Inexperienced Staff

[OldGreen67]

Ya, this is my point, lets keep this with Division 1 programs please, we are talking full time coaching position not the RB coach at who gives a crap state but we are talking about our RB coach and recruiting coordinator, oh really going to get the guys we want, puts us in a bad spot, how can we go into a home and say education is important to us and out recruit Davis and Poly

So just did a quick look at a couple teams from our own conference (Portland St, SUU and EWU) and low and behold I already found 2...I think I may have found the 4.686% at the FCS level.

WR Coach SUU
LB coach and Recruiting Coordinator SUU

The FCS is a stepping stone for coaches, maybe coach Ingram is still working on his degree, who knows. All I am saying is that let his performance dictate his employment. So far I am not disappointed in his ability or results. As for him going to houses to recruit players based on educational importance...all the coaches go and recruit, make home visits, etc...I know I would be more impressed with a coach that told me he gave a chance to a guy that has proven to excel at his job versus hiring a guy just because he holds a degree in International Basket Weaving from Stanford.

Just my :twocents:

 

[OldGreen67]

Sorry I know for a fact you must have a BA to coach in college, I don't know how Sperbeck pulled that one off, ok we have Charlie Weis, Charlie Weis also started working and learned at Notre Dame and then worked with the New York Giants, lets not put Sierra College in that same boat,

Well it looks like we are both wrong...based on this old Sac State coaching Profile he started at Cal State Hayward then was finishing up at Sac State in 08...so he was brought on as an Undergaduate...heck maybe he is missing a class, who knows...who cares...

http://www.hornetsports.com/sports/football/coach/bio.asp?COACH_ID=96" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[superhornet]

For me, in terms of college HEAD coaches, ideally you want a guy with BOTH playing/coaching experience AND a MASTER'S degree because he's technically a professor, as OG mentioned. Sometimes, a school will let a guy get away with a bachelor's, but they do so at the risk of the ire of the professors' union. (I would also like to have a HC who at SOME point gets published, as any professor ought. A great example of this is Dr. Marv Levy, who was published in books and journal articles over decades.) Extensive RECENT coaching experience is often required, but CCU is an exception as they hired the former CEO of TD Ameritrade after a more than 20-year hiatus from college coaching (unless one counts a two-year stint at Nebraska in 2009-2010 as "executive advisor to the head coach". He hadn't been a HC since Penncrest High in 1978. To me, that is absolutely DUMB, but they somehow had some success this year, probably due to recruiting from the previous HC. One would also want a former player, but Weis is an example of a guy who found success bypassing that route.

There are exceptions to every rule, but this is one that one had better have VERY good reasons for ignoring.

 

[GoldenEagleHornet]

I would like you to tell me a coach in College that does not have a BA?

Often, when you read a HC's bio, you'll notice that "Alma Mater" will be listed w/out a grad year nor discipline. They beat around the bush by using Alma Mater. Alma Mater means you attended, not necessarily graduated.

 

[SDHornet]

Honestly who really cares if the assistant coaches have a degree or not. Tell me how a degree makes them a better coach? What one quickly learns outside of the classroom is that people can either do or not. It’s that simple. I work in the engineering field and I have worked with bright people that have no degree/minimal classroom time and can get stuff done; and have worked with PhD’s and well educated people that are utterly useless. Having a degree does not mean one is competent, likewise not having one does not make one incompetent. :twocents: