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Phantom Hornet
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I knew it, we finally win a championship and the whole friggen world ends!
Well, if this is it, at least we went out on top!!
....and having beat Davis.
Well, if this is it, at least we went out on top!!
....and having beat Davis.
BS, kids will transfer out of Kalifornia. I bet we see a few on the transfer portal trying to get to a state that is sane. This will be the death knoll for college sports as we know it today. Big money being lost.
Phantom Hornet said:
Same thing crossed my mind. :lol:
The frustrating thing is the data isn't there to warrant the continuation of the shutdown. The “first death” in the state (Santa Clara County if I recall correctly) was traced to early Feb. That means this virus was circulating the Bay Area for a good 3 months before the shutdowns went into place. Then once shutdown, you still had the unwashed masses congregating at their local super markets, Walmarts, Targets, and Costco’s. San Francisco is the 2nd most dense city in the country (behind NYC) and only has 35 deaths and just under 2k total cases (per Worldometer) in a population of almost 890k.
Looking at all of the Bay Area (SF, Alameda, Santa Clara, Contra Costa, Marin, San Mateo, Sanoma, Napa, Solano) you have a total of 368 deaths and 10,089 cases for a population of 7.7M. Sorry, but the bodies just aren’t there to justify a continued lockdown. I can see an argument for keeping LA County and its neighboring counties shutdown (1,613 of CA’s 2,876 deaths and 33k cases of the 71k per Worldometer as of yesterday), but even that gets absurd when you consider LA County’s population of 10.1M.
:rant:
Green Cookie Monster said:
I don't know why incoming freshmen just opt to go to their local JC for free instead of CSU/UC (I'm sure the UC system will follow suit) with this announcement. You'd be paying a lot of money to get your classes over the internet. Doesn't see worth it imo.
iSac
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:lol:Kadeezy said:
Cal State East Bay, Chico State, and California Collegiate Athletic Association (CCAA) announced no Fall sports.
https://eastbaypioneers.com/news/2020/5/12/general-fall-semester-of-intercollegiate-athletics-canceled.aspx
Really disappointing how far this is going, with little end in sight.
SDHornet said:
Student lawsuit wants to strip off fees for not having full experience. Those fees are what keep the department afloat!
SDHornet said:
This is more about health. It is a decisive action by the State to drive out private business and enable more socialist societal control. If everyone has to drink from the State teet (unemployment, welfare), then they control policy, commerce, freedom.
You voted for these clowns.
Phantom Hornet
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Green Cookie Monster said:
JHC, are we really gonna do this here? Your board but if this is how you want to play it, be my guest. I'll go ahead and bid ya'll adieu and best of luck. I can run over to Fox News for this shit.
Green Laser
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The JCs are going online too so their fall sports are also in doubt. The state D2s have cancelled their fall sports. Let's hope that something can be worked out before the fall.
I can't see all the CSU's not playing in the fall, especially Fresno, San Diego and San Jose too much at stake. This would be a disaster for the state, there has to ways to mitigate the crisis and getting back to somewhat normal without completely shutting down the whole state. Hopefully there will be enough push back for these idiot politicians to realize that we have had enough of their overreaction..
I can't see all the CSU's not playing in the fall, especially Fresno, San Diego and San Jose too much at stake. This would be a disaster for the state, there has to ways to mitigate the crisis and getting back to somewhat normal without completely shutting down the whole state. Hopefully there will be enough push back for these idiot politicians to realize that we have had enough of their overreaction..
CA is already in a deep hole due to this self inflicted shutdown (roughly a 25% shortfall of the 2020 budget). The way this keeps dragging on, I don't see a lot of small businesses coming back from this.
I would like to keep this issue/discussion from divulging into a political one, but the fact that Newsom is going to mail ballots to every registered voter via executive fiat means the political aspect of this are front and center. If this shutdown was going to end anytime soon (just "2 more weeks" guys), why would Newsom make such a move?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/california-faces-a-staggering-54-billion-budget-deficit-due-to-economic-devastation-from-coronavirus.html
I would like to keep this issue/discussion from divulging into a political one, but the fact that Newsom is going to mail ballots to every registered voter via executive fiat means the political aspect of this are front and center. If this shutdown was going to end anytime soon (just "2 more weeks" guys), why would Newsom make such a move?
superhornet
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At this point, Sierra College seems prepared to move forward in an online environment with sports available, too. At least, the football coach said that he plans to play if the JC athletics governing authority allows for it. Perhaps Sac could do the same.
Knowing the way the CSU operates, though, watch that get shut down the moment football tries....
Knowing the way the CSU operates, though, watch that get shut down the moment football tries....
Phantom Hornet
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I guess I'm being a realist/downer...outside of possibly the SEC and some other top schools who have fat TV contracts, I don't see how college sports happens this year.
From the Sac State's to the lower dregs of top conferences, most schools rely heavily on ticket sales to fund athletic programs, already operating on razor thin margins. You really think these schools are going to go millions into debt to fund scholarships, coaches, and staff with no fan attendance this year? That doesn't even take into account the liability risk with lawyers swirling around waiting for a high-profile college athlete to get sick from COVID so they can sue.
