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And why is he trying to influence any of the players to go elsewhere? Yes, their coach who recruited them is gone but they may prefer the one coming in at least as much. He shouldn't be trying to influence impressionable young minds away to create more work and expense for the program.

The tone of the article is so reminiscent of the bizarre idea that some screwballs in Oregon have been wanting to keep PSU in a permanent underclass position, that that is the proper social order somehow. What? Portland's public university should be the underclass school? What sense does that make? We may have a lot of working-class students, but they work and they're upwardly-mobile.

Look to University of Cincinnati, Wayne State in Detroit, University of Pittsburgh. These are good models of PSU potential, and not what these loony-tunes appear to have in mind. As responsible citizens, we prefer to do our part and contribute to create value and not destroy it. PSU can become a very fine university like these. We can even become a "public Carnegie-Mellon." We've invested far too much into it not to. At this point, we just need to keep this kind of riff-raff influence at bay.
 
BroadwayVik said:
And why is he trying to influence any of the players to go elsewhere? Yes, their coach who recruited them is gone but they may prefer the one coming in at least as much. He shouldn't be trying to influence impressionable young minds away to create more work and expense for the program.

The tone of the article is so reminiscent of the bizarre idea that some screwballs in Oregon have been wanting to keep PSU in a permanent underclass position, that that is the proper social order somehow. What? Portland's public university should be the underclass school? What sense does that make? We may have a lot of working-class students, but they work and they're upwardly-mobile.

Look to University of Cincinnati, Wayne State in Detroit, University of Pittsburgh. These are good models of PSU potential, and not what these loony-tunes appear to have in mind. As responsible citizens, we prefer to do our part and contribute to create value and not destroy it. PSU can become a very fine university like these. We can even become a "public Carnegie-Mellon." We've invested far too much into it not to. At this point, we just need to keep this kind of riff-raff influence at bay.

I didn't get that at all in the article. Whenever a coach is let go, the athletic department does their best to let the new recruits be informed about the situation because they can ask the school to be released from their commitment and look elsewhere. The information about Woods and Grand Canyon actually came from the Arizona Republic, and not really much there about him not honoring his commitment to PSU. Here's the link.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/high-school/2017/03/15/apollo-g-holland-woods-re-evaluating-portland-state-after-coach-fired/99231030/

It is important to get this hiring right for the future of men's basketball at PSU. At the same time, the new kids coming in must be retained and informed. Actually, the ones returning must be informed as well. The transition must be as smooth as possible for all involved.
 
Thanks for the gentle, soothing response. I do hope our next coach is someone who will be an influence to help Holland Woods prefer to stay. I hope the new coach will wish to retain Jase Coburn as he sounds like a great hire.

But it does seem, way too often than not, that the local media are "not in PSU's corner," even opposing them at times, and I think that is reprehensible. We should never let them off the hook for the loutish disposition they maintain toward this potentially very fine university.

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BroadwayVik said:
Thanks for the gentle, soothing response. I do hope our next coach is someone who will be an influence to help Holland Woods prefer to stay. I hope the new coach will wish to retain Jase Coburn as he sounds like a great hire.

But it does seem, way too often than not, that the local media are "not in PSU's corner," even opposing them at times, and I think that is reprehensible. We should never let them off the hook for the loutish disposition they maintain toward this potentially very fine university.

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They are reporters. They are supposed to tell us what is going on, what the possibilities are. They aren't supposed to act like University PR staff by spinning the news for the benefit of the athletic department.
 
Reporters report for subscribers who live in a particular area. A newspaper called the Portland Tribune or Oregonian is not likely to be read much outside of Oregon, or even the Portland area for that matter. They report on stories that are clearly intended to support the Oregon bias, e.g. Reasons Why Oregon is Better than Michigan (pre-game Tournament trash talk), The Oregon Way of Doing Things (to all you newcomers out there), etc.

There is clearly a pro-Portland, pro-Oregon bias in their reporting, defending Portland protest marches, whatever stance Kate Brown takes, etc. There is a definite favorable bias in covering Oregon and Oregon State, but that bias is most often lacking, and even downright unfavorable, when it comes to Portland State. Surely, you've noticed. Not just this story, but thousands like it.

