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New HC Blind Hopes and Wishes
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Kadeezy
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Message Board Hypotheticals...
Scenario 1:
We go 11-1 this season, losing in the National Championship in Nashville, TN to NDSU. Arizona finishes an abysmal season at 2-10 and immediately Hires Brennan Marion as HC. Marion brings much of his staff with him to UofA, as well as the Walter Payton Award winner Jaden Rashada. How do you fill the HC vacancy?
Scenario 2:
We go 5-7 this season, an FBS opportunity never materializes, nor do solid stadium plans. Marion accepts the OC position at Pitt. Guys entering portal left and right, pure chaos. What do we do?
What would you plan for if this is a one and done season for Marion? I'd be inclined to do whatever it took to keep either Merchant or Patterson on board as a HC for continuity's sake in either scenario. The wildcard in a Marion departure scenario??? Troy Taylor, lurking in the shadows eager for a second chance... which I would 100 give to him lol.
Scenario 1:
We go 11-1 this season, losing in the National Championship in Nashville, TN to NDSU. Arizona finishes an abysmal season at 2-10 and immediately Hires Brennan Marion as HC. Marion brings much of his staff with him to UofA, as well as the Walter Payton Award winner Jaden Rashada. How do you fill the HC vacancy?
Scenario 2:
We go 5-7 this season, an FBS opportunity never materializes, nor do solid stadium plans. Marion accepts the OC position at Pitt. Guys entering portal left and right, pure chaos. What do we do?
What would you plan for if this is a one and done season for Marion? I'd be inclined to do whatever it took to keep either Merchant or Patterson on board as a HC for continuity's sake in either scenario. The wildcard in a Marion departure scenario??? Troy Taylor, lurking in the shadows eager for a second chance... which I would 100 give to him lol.
stingthemgood
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This is Docs vision at this stage -- not Orr's -- so it would be an even bigger name hire that could get this done to go along Bibby - who we all know won't get a one and done callup. So ex NFLers first coaching gig or big flashy coordinator with buzz.
I think the one thing that the fireworks showed me over the weekend is that the Athletic Department is based primarily on that at the moment. Fireworks. We need someone who brings excitement and positive buzz to the job.
Troy Taylor will never be at Sac State again so long as Dr. Wood is still the President.
I think Scenario 3 -- What happens if Dr. Wood leaves for a bigger University. That is the question. I'm not sure we would get blessed with a third straight "Athletics is the door step of the university" President. In fact, we might get the Sonoma State trim if we aren't careful.
Essential the point here is -- these next three years needs to go just right or the Athletic Department could be in trouble. We are taking BIG swings. If they end up being misses, the next President might come with a machete.
HeavyistheClown
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All you people giddy with the Big Worst move this is the eventual scenario. Department is already postering so that if all this FBS fails and we are stuck with a lame duck football program it is easy to chop and sink into the CSU commuter campus conference. At least in the Big Sty, football was a mandate for membership. It insulated the program by requiring it to exist.
But people are happy with playing Bakersfield State in soccer and Foolerton in baseball and staying in the local Motel 6.
If this move was so magical why did Davis leave?
But people are happy with playing Bakersfield State in soccer and Foolerton in baseball and staying in the local Motel 6.
If this move was so magical why did Davis leave?
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HeavyistheClown
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Season is less than 60 days away. Has the admin bought the whirly lights and whooppee cushions on Amazon Prime day yet? Or do they need to present to ASI for approval first?
Not getting all the hate on the Marion hire. Yeah he has optics and a swagger that some folks won't ever get or accept and as evident by his staff hires and recruiting success, he and his staff connects with the culture of the younger generation. Couple that with a President that wants to invest in the program and make noise and you get what we currently have observed.
As far as on the field goes, he was an up and comer coordinator in the FBS ranks that took UNLV to back to back MW conference championships. In fact, prior to Marion's offenses, UNLV had only 2 other winning seasons this millennia, 2000 (7-5, LV Bowl win) and 2013 (7-6 Dallas Bowl loss).
Time will tell if his FBS OC experience will translate to FCS head coach success, but given the talent he and his staff has brought I think odds are high that he will succeed here. If Coach Marion lives up to the hype, he won't be here after this season and I don't think the FBS waiver would make a difference.