I honestly think most schools will opt to suspend operations, creating the largest upheaval in college sports we've ever seen, possibly changing the system forever. This isn't just a California thing. Programs around the country are having tough discussions as we speak. Montana is really struggling with this, considering they fund most of their athletic department through football ticket sales. Even if regulations are loosened, you really think 30K people are going to jam their stadium in the middle of a pandemic in the fall when the likelihood of outbreaks are extremely high? It's my opinion that programs are not going to take on so much risk to most likely go millions into debt.
I'm crushed because I love watching college athletics, I just don't see a realistic way forward right now. The economics of it say this isn't gonna be an easy fix. Until we can somehow get around the ticket sales dilemma and get more direct funding from TV/internet, it's gonna be bleak I'm afraid. The good news is that we are in a huge market that we have basically to ourselves and when sports return people are gonna be starved for it. Also, I think athletes are going to stay closer to home, which is definitely to our advantage. If feels like we are in the middle of a massive landscape change both culturally and in the world of sports, and Sac State Athletics can really reinvent itself on the other side if it stays forward thinking.
I personally don't care anyone's opinion on whether the hype around this virus is overblown or not, it's irrelevant to me at this point. The reality is that the public is freaked and most people are going to be extra cautious going to large events like football games even if the government gives a thumbs up. I'm guessing a lot of school presidents are secretly hoping their university system will do something similar to the CSU's so they don't have to be the bad guy.
From the Sac State's to the lower dregs of top conferences, most schools rely heavily on ticket sales to fund athletic programs, already operating on razor thin margins. You really think these schools are going to go millions into debt to fund scholarships, coaches, and staff with no fan attendance this year? That doesn't even take into account the liability risk with lawyers swirling around waiting for a high-profile college athlete to get sick from COVID so they can sue.
I honestly think most schools will opt to suspend operations, creating the largest upheaval in college sports we've ever seen, possibly changing the system forever. This isn't just a California thing. Programs around the country are having tough discussions as we speak. Montana is really struggling with this, considering they fund most of their athletic department through football ticket sales. Even if regulations are loosened, you really think 30K people are going to jam their stadium in the middle of a pandemic in the fall when the likelihood of outbreaks are extremely high? It's my opinion that programs are not going to take on so much risk to most likely go millions into debt.
I'm crushed because I love watching college athletics, I just don't see a realistic way forward right now. The economics of it say this isn't gonna be an easy fix. Until we can somehow get around the ticket sales dilemma and get more direct funding from TV/internet, it's gonna be bleak I'm afraid. The good news is that we are in a huge market that we have basically to ourselves and when sports return people are gonna be starved for it. Also, I think athletes are going to stay closer to home, which is definitely to our advantage. If feels like we are in the middle of a massive landscape change both culturally and in the world of sports, and Sac State Athletics can really reinvent itself on the other side if it stays forward thinking.
I personally don't care anyone's opinion on whether the hype around this virus is overblown or not, it's irrelevant to me at this point. The reality is that the public is freaked and most people are going to be extra cautious going to large events like football games even if the government gives a thumbs up. I'm guessing a lot of school presidents are secretly hoping their university system will do something similar to the CSU's so they don't have to be the bad guy.
SoCalSacHornetFan
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Democrats (Gavin) trying to crash the economy to help damage the economy to try and blame Trump during the upcoming election.
Ironically have you noticed that suddenly nobody is listed as passing from the Traditional FLU???
Georgia / Florida / Texas Etc opening and COVID going down still.
CA / Illinois / Democrat states all stalling to open business even while numbers are Low.
I think College Football will start but teams will have less practice time to prepare teams. Gov Newsome is a disaster!
Ironically have you noticed that suddenly nobody is listed as passing from the Traditional FLU???
Georgia / Florida / Texas Etc opening and COVID going down still.
CA / Illinois / Democrat states all stalling to open business even while numbers are Low.
I think College Football will start but teams will have less practice time to prepare teams. Gov Newsome is a disaster!
Here is the CDC data on deaths by age group. It shows the Chinese Flu deaths compared to total deaths for that age group for the week. There is a total of 65 deaths since the first week of February thru the week of May 5th for the 15-24 age group. 65 Chinese Flu deaths nationwide for the college age demographic. And the CSU in its infinite wisdom decided to shutdown all campuses in the fall. Fvcking morons.
OldSchoolHornet
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So now we're dropping F-bombs on this site?! You better hope the moderator doesn't nuke your account for that one...I hear he's a real strict dude when it comes to decorum :lol:
The government has forcibly prevented millions of people in CA and throughout the country from supporting their families via executive fiat and has failed to disseminate any reasoning for their decision to continually extend the lock downs thus hurting American families even more. I couldn't give a rat ass about decorum at this point in time.
While we're at it: Fvck China.
While we're at it: Fvck China.
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