There is a certain tone, a tonality, the stories take on that absolutely discounts the university to a level smacking of shame. Really, it is a destructive influence in terms of manipulating the university's local perception. Therein lies its real danger -- it's really not worth supporting, folks. Not "a place with much of a future," but "an underclass university" for an "underclass clientele," one we're not really proud of and do not wish to associate with or claim as our own. An orphan unloved and sanctioned.

It is a destructive bias. It creates more obstacles than would occur naturally for its development. But we simply need to fight those who have made themselves our political enemies and fight on in a war of attrition. They do act as PR (propaganda) specialists, and when it comes to withstanding such media louts, we do best to remain stalwart Vikings.
 
Your take on the media is disheartening. Bias, especially these days, is often in the mind of the beholder, i.e., still think the Tribune story on our coaching search was a pretty good story.
 
BroadwayVik said:
But it does seem, way too often than not, that the local media are "not in PSU's corner," even opposing them at times, and I think that is reprehensible. We should never let them off the hook for the loutish disposition they maintain toward this potentially very fine university.

This is true, they are not in our "corner" but they are getting better. In the past I found it amazing how the Portland media would not report on PSU athletics at all, only talking about the demise of football, and how PSU should return to DII or DIII. I used to joke with my Duck co-workers that I could find out what Chip Kelly had for breakfast that day with no effort, yet trying to dig up a 2-deep roster for PSU football was impossible. But with the success of the football program, and the idea that "BarnyBall" can continue, the Portland media is waking up and realizing this gem of a university they have overlooked for nearly a full generation is still alive and growing. Sure there are still issues around here, and we are addressing those issues, but they were never as big as the Portland media made them out to be. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh are fine institutions and both would be great models for PSU to follow. But they both do rely on athletics (and they both do have rich athletic traditions) to at least get students to look at them and what they have to offer, and this is what a strong athletic program can do for PSU.

The media should report what they see and leave the interpreting to the reader, but the Portland media will slant their reporting one way or another, causing an uproar from Duck fans, Beaver fans or Blazer fans. But I guess it shows they have an interest in the success of those programs, that they can "foster discussion" off of their story (and consequently, get more "hits"). When someone within the Portland media tries to do the same with a PSU story, even if I don't agree with it (or actually in this case, things that were mentioned mainly here in this forum), I have to applaud the effort. It does show that our basketball program, currently in transition form one coach to another, has the interest of some people in the local media. When I hear Mike Montgomery ask a Portland radio host about the PSU job, that shows me there is interest in this PSU topic even outside our city and that has to be good for the university as well.
 
As long as I've been around PSC/U (amazing, that's 52 years) we've had moans about media coverage of PSU, and I've done my share of them. BUT face it. The issue is profit, and its only become clearer. The Oregonian blatantly covers UO/OSU because Pac12 sells ads. It's big business. If they were to cover PSU as thoroughly would it create ads? Maybe - but why take the chance? When we win more and pull in more fans coverage will improve, though I'd guess not by much. The Trib is different. It focuses on Portland Metro entirely. It's been covering us pretty well over the last couple years, all things considered.
 
Portland State Vikings zero in on basketball coach hire, target Greg Clink

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2017/03/portland_state_zeroes_in_on_ba.html#incart_river_index

Portland State has zeroed in on Chico State basketball coach Greg Clink in the early stages of its search for the next Vikings basketball coach, The Oregonian has learned.
Clink, at Chico State for the last nine seasons, is coming off a 26-8 campaign in which he took the Wildcats to the Division II Elite Eight. His overall record: 177-95. He has three conference championships and two regional championships in that span. He is also a former assistant at UC Santa Barbara and UC Davis.
Reached on Friday evening, PSU athletic director Valerie Cleary would not confirm that she's contacted Clink, but said, "I'm excited about the pool of candidates we have at this point... my job now is to find the coach who is the best fit for Portland State."
The Vikings have also contacted Northwest Christian University coach Luke Jackson, per a source close to the search. The former Oregon Ducks star finished with a 25-6 record this season as coach at the NAIA Division II college.
Portland State parted ways with coach Tyler Geving earlier this month. In eight seasons, Geving  was 112-133 and reached the Big Sky Tournament semifinals three times.
The $50 million Viking Pavilion, a multi-purpose venue for Portland State and OHSU, is currently under construction. It will seat 5,000 and be the site of Vikings home basketball games. It should boost interest in the Big Sky Conference job.
Former 1977 Trail Blazer Johnny Davis said this week that he was interested in being interviewed. Davis last coached in the NBA in 2014 as an assistant with the Lakers. Former Trail Blazers assistant Dean Demopoulos, currently a professional head coach in Australia, is also believed to be a potential candidate.
 
