93bird said:Oh, there's no trouble. The two players who have been charged with rape have been wrongly accused and charged. The fired AD and head football coach were just scapegoats. The NCAA, Department of Education, and Department of Justice are conducting witch hunts that will turn up nothing. The Griz have lost 3 QBs this offseason, but their 4th stringer will lead them to a national championship. Nope, nothing to see here. It's terrible to see what's happening to the Griz, but too many of their fans deny that their problems are systemic. Instead, they blame the victims, media, liberal government, and anybody else they can. And where are all the sanctimonious Griz fans who demeaned their conference institutions? They demand to be aligned with "peer institutions" that share their University's supposed superiority. Eastern, Idaho State, NAU, and the rest just aren't good enough. Well guess what? Payback's a bitch.
Growler1 said:PTGrizzly said:"Not tonight" means no. It doesn't matter if she had said earlier that she wanted to, or if they had been involved sexually before. The minute a girl says "no" or "stop", you stop.
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with you that going ahead with sex after a girl says "not tonight" is grounds for rape. Hell, my wife has said that many times over the years, and I go for it anyway! There are violent rapes, and the stuff that JJ is being charged for. Why didn't the girl cry out to her roommate sitting in the other room if she was being raped?? Give me a break. This chick is gonna ruin a kids life. I got a real problem with that, and you know that I am not easy on criminals. I just know that many of us guys have proceeded to push for sex after a girl says no. Are we all rapists then? If so, they will have to built 500% more prisons to house us all!
Screamin_Eagle174 said:People like this asshole make me sick.
Growler1 said:PTGrizzly said:"Not tonight" means no. It doesn't matter if she had said earlier that she wanted to, or if they had been involved sexually before. The minute a girl says "no" or "stop", you stop.
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with you that going ahead with sex after a girl says "not tonight" is grounds for rape. Hell, my wife has said that many times over the years, and I go for it anyway! There are violent rapes, and the stuff that JJ is being charged for. Why didn't the girl cry out to her roommate sitting in the other room if she was being raped?? Give me a break. This chick is gonna ruin a kids life. I got a real problem with that, and you know that I am not easy on criminals. I just know that many of us guys have proceeded to push for sex after a girl says no. Are we all rapists then? If so, they will have to built 500% more prisons to house us all!
Screamin_Eagle174 said:People like this asshole make me sick.
Growler1 said:PTGrizzly said:"Not tonight" means no. It doesn't matter if she had said earlier that she wanted to, or if they had been involved sexually before. The minute a girl says "no" or "stop", you stop.
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with you that going ahead with sex after a girl says "not tonight" is grounds for rape. Hell, my wife has said that many times over the years, and I go for it anyway! There are violent rapes, and the stuff that JJ is being charged for. Why didn't the girl cry out to her roommate sitting in the other room if she was being raped?? Give me a break. This chick is gonna ruin a kids life. I got a real problem with that, and you know that I am not easy on criminals. I just know that many of us guys have proceeded to push for sex after a girl says no. Are we all rapists then? If so, they will have to built 500% more prisons to house us all!
LDopaPDX said:The Griz haven't been a QB-dependent team for quite a while. I think they'll come out of this fine. I seriously don't think they'll suddenly become a 6-5 team or worse because of this. Thier defense is still good and they ran the ball all over our defense last year even when we were healthy.
Screamin_Eagle174 said:LDopaPDX said:The Griz haven't been a QB-dependent team for quite a while. I think they'll come out of this fine. I seriously don't think they'll suddenly become a 6-5 team or worse because of this. Thier defense is still good and they ran the ball all over our defense last year even when we were healthy.
The Griz will have 8 or 9 new starters on defense. Also, pretty much everyone ran all over us last year.
EWURanger said:Screamin_Eagle174 said:LDopaPDX said:The Griz haven't been a QB-dependent team for quite a while. I think they'll come out of this fine. I seriously don't think they'll suddenly become a 6-5 team or worse because of this. Thier defense is still good and they ran the ball all over our defense last year even when we were healthy.
The Griz will have 8 or 9 new starters on defense. Also, pretty much everyone ran all over us last year.
Exactly, and this is exactly what UI will try to do to us. And if our run defense hasn't improved significantly since last season, they'll be successful doing it. They'll make every attempt possible to keep our receivers off the field.
On the eve of the trial, former U.S. Rep. Pat Williams, who is now on the board that oversees Montana's university system, said UM is recruiting "thugs" for its football team.
The Democrat made his comments in a Thursday New York Times story, then repeated them in an interview with Missoula radio station KGVO-AM. He said there have been too many UM athletes convicted or suspended over rapes, assaults or burglaries during the past year.
Williams said he was not speaking about Johnson.
"We need a better recruiting system because the current recruiting system is letting in too many thugs. And that has to stop," Williams told the station. "As a member of the Board of Regents, I intend to do what I can to make sure that this very limited thuggery stops."
Agreed. It's all one big ugly mess, for all parties involved. hno:EWURanger said:Geez, what a shit-show. As much as I dislike the Griz football program, I think it's kinda BS how political this whole thing has become. While I do believe that somewhat of a "win at all costs" culture has existed there for a while, all the sensationalism and politicizing that the media has done isn't fair to the majority of their student-athletes that have been doing the right thing.