Longtimecat
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So why don't you quit the current head coaching job you have and take over at Weber after you force Rahe out.WSUfan said:
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SWeberCat02
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A pretty accurate summary of Rahe. And I can't say I really disagree with any of it, except for the comment on Klauke. I like Klauke. Rahe is not a good in-game coach. We all know that, and Randy has admitted as much several times. His system is a clone of Morrill's (something else he readily admits to), and he's unwilling to change because he knows nothing else and has never had experienced assistants to help him change. But, Rahe's not going anywhere. He has no desire to leave. And why would he? Somewhere else might hold him accountable. He works for an administration that worships the ground he walks on and in their eyes he can do no wrong. Plus, he has a fan base that accepts what he is and doesn't demand anything more.WSUfan said:
Longtimecat
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Yet winning big sky titles is just not good enough. Recruiting good players and developing them into better ones is not good enough. Personally I am a fan of Randy Rahe and I am satisfied at what he's done here, do I wish for more I'd be lying if I said no.We all have our faults in life are we all not perfect. I think the most imperfect people are the ones who live to dwell on imperfection.
OOC is truly frustrating. And I agree with a lot of what Fan and SWeber are saying. Hell, even Randy will agree. Randy can recruit, develop players, and help them to graduate. He is also fairly adroit at preparing his kids to play. We always know, we will be competitive. However, he is terrible at making in-game adjustments and does have some interesting finishes; including Tuesday night.
No matter, his record does speak for itself. He has won 5 Big Sky Championships, taken 2nd or 3rd four other times, and won 20 or more games 6 times. He is the only coach to win 30 at Weber State and has 2 other 25+ winning seasons. His teams have gone Dancing 3 times (should have been three more times, but...), been to the post-season 8 times, and won a total of 209 games for a .64% winning percentage. His is also the winningest coach in Big Sky history and accomplished that feat in 10 seasons. Do we have our WTF games? YES!! Do we lose games every season that we shouldn't YES!! But, at the end of the day, he gets the job done. We will once again be one of the best teams in the Sky at the start of March and be in position to play in the post-season again.
My issue is that, and this isn't just basketball, it is Athletics in general. POTENTIAL IS SLAPPING US IN THE FACE and we are doing very little to fulfill that potential. Two things are killing us: RPI and revenue generation; specific to basketball, but football could benefit too. These things affect football. In four days we might be wondering why we aren't playing a playoff game and that can go back to SOS/Ranking, fan support, and available $$$.
Our RPI isn't good enough for teams to want to play us and it is bad enough where if they do play us and we win, it really hurts them. Even a close win hurts their RPI. These teams don't want to take a chance. RPI is very important. How does Weber improve RPI, beating other mid-majors and majors. However, since our RPI is 125+ usually, most teams below 100 don't want to chance playing us. Even if they do beat us, it doesn't really help their RPI. Pepperdine had nothing to lose by playing us. Their RPI is right around where ours is, and it helps the 4th place WCC team's SOS and RPI by playing the top ranked Big Sky team. Even in a close win, it helps them. It hurts our RPI to lose to the WCC's 4th place team. Even a close loss does nothing for our resume or RPI. However, tonights game is huge for the Cats. Even though Stanford isn't supposed to challenge for the PAC 12 this season, beating a Major on their floor is huge. If Stanford losses that will kill their RPI. They are taking a major chance playing us. By playing at their place, it gives them a huge edge, especially at the end of a week long road trip for the Cats. RPI is huge! We can fix our RPI big time by winning tonight another loss will further sink our RPI.
Revenue...generating revenue is crucial to helping improve our schedule and being able to do those things necessary to build our program. More money gives the Cats the ability to buy guarantee games or have some cash to help get H/H. If you give a team like Omaha an incentive of 50K to come to Ogden and promise a return trip it could help get a H/H. Having an extra 100K can buy a better game than West Coast Baptist (It might be more). We need to get DI wins against comparable teams and when offered the chance beat the teams that are "supposedly better" on the road, like Pepperdine. Our AD needs to realize that there are 12K seats in the Dee. He needs to fill them with paying fans. If that isn't getting done, then you need to cut lose the staff that isn't fulfilling the goal. Getting fans out to the games, especially a full student section that is vocal, helps build a fan base, who end up being your donors, season ticket holders, round ball members, Wildcat Club members, supporters...etc etc etc. Yes, an occasional game on TV is good. But if the stadium is empty. UGH!! That makes us look like total BEATS. We need to fill the stadium! That has to become a priority.