Chico State’s Clink the target for openings elsewhere for schools’ basketball head coach

http://www.orovillemr.com/sports/20170324/chico-states-clink-the-target-for-openings-elsewhere-for-schools-basketball-head-coach

The Chico State men’s basketball team reached the Elite Eight for the second time in four seasons this year, and that kind of success at Division II has not gone unnoticed.
Now, the heights the program has reached might cost the Wildcats their head coach as Greg Clink has drawn interest for other schools’ openings, per an Oregonian report that was confirmed by Clink himself Friday night.
Portland State — a D-I program that competes in the Big Sky Conference with the likes of Sacramento State among others — has reportedly made Clink the top target to take over the Vikings, Oregonian columnist John Canzano reported.

Later Friday night, Clink responded by email that Portland State has indeed reached out to him about taking over the program.
“It is very flattering,” Clink wrote. “I don’t think it is appropriate to comment beyond that because it is all just very early.”
Another job opening at UC Santa Barbara could be a possibility for Clink. He served as an assistant there for two seasons under Bob Williams, who was not retained by the Gauchos after 19 seasons.
Clink texted that there was “nothing really to report on” UCSB.

The Gauchos compete in the Big West Conference, which sent UC Davis to the NCAA Tournament this season. Clink twice served as an Aggies assistant, too, the last time before he was hired at Chico State in April of 2008 to become the school’s 11th head coach in program history.
Clink guided the Wildcats back to the Elite Eight this season after a postseason run there in 2014. In between, the Wildcats won consecutive California Collegiate Athletic Association regular-season titles to continue a run of West Region berths. Chico State won the CCAA three times in a five-year span and have a West Region-best six straight years of reaching the postseason.

The Wildcats also finished with a 26-8 record this season for the most victories in the program’s history that stretches back a little more than a century.
In nine seasons with the Wildcats, Clink has a 177-95 record and led them to the Elite Eight for the only two times in their history.
Clink graduated from Chico State in 1994 after playing for then-head coach Puck Smith for three seasons in the early 1990s.
With his coaching success, it’s no wonder Clink is drawing interest from outside Acker Gym. But if Clink does stay with the Wildcats, he’ll have a team that returns four starters and all but two players from its rotation. Chico State reached the Elite Eight with two seniors in Robert Duncan and Michael Bethea Jr. Portland State did not retain head coach Tyler Geving after eight seasons despite having two years remaining on his contract. The Vikings went 15-16 overall and 7-11 in the Big Sky, tying for eighth place in the 12-team conference.
UCSB went 6-22 this season including 4-12 in the Big West, finishing last among nine teams.
Canzano, the Oregonian columnist who first reported Portland State’s interest in Clink, even has Chico State ties as a former baseball player at the school in the early 1990s.
 
I can hear the comparisons now ...

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........Coach Greg Clink.................."Colonel Klink"..........

I'm sure he's a fine coach, though, but that's what we'd be up against for the next program chapter. One positive would be that the band could play the theme song to Hogan's Heroes when the Viks took the floor.

It could be really fun to laugh at ourselves a bit and just have fun with it. Creates a whole genre.
 
Canzano likes talking his guys up whenever there is an opening in the area. Makes sense he would pull Clink's name out. Both he and Clink are Chico State guys. There could be some fire here, or Canzano could just be blowing smoke (not doing anything different than what we all are doing).

It would be nice to have some reliable source for information for PSU athletics in Portland. Otherwise, just about every Portland media person offers up their take on who we should hire. But, maybe that is a good thing in that it forces them to talk about us.
 
