How to beat Oregon....

[Rafter_Reese]

Run the football successfully and we have a chance to win.

I agree. We need to have at least the threat of running the ball. If we can have some early success with play-action, we can freeze the LB's a little which may allow us to run a little bit. I would love it if we got to see some of that freshman breakaway speed we have coming in at RB. Running successfully will help us with clock management which will be another key to keeping it competitive.

go eags!

 

[PDXAnas]

This game has the potential to get really ugly, and not just from a score perspective.

I don't get that. EWU will be playing a _very_ good FBS team, that played for the title last year. EWU can look like an elite FCS team while losing badly.

 

[luckyintheorder]

This game has the potential to get really ugly, and not just from a score perspective.

I don't get that. EWU will be playing a _very_ good FBS team, that played for the title last year. EWU can look like an elite FCS team while losing badly.

This.

Of course, PDXAnas, EWU will play "up" to the level of the opponent as the past has shown. Nothing like being the underdog. Looking forward to seeing our players rise up and show their character in a difficult situation. This has to feel a bit strange to the rest of the Duck team as well. It would to me if I was a contributor on a team that made the title game last year and all the pundits can talk about is a FCS QB transfer and writing like it just "saved" the program. Guess it is an interesting story, just not sure it isn't getting to some of the Duck players too.

 

[kalm]

I do secretly hope to see one monumental game ejecting type of hit on VA by our defensive line.

Shit, the way our DL played last season, I might just settle for a single hit that knocks him down. I worry Oregon might hang 80 on our D if they haven't improved.

Make no mistake, there will be a lot of casual observers to this game. It will be covered nationally because of the VA tie in. It is absolutely imperative on a PR level to play Oregon tough and at least stay in the game. Eastern has a lot of momentum right now, but a lot will be dashed if we show up like a real second level team in this one.

Thanks Debbie. Step away from the keyboard...

PR? F'ing kidding right? No one gives EWU a chance in this one, a loss, even a "bad" loss would not impact the program. Line on one betting site is Oregon gives 35 points... Over/under 110 points. We score 35 and it is a WIN no matter the final game score.

http://www.sportbet.com/lines/football_college

Really? We lose 80-35 and the only headline is "Vernon Adams Accounts for 1000 Yards Against Old Team." That would be terrible PR and tremendously damaging to the psyche of the team. There will be a lot of eyes on this game, and getting embarrassed would be tough to bounce from.

Really. First of all, PR is different than psyche. Who sits around and thinks about someone putting 80 points on our team? You are still living for yesterday about the defense and I for one, would like to see you reserve all those negative emotions until at least after the Montana State game. We have seen eye to eye on the defense in the past, but it is a new day. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Going to leave the "psyche" of the team in the hands of Coach B and staff. If you are at the game, get out of your own way and cheer the team on best you can. Wish I could be there with you to enjoy and cheer on the players in a difficult situation.

I don't think you understand where I'm coming from... I'm not saying our defense will get gashed and look awful. I'm saying this game has as much national interest as any Eastern has ever played, and coming out and getting embarrassed would be worse in this game than in pretty much any other.

The last thing we'd want is for Oregon to jump all over our defense and lose big. It would validate VA's decision to leave and, whether you want to believe it or not, make our kids feel like they can't play with the bigs. The overall damage of an ugly loss here would trump any bad loss in recent memory. I'm not predicting that or saying it will happen, only pointing out that this would be a horrific game to come out flat and get rolled.

This is especially tough knowing Oregon has a history of making teams look bad by running up the score and playing an offensive style that we've never been able to figure out.

Montana State 30 Eastern Washington 7 :mrgreen:

The affect on the player's psyche is the only concern, and that's where leadership from both the players and coaching staff steps in. I still don't see anything else all that negative from a public perception standpoint. VA's success validates the level of talent we recruit and DEVELOP. Like I've mentioned before I'm guessing most college football fans not wearing green and yellow and green and charteuse and green and white and black and silver and pink look at the situation as thievery by Oregon.

And they simply expect us to lose and lose big.

 

[Rafter_Reese]

The more I think about it, the more I think our defensive coaches need to use the same game plan that Ill St. used against us last year in the playoffs. Adams couldn't get ANYTHING going with those deep safeties. They forced us to throw to the flat quite a bit and Adams just couldn't get the job done. After that game I just kept thinking how he got exposed. Makes me think Schmedding might have something up his sleeve. Adams has always thrived buying time with his feet....then throwing the deep 50/50 ball to our receivers that always seemed to make a play. Take the deep ball away from Adams and see what he's got!

go eags!