No matter, his record does speak for itself. He has won 5 Big Sky Championships, taken 2nd or 3rd four other times, and won 20 or more games 6 times. He is the only coach to win 30 at Weber State and has 2 other 25+ winning seasons. His teams have gone Dancing 3 times (should have been three more times, but...), been to the post-season 8 times, and won a total of 209 games for a .64% winning percentage. His is also the winningest coach in Big Sky history and accomplished that feat in 10 seasons. Do we have our WTF games? YES!! Do we lose games every season that we shouldn't YES!! But, at the end of the day, he gets the job done. We will once again be one of the best teams in the Sky at the start of March and be in position to play in the post-season again.
My issue is that, and this isn't just basketball, it is Athletics in general. POTENTIAL IS SLAPPING US IN THE FACE and we are doing very little to fulfill that potential. Two things are killing us: RPI and revenue generation; specific to basketball, but football could benefit too. These things affect football. In four days we might be wondering why we aren't playing a playoff game and that can go back to SOS/Ranking, fan support, and available $$$.
Our RPI isn't good enough for teams to want to play us and it is bad enough where if they do play us and we win, it really hurts them. Even a close win hurts their RPI. These teams don't want to take a chance. RPI is very important. How does Weber improve RPI, beating other mid-majors and majors. However, since our RPI is 125+ usually, most teams below 100 don't want to chance playing us. Even if they do beat us, it doesn't really help their RPI. Pepperdine had nothing to lose by playing us. Their RPI is right around where ours is, and it helps the 4th place WCC team's SOS and RPI by playing the top ranked Big Sky team. Even in a close win, it helps them. It hurts our RPI to lose to the WCC's 4th place team. Even a close loss does nothing for our resume or RPI. However, tonights game is huge for the Cats. Even though Stanford isn't supposed to challenge for the PAC 12 this season, beating a Major on their floor is huge. If Stanford losses that will kill their RPI. They are taking a major chance playing us. By playing at their place, it gives them a huge edge, especially at the end of a week long road trip for the Cats. RPI is huge! We can fix our RPI big time by winning tonight another loss will further sink our RPI.
Revenue...generating revenue is crucial to helping improve our schedule and being able to do those things necessary to build our program. More money gives the Cats the ability to buy guarantee games or have some cash to help get H/H. If you give a team like Omaha an incentive of 50K to come to Ogden and promise a return trip it could help get a H/H. Having an extra 100K can buy a better game than West Coast Baptist (It might be more). We need to get DI wins against comparable teams and when offered the chance beat the teams that are "supposedly better" on the road, like Pepperdine. Our AD needs to realize that there are 12K seats in the Dee. He needs to fill them with paying fans. If that isn't getting done, then you need to cut lose the staff that isn't fulfilling the goal. Getting fans out to the games, especially a full student section that is vocal, helps build a fan base, who end up being your donors, season ticket holders, round ball members, Wildcat Club members, supporters...etc etc etc. Yes, an occasional game on TV is good. But if the stadium is empty. UGH!! That makes us look like total BEATS. We need to fill the stadium! That has to become a priority.
Longtimecat
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Maybe they can get the business and marketing dept involved.Part of their grade.Fill the Dee and Stewart stadium you get a frigging A
SWWeatherCat
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Tal, the only ones who even recognize problems or the need for improvements are the dozen or so posters on this board.
SWeberCat02
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Portland St beats Pepperdine in Malibu by 6. Anyone still satisfied that Weber lost this game?
SWeberCat02
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No, plenty of people here are satisfied with losses, just read this tread and many others. You don't see any problem with losing to the likes of Iona and Buffalo? IDK, maybe they were good "learning experiences" too. Should I just wait until conference play to voice my dissatisfaction with losses?WILDCAT said:
SWeberCat02 said:
Losses happen bro, and you have every right to be upset about them, it's also up to you if you want to continue to dwell on things and continue to let them bother you.
I never said I was ok with losses to Buffalo or Iona, I went to bed both nights upset but just because I don't come on here and rant because we lost doesn't mean I'm satisfied and content with that loss.
If I always want to be mad and bitter about a loss that would be my choice, However I would rather get over it and not dwell on something as trivial as the outcome of A COLLEGE BASKETBALL GAME, makes my life easier.
PSU hit their freebies, took care of the ball, and most importantly, created a ton of TOs. This is a big win for the Vikings and I congratulate them on getting it. Red-Face might actually have a team worth talking about going forward. No matter, they beat a team that Weber should have beaten.
