bleachers over there if they need more seating.

As a huge track and field guy, I must respectfully disagree with you here, BHF. While I certainly agree that the "erector set" bleachers and the portables have to go, the track absolutely MUST remain in the stadium. I find that stadia without a track are often so tight on the sideline that it's hard to move around. WA-Griz is a perfect example:

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My biggest issue is that the lack of separation not only limits what you can have on the sideline (benches, comms gear, medical facilities, and the like), if people in the stands get rowdy (admittedly, that's not generally much of an issue at Sac State), the players and staff could be in danger.

That's just from a football perspective. From a track perspective, hosting track in a football stadium means not only more seating (track-only stadia tend to be much smaller), but you can fit more track events in there. If you're a guy who likes to roam between the events, when you have to move stuff like the throws outside the stadium, that's a disincentive for fans to come. We have a history of hosting major events (like the Olympic Trials) at Hornet Stadium, and I'd like to keep that tradition alive.

I won't bore you with my desire to abolish all forms of artificial turf. LOL....

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

How many people show up to a Sac State Track event?

The days of hosting the Nationals or Olympic Trials are dead. Nike just built a $XXXM track-only stadium in Oregon specificially for those events. The chance of Sac ever getting those events again are -0-.

 

[Green Cookie Monster]

Those numbers used for the stadium were in play when Gonzo was here in 2008. Not to bust your bubble, but those 'renovations' to the stadium have been on the books since that time. And the Event Center BS.

I don't think the re-do has magically just appeared because of Nelsen and Taylor and recent success.

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

Also, any major stadium upgrade that doesn't involve separating the track and football field is a mistake. There's no reason the practice field can't become the new home to the track and field. There's a track already there. From now on, upgrade that for track and field. Move some of the erector set bleachers over there if they need more seating.

As a huge track and field guy, I must respectfully disagree with you here, BHF. While I certainly agree that the "erector set" bleachers and the portables have to go, the track absolutely MUST remain in the stadium. I find that stadia without a track are often so tight on the sideline that it's hard to move around. WA-Griz is a perfect example:

..
My biggest issue is that the lack of separation not only limits what you can have on the sideline (benches, comms gear, medical facilities, and the like), if people in the stands get rowdy (admittedly, that's not generally much of an issue at Sac State), the players and staff could be in danger.

That's just from a football perspective. From a track perspective, hosting track in a football stadium means not only more seating (track-only stadia tend to be much smaller), but you can fit more track events in there. If you're a guy who likes to roam between the events, when you have to move stuff like the throws outside the stadium, that's a disincentive for fans to come. We have a history of hosting major events (like the Olympic Trials) at Hornet Stadium, and I'd like to keep that tradition alive.

I won't bore you with my desire to abolish all forms of artificial turf. LOL....

No disrespect, SH, but you are out in left field on this one.

Do you see tracks surrounding any major college programs football stadium? Ohio State? Notre Dame? Alabama?
Do you see tracks surrounding most collegiate football stadiums? Nope. Only those w/o sufficient funds.

The reasons are plentiful. And one of those reasons isn’t because all those schools hate track and field.

You can love track and field all you want. More power to you. But there’s no earthly argument for it needing to be combined w/ the football field. The two sports aren’t mutually exclusive.

And you are of the vast minority that doesn’t believe the entire football game experience to be considerably better w/o the track. Also, the field dimensions don’t have to be as tight as they are in UM’s stadium.

 

[GreenArmySwarm]

Those numbers used for the stadium were in play when Gonzo was here in 2008. Not to bust your bubble, but those 'renovations' to the stadium have been on the books since that time. And the Event Center BS.

I don't think the re-do has magically just appeared because of Nelsen and Taylor and recent success.

Do you have record of this? Would love to see the previous figures

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

How many people show up to a Sac State Track event?

The days of hosting the Nationals or Olympic Trials are dead. Nike just built a $XXXM track-only stadium in Oregon specificially for those events. The chance of Sac ever getting those events again are -0-.

Exactly right.

Not only that, if/when the football stadium is ever improved and if/when the Hornets continue the upward trajectory they’re on — the big track and field events they’d have would never generate the same amount of interest or revenue. Because there’d be far more football games than big track events.

And as you said, the big events are likely to be few and far between anymore as it is.

Even if all of that is untrue, they can still have a separate track and field location on campus capable of supporting whatever fan numbers they’d get. You know, like the vast majority of other college/universities do.

Move that stuff to the practice track/field. Put the erector bleachers over there.

 

[BuckeyeHornetFan]

Those numbers used for the stadium were in play when Gonzo was here in 2008. Not to bust your bubble, but those 'renovations' to the stadium have been on the books since that time. And the Event Center BS.

I don't think the re-do has magically just appeared because of Nelsen and Taylor and recent success.

That’s kinda the answer I was expecting to drop. That’s why I was skeptical from the outset.

To good to be true.

 

[GreenArmySwarm]

Those numbers used for the stadium were in play when Gonzo was here in 2008. Not to bust your bubble, but those 'renovations' to the stadium have been on the books since that time. And the Event Center BS.

I don't think the re-do has magically just appeared because of Nelsen and Taylor and recent success.

That’s kinda the answer I was expecting to drop. That’s why I was skeptical from the outset.

To good to be true.

I could be wrong, I don’t think there’s been any real funding tied in the past like it is now. Would love to see the past reports GCM speaks of to see how it was listed.

The event center has always been a different beast when it comes to the funding the and report made no secret about that.

 

[Kadeezy]

Someone email Orr.