 

[talon38]

IMO Oregon will RUN RUN RUN the ball until Eastern can show they can stop the RUN. Oregon plays #5 Michigan State the following week and will want to show them NO passing attack what so ever. UW ran all over EWU last year, so Oregon will try and do the same without showing shit to MSU. Stop the run, and Eastern will have a chance to WIN.

 

[clawman1]

IMO Oregon will RUN RUN RUN the ball until Eastern can show they can stop the RUN. Oregon plays #5 Michigan State the following week and will want to show them NO passing attack what so ever. UW ran all over EWU last year, so Oregon will try and do the same without showing shit to MSU. Stop the run, and Eastern will have a chance to WIN.

Or at least slow them down

 

[Rafter_Reese]

IMO Oregon will RUN RUN RUN the ball until Eastern can show they can stop the RUN. Oregon plays #5 Michigan State the following week and will want to show them NO passing attack what so ever. UW ran all over EWU last year, so Oregon will try and do the same without showing shit to MSU. Stop the run, and Eastern will have a chance to WIN.

Unfortunately, RUN RUN RUN will probably be the reality if Oregon is smart. That scares me because running will definitely open up some shots with play action which could leave Oregon receivers running down the field wide-open. I hate the idea of having to put 8 or 9 in the box because then we're just inviting the deep ball with no help from our safeties. Hopefully we disguise some looks with 8 or 9 in the box, get Adams to audible, then bate him into a bad throw for a pick. We need to find a way to turn them over.

go eags!

 

[Hambone]

I've seen some mention of Oregon's secondary being fairly young. I wonder if our line will be able to allow Jordan and company enough time to be able to exploit that matchup some. Wishful thinking?

 

[EWURanger]

I think the line should hold it's own in pass protection. The guys we have starting aren't exactly slouches; all are experienced players. It think it will depend a lot on how much West has improved with his release. I hope we have been working on those back shoulder fades.

 

[GoDucks349]

Royce Freeman will be a load for EWU to stop. I believe he's 5'11" 230 he knows how to hit holes and punish linebackers. If you guys have problems stopping the run, you'll get really tired of seeing him with the ball. He's not really fast 4.6 for the 40, but he's very agile and tough to tackle.

 

[GoDucks349]

Kani Benoit 6' 210# brings a little more speed with a 4.4 40 yd time and he delivers with power. This could be a breakout year for Kani.

 

[EWURanger]

Royce Freeman will be a load for EWU to stop. I believe he's 5'11" 230 he knows how to hit holes and punish linebackers. If you guys have problems stopping the run, you'll get really tired of seeing him with the ball. He's not really fast 4.6 for the 40, but he's very agile and tough to tackle.

Yup. We all know how good Adams is, so I think it's natural for a lot of Eastern fans to be thinking "how do we stop VA?" Well, he's going to make his plays. I'm actually more concerned about our ability to slow down the UO running game. And the reality is, we probably don't slow it down much. We will have to make a ton of plays on offense to be in this thing.

 

[GoDucks349]

Royce Freeman will be a load for EWU to stop. I believe he's 5'11" 230 he knows how to hit holes and punish linebackers. If you guys have problems stopping the run, you'll get really tired of seeing him with the ball. He's not really fast 4.6 for the 40, but he's very agile and tough to tackle.

Yup. We all know how good Adams is, so I think it's natural for a lot of Eastern fans to be thinking "how do we stop VA?" Well, he's going to make his plays. I'm actually more concerned about our ability to slow down the UO running game. And the reality is, we probably don't slow it down much. We will have to make a ton of plays on offense to be in this thing.

And the Oregon defense has been designed to force offenses to make a play EVER down, prevent big plays and force the opponent to consistently make good plays EVER down. Sure give up some yards, but shut them down inside the 20 and force them to go take risks.

 

[EWURanger]

Royce Freeman will be a load for EWU to stop. I believe he's 5'11" 230 he knows how to hit holes and punish linebackers. If you guys have problems stopping the run, you'll get really tired of seeing him with the ball. He's not really fast 4.6 for the 40, but he's very agile and tough to tackle.

Yup. We all know how good Adams is, so I think it's natural for a lot of Eastern fans to be thinking "how do we stop VA?" Well, he's going to make his plays. I'm actually more concerned about our ability to slow down the UO running game. And the reality is, we probably don't slow it down much. We will have to make a ton of plays on offense to be in this thing.