I'm glad that I am not in our AD's position. She is recruiting, with an architect's rendering, a meager purse, and no home court for at least a season, to school with only a handful of memorable seasons and that plays in one of the worst D1 conferences. I offer my condolences, however I do also wish the best of luck in finding a coach the will be successful at PSU.
 
bigskyconf said:
Canzano likes talking his guys up whenever there is an opening in the area. Makes sense he would pull Clink's name out. Both he and Clink are Chico State guys. There could be some fire here, or Canzano could just be blowing smoke (not doing anything different than what we all are doing).

It would be nice to have some reliable source for information for PSU athletics in Portland. Otherwise, just about every Portland media person offers up their take on who we should hire. But, maybe that is a good thing in that it forces them to talk about us.

Good point about Canzano pushing who he thinks would be a "good story." He was pretty sure that Speckman was the answer for football when Glanville resigned. If I recall, Canzano knew Speckman from his early days in California.
 
I have heard that Greg Clink, head coach at DII Chico St. has been interviewed...he has done a great job at Chico...he would be good hire for you guys too...
 
At this point, it would be wise for Cleary to wait until after the Final Four. Next weekend in Phoenix is considered to be like a DI coaches "job fair", where AD's who have a job opening are generally in the same area as those coaches who are striving for a DI job. Sounds like she has an idea of a "good fit" for PSU, so head down there and see who would fit the bill. Best way to do this, I would think. :twocents:
 
It looks like it may still be an open position. Canzano is definitely pushing for Clink, who seems to be a great coach. Myself, I pulling for Luke Jackson, but I just want the best candidate period to be hired. The candidate pool looks to be really a high quality group. My guess is the new Viking Pavilion is making this job much more attractive position than most people thought:


http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/351664-231297-best-ducks-day-ever

• Portland State athletic director Val Cleary has begun talks with a group of potential candidates for the Vikings' vacant basketball head coaching job. But Cleary seems at least a couple of weeks away from hiring a replacement for Tyler Geving, who was fired after eight years on the job.
Among the candidates who have spoken with Cleary: Chico State's Greg Clink and Northwest Christian's Luke Jackson.
Clink, 46, coached the Wildcats to a 26-8 record and reached the NCAA Division II Elite Eight this season. He owns a record of 177-95 over nine seasons. Chico State is Clink's alma mater — as it is Cleary's.
Jackson, 35, coached Northwest Christian to a 25-6 record this season. Jackson is 88-38 in four seasons with the Beacons, taking them to the NAIA Division II national tournament three times in four years. He spoke with Cleary at length Friday night.

"I've been coveting the Portland State job for a few years," says Jackson, the former Oregon standout who played four seasons in the NBA. "I really want that job. It could turn into something really special pretty quick. I think I could get the school and the community pretty excited about it."
Among others who should draw interest from the Vikings: Former Oregon State, Washington and University of Portland assistant coach Jim Shaw, now head coach at Western Oregon, and Orlando Magic assistant coach David Adelman, son of Rick Adelman and in his sixth year as an NBA assistant.
 
It looks like most of the candidates have a connection to the Portland through either somebody they know or having actually lived or worked in the area.

Out of all those listed, I like Luke Jackson, because he actually wants the job.
 
Good point. He is invested emotionally. He has what psychologists call ...

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He could well bring youthful vitality to the program, curious community interest and, of course, a great desire to make his own mark. This is what I would expect of him. The program would well serve as a catalytic stepping stone for his coaching career. He and Luke Ridenour (the "two Lukes") were an amazing pair whose drive and talent was largely responsible for taking Oregon to the Elite Eight. He's certainly a winner. Oh, there's Freddy Jones. Don't forget about him.

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I get the feeling that Valerie C is going about this methodically and we will all need to give her space on this, not rush her as this is her first important hire. She needs to do this according to how she best sees how to go about it. If Luke J is indeed the answer, it will be revealed at the end of her process. She's a people person, she cares about PSU's development and she wants to make a great hire that will go down in her personal AD history as a "Burman hire" or, possibly, even better. I'm sure he would wish her well.

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BTW, wasn't he the one who hired Heath Schroyer, current assistant at North Carolina State? Also, in football, whatever happened to the Viking Walk? It was the basis of a fine pre-game tradition.
 

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