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McNeese State Thread

McBeat said:
Georgia, isn't that a yankee state ;-).

Seriously, you guys need to get together with McNeese and do another home-and-home. I love the pacific northwest and need an excuse for another trip up there.

By the way, how's the Sky looking this year? Montana again?

Welcome to the site McBeat, I sure as hell hope UM doesn't win it again
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NAU seems to be a dark horse, though their fans are changing that real quickly on AGS
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I would like to continue the series, hopefully JG can set that up.
 
McNeese75 said:
Well, it is 10:20 PM here in Lake Charles, the current outside temp is 83 and the humidity is down to a comfortable 74% . High today was 93 but the heat index was around 100 degrees. (And it is not even Summer) The Temps will be in the 96 to 98 degree range in late August and of course the heat index will be higher as well.

Gonna be smokin in September guys /users/31/07/37/smiles/793277.gif

Current Temp in Portland is 61 with 55% humidity /users/31/07/37/smiles/595146.gif

Well if it rains that should level the playing field, and being that I went to the University of Georgia for two years I know that September is one of the wettest months in the South...But really you have us shakin' in our boots:)
 
cut41 said:
McNeese75 said:
Well, it is 10:20 PM here in Lake Charles, the current outside temp is 83 and the humidity is down to a comfortable 74% . High today was 93 but the heat index was around 100 degrees. (And it is not even Summer) The Temps will be in the 96 to 98 degree range in late August and of course the heat index will be higher as well.

Gonna be smokin in September guys /users/31/07/37/smiles/793277.gif

Current Temp in Portland is 61 with 55% humidity /users/31/07/37/smiles/595146.gif

Well if it rains that should level the playing field, and being that I went to the University of Georgia for two years I know that September is one of the wettest months in the South...But really you have us shakin' in our boots:)

The worst case scenario would be for an afternoon thundershower, which are prevelant down here in the summer months, to hit. Because when the sun comes back out and the temp goes back up it is like a fricking steambath.

Doc
 
Now that is a thought Doc. JG could keep the whole team in the steam room for an hour or so and then go out and try to practice /users/31/07/37/smiles/269784.gif
 
PSUVikings said:
McBeat said:
Georgia, isn't that a yankee state ;-).

Seriously, you guys need to get together with McNeese and do another home-and-home. I love the pacific northwest and need an excuse for another trip up there.

By the way, how's the Sky looking this year? Montana again?

Welcome to the site McBeat, I sure as hell hope UM doesn't win it again
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NAU seems to be a dark horse, though their fans are changing that real quickly on AGS
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I would like to continue the series, hopefully JG can set that up.


That really would be nice. I loved the visit in 2004.
 
I have copied a Practical Heat Stress Calculator below that I use to help my workers plan for potential heat stress related illness before each days work. sorry it didn't copy from excel to this website very well, but you can see using last years heat and humity figures at 8
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M cst (an hour after the game started that the adjusted heat index for Lake Charles was 132 °F. Thank God we were in Tampa, where they have wind.

No wind down in "The Hole"

This program took into account the recorded conditions last year;

* Tempature at 8
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M; (87 °F)
* Humity at 8:pm; (80%)
* Solar load (The first hour will be under the sun); (Light)
* Worker Acclimation; (Not acclimated)
* Type of activity/workload (Strenuous )
Task Identifier For the Gulf Coast for September 1, 2006
Physical Parameters of the Task and Environment (Actual or Simulated)

Calculated Parameters of the Heat Stress Model

Heat Index (°F) 102

Heat Index adjustment due to workforce acclimatization + 10°F
Heat Index adjustment due to impact of PPE or other clothing + 0°F
Heat Index adjustment due to the physical workload + 5°F
Heat Index adjustment due to the solar load + 15°F

Heat Stress Interpretation
Adjusted Heat Index = 132 °F

HIGH RISK - Adjusted Heat Index more than 130°F (54°C). Heat stroke very likely Adjusted Heat Index more than 104°F (40°C) and less than 130°F (54°C). Heat cramps or exhaustion likely. Heat stroke possible
Severe Heat Illness Risk Level = High

Recommended Actions
Reschedule activity to a time when the adjusted heat index is lower or find other means to reduce heat load
Allow workers time to acclimate




Reduce the level of physical effort involved in the task
Shade the employees while working and resting
Notes on the Use of this Tool
When measuring Dry Bulb Temperature, be sure to measure the temperature at the point work is being performed in case a heat source greater than ambient temperature is collocated to the work area and impacting the crew.
Individual reactions to heat will vary. Risk levels are determined based upon the responses to heat stress of average males of average fitness level. Individual differences may increase the risk levels and should be considered when evaluating the heat stress risk level.
Chart provides guidelines for assessing the potential severity of heat stress. This chart is not meant to replace heat stress assessments using Wet Bulb Globe Temperature Index or Required Sweat Rate. If the appropriate psychometric measuring capabilities are available, then they should be considered for use and the results considered more accurate than those obtained from the above methodology
References
U.S. National Weather Service
U.S. NIOSH Publication 86-113 “Occupational Exposure to Hot Environments”
HSE RESEARCH REPORT 008 – “The development of a practical heat stress assessment methodology for use in UK industry”, Damian Bethea & Ken Parsons, Department of Human Sciences, Loughborough University
U.S. Army CHPMM – Heat Stress Assessment
 