And the Oregon defense has been designed to force offenses to make a play EVER down, prevent big plays and force the opponent to consistently make good plays EVER down. Sure give up some yards, but shut them down inside the 20 and force them to go take risks.

We'll take some risks, to be sure. :lol: I expect the Eags to let it all hang out this Saturday.

 

[GoDucks349]

Royce Freeman will be a load for EWU to stop. I believe he's 5'11" 230 he knows how to hit holes and punish linebackers. If you guys have problems stopping the run, you'll get really tired of seeing him with the ball. He's not really fast 4.6 for the 40, but he's very agile and tough to tackle.

Yup. We all know how good Adams is, so I think it's natural for a lot of Eastern fans to be thinking "how do we stop VA?" Well, he's going to make his plays. I'm actually more concerned about our ability to slow down the UO running game. And the reality is, we probably don't slow it down much. We will have to make a ton of plays on offense to be in this thing.

And the Oregon defense has been designed to force offenses to make a play EVER down, prevent big plays and force the opponent to consistently make good plays EVER down. Sure give up some yards, but shut them down inside the 20 and force them to go take risks.

We'll take some risks, to be sure. :lol: I expect the Eags to let it all hang out this Saturday.

Adams probably won't be asked to run much against EWU, I'd suspect they'll try and pound the ball inside and out and throw mid range passes once the defense starts to cheat to the run. Once one of the speedy WR gets the ball 10-15 yards down field it will be a foot race on occasions.

 

[GoDucks349]

Oregon's defensive line averages about 290 and 6'5" so we'll be giving up some size vs. EWU Oline as I think they average around 300# and 6'4". The Duck defensive line is quick and strong but lacks in size, classic Oregon defense. We'll see how they stack up against a veteran oline, should be interesting to watch.

 

[eaglesfootball]

Oregon's defensive line averages about 290 and 6'5" so we'll be giving up some size vs. EWU Oline as I think they average around 300# and 6'4". The Duck defensive line is quick and strong but lacks in size, classic Oregon defense. We'll see how they stack up against a veteran oline, should be interesting to watch.

that would be a wise game plan for oregon. Don't put too much onto a brand new QB. For Eastern, we have to find a way to limit to's, which will be difficult because i believe we're going to have to put the ball into the air a lot to keep this game respectable. Early to's put us in a big disadvantage when we played UW in 2011 and 2014. even with one fewer TO I think we would have had a tremendous shot to beat them both years.

 

[Seattle Eagle]

Oregon's defensive line averages about 290 and 6'5" so we'll be giving up some size vs. EWU Oline as I think they average around 300# and 6'4". The Duck defensive line is quick and strong but lacks in size, classic Oregon defense. We'll see how they stack up against a veteran oline, should be interesting to watch.

that would be a wise game plan for oregon. Don't put too much onto a brand new QB. For Eastern, we have to find a way to limit to's, which will be difficult because i believe we're going to have to put the ball into the air a lot to keep this game respectable. Early to's put us in a big disadvantage when we played UW in 2011 and 2014. even with one fewer TO I think we would have had a tremendous shot to beat them both years.

We will have to play a perfect game offensively. And as you said, pray for some turnovers.

 

[luckyintheorder]

Oregon's defensive line averages about 290 and 6'5" so we'll be giving up some size vs. EWU Oline as I think they average around 300# and 6'4". The Duck defensive line is quick and strong but lacks in size, classic Oregon defense. We'll see how they stack up against a veteran oline, should be interesting to watch.

that would be a wise game plan for oregon. Don't put too much onto a brand new QB. For Eastern, we have to find a way to limit to's, which will be difficult because i believe we're going to have to put the ball into the air a lot to keep this game respectable. Early to's put us in a big disadvantage when we played UW in 2011 and 2014. even with one fewer TO I think we would have had a tremendous shot to beat them both years.

We will have to play a perfect game offensively. And as you said, pray for some turnovers.

TO's and stops will be a big deal. Oregon will go for it on fourth I believe to set tone and attempt to demoralize the D. I think we will be able to run our "new look" offense efficiently and keep Oregon's D on it's heels. Looking forward to seeing Coach B's tempo changes and wrinkles, especially if EWU is still within shooting distance late third quarter and winning the game looks possible. Filled with JOY.