As far as on the field goes, he was an up and comer coordinator in the FBS ranks that took UNLV to back to back MW conference championships. In fact, prior to Marion's offenses, UNLV had only 2 other winning seasons this millennia, 2000 (7-5, LV Bowl win) and 2013 (7-6 Dallas Bowl loss).
Time will tell if his FBS OC experience will translate to FCS head coach success, but given the talent he and his staff has brought I think odds are high that he will succeed here. If Coach Marion lives up to the hype, he won't be here after this season and I don't think the FBS waiver would make a difference.
OldSchoolHornet
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SD...I sure wish you were wrong about some of what you said but it's doubtful that you are.
Solid post.
Solid post.
HornetFootballFan
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If Marion wins a Nstl championship I’m okay with him leaving.
That success along w previous Troy Taylor’s success show SAC ST potential to compete at the highest level of CFB.
I read he’s being paid $750K season which is a solid salary. If we get bought out for his contract those are good dollars back into our account for the next HC.
If both BB (ncaa march madness playoffs) and Football playoffs championship game or quarterfinal it will be great overall season Hornet sports.
As long as AD Orr stays on point we are good. He’s doing a great job in my opinion. Best AD in history of hornet sports possibly?
It doesn't matter what you're ok with. All of this recruiting noise has built up his profile even more. Can't help but wonder what kind of talent he would pull at a program with real NIL infrastructure and facilities. Unless this team fails miserably this season (it won't), odds are that Coach Marion will be off to a bigger and better place with a sizeable bag in hand before this Christmas.
On the flip side, Marion did say this is the first administration that allowed him to be himself. Wear cowboy hats and shoes and show his tattoos. Freedom to hire who he wants and post what he wants on social media.
Would other programs give him the freedom and could he flourish without that freedom? Most places want you to conform.
There was a comparison to Deion Sanders, but it is not the same. Sanders had no coaching experience, coming in with his HOF credentials. He was and still is given a hard time because he expresses himself just like he did on the field. Confidence and flare. But he still has his NFL career resume supporting him.
Marion has confidence and flare, but will he be given even the slightest bit of grace without having Sanders HOF career ? I'm not so sure. That is something Marion will have to consider.
Would other programs give him the freedom and could he flourish without that freedom? Most places want you to conform.
There was a comparison to Deion Sanders, but it is not the same. Sanders had no coaching experience, coming in with his HOF credentials. He was and still is given a hard time because he expresses himself just like he did on the field. Confidence and flare. But he still has his NFL career resume supporting him.
Marion has confidence and flare, but will he be given even the slightest bit of grace without having Sanders HOF career ? I'm not so sure. That is something Marion will have to consider.
He has put it 2ft away from your face. 'One good year can change your life', it is his mantra and code. If he has a good year, he is gone.
Kadeezy
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Honestly, I am okay with this. Have a great year, build the brand, and he goes after a 10 win season? I’m happy. This staff is so robust, we have enough to keep continuity.
OldSchoolHornet
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GCM...I was wondering how long it was going to take someone to post this...and yet there are going to be people act surprised and pissed off when he leaves after a year.
Kadeezy
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Really, all it's going to take is for Timmy Chang (UH), Sean Lewis (SDSU), or Jay Norvell (CSU) to bottom out bigly, combined with a decent season from Sac State and we have to be prepared to lose Marion and a lot of talent. But, this admin is still all in, and I'm confident it will be a hot job and landing spot for players and coaches alike if we are on the hunt again.
I don’t believe Coach Marion would leave President Wood high and dry. First, the other MTN West jobs aren’t Marion’s aim, he would leave for a P4 school, life changing money like Taylor. But even in that case, I believe he’d leave Coach Merch here others to keep the momentum going. Anyways, I have never seen a season with so much boom on bust implications
Kadeezy
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Oh, he would 100% leave us high and dry LOL. I agree with you on boom or bust though!
OldSchoolHornet
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I don't think Coach Marion is too concerned about leaving Dr. Wood high and dry. The first time I met Marion he made it clear that he was here because he believed in Wood's vision and if he delivered there would be no reason for him to leave anytime soon. Completely supposition on my part, but I believe if the president doesn't deliver Marion will take his Go Go brand and leave for the next opportunity...and there will most definitely be one.