PSUVikings said:
Oh boy, sounds hot, to bad you guys will have to play in it to /users/31/07/37/smiles/269784.gif

Yea except they're used to it! /users/31/07/37/smiles/246125.gif
 
Wyokie said:
PSUVikings said:
Oh boy, sounds hot, to bad you guys will have to play in it to /users/31/07/37/smiles/269784.gif

Yea except they're used to it! /users/31/07/37/smiles/246125.gif

Who says their all Southern boys? Also they are human, they can be used to it all they want they don't have any special abilities over us because they are used to it.
 
PSUVikings said:
Wyokie said:
PSUVikings said:
Oh boy, sounds hot, to bad you guys will have to play in it to /users/31/07/37/smiles/269784.gif

Yea except they're used to it! /users/31/07/37/smiles/246125.gif

Who says their all Southern boys? Also they are human, they can be used to it all they want they don't have any special abilities over us because they are used to it.

Everyone of our players are from Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi. All players grew up within 3 hours of the Gulf coast.

They were born and raised in the Southern Sauna.

Nothing quite like it anywhere.

Note that the US Army spreadsheet I attached to the MSU web page adds 15 degrees for non-acclimation. 15 degrees is a lot.

our players coaches and trainers deal with this every year, and they start practice in the heat of our warmest month in August.
 
McTailGator said:
PSUVikings said:
Wyokie said:
PSUVikings said:
Oh boy, sounds hot, to bad you guys will have to play in it to /users/31/07/37/smiles/269784.gif

Yea except they're used to it! /users/31/07/37/smiles/246125.gif

Who says their all Southern boys? Also they are human, they can be used to it all they want they don't have any special abilities over us because they are used to it.

Everyone of our players are from Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi. All players grew up within 3 hours of the Gulf coast.

They were born and raised in the Southern Sauna.

Nothing quite like it anywhere.

Note that the US Army spreadsheet I attached to the MSU web page adds 15 degrees for non-acclimation. 15 degrees is a lot.

our players coaches and trainers deal with this every year, and they start practice in the heat of our warmest month in August.

We will see, temperature is a very very small part of football, the game is played on the field not in the Farmers almanac.
 
I've seen many teams from the north venture south thinking they're prepared for the humidity only to suffer through cramping and severe dehydration. I mean it's not uncommon for the big OL and DL's to lose 20-30 lbs if not more in a game from water loss. Preparation is crucial.
 
laxVik said:
I've seen many teams from the north venture south thinking they're prepared for the humidity only to suffer through cramping and severe dehydration. I mean it's not uncommon for the big OL and DL's to lose 20-30 lbs if not more in a game from water loss. Preparation is crucial.

/users/31/07/37/smiles/595146.gif Words from a wise man
 
laxVik said:
I've seen many teams from the north venture south thinking they're prepared for the humidity only to suffer through cramping and severe dehydration. I mean it's not uncommon for the big OL and DL's to lose 20-30 lbs if not more in a game from water loss. Preparation is crucial.

I know during fall practices, all the players have to weigh in and weigh out before and after practice to keep track of fluid loss. I have even heard of players having to take fluids intravenously because of too much fluid loss.

Doc
 
Yeah there's a pretty good book by an ex Oakland Raider trainer (can't recall the title) describing one game against Tampa where one of the OL's lost 40 lbs by halftime. Hard to believe.
 
laxVik said:
Yeah there's a pretty good book by an ex Oakland Raider trainer (can't recall the title) describing one game against Tampa where one of the OL's lost 40 lbs by halftime. Hard to believe.

I remember one game in the mid 90's were Northern Iowa had 4 players on IV's after the game. We had a linebacker that lost 15 lbs that night and was on an IV after the game as well.

It was 92 degrees at 10PM that night. Humidity was up there too. absolutely the worse game I have ever been to in terms of comfort.

Although our 2001 game vs Tx A&M is a close 2nd.
 
laxVik said:
I've seen many teams from the north venture south thinking they're prepared for the humidity only to suffer through cramping and severe dehydration. I mean it's not uncommon for the big OL and DL's to lose 20-30 lbs if not more in a game from water loss. Preparation is crucial.

For some reason it always seems to be the DB's and running backs that seem to cramp up.

But yea it is rough on the big guy's to.
 
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lol who is this?

Glad we could talk this off-season MSU fans, I like opening day opponents like you guys, respectful fans and someone we can learn from, I know a lot more about MSU then I did a year ago.

Not look forward to the OSU fans coming here
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