Playoff Picture

[EWU98]

Trying to look at this as objectively as possible.

We are a 8-2 FCS team (the Central game does not count)

We beat a UNLV team that won 2 games and would probably be middle of the road team in the Sky.

We lost to Weber State who was barely over .500 at HOME!!! who also lost to Portland State

We lost to MSU at HOME!!!

We beat Montana early - they are streaking now at the end of the season and demolished MSU who we lost too.....at HOME!

We are 2-2 in the last 4 games.

I am grateful we got a home game.

Polls are subjective...I've known a lot of people who have no business filling out the polls but still do so.

Did we get a tough draw absolutely. But as a 8-2 we are where we are. The only way the boys can prove themselves is on the field. Let's go 1-0 this week.

Apparently the playoff committee looked at our next opponent, UNI, as a 5-5 team since they also played a DII team.

I mention this because I don’t know how much stock to put into the “DII wins don’t count” argument. Is that specifically stated somewhere?

It’s curious to me how some think a win over a non-scholarship or limited scholarship FCS program from the Pioneer League like San Diego (MSU olayed two of those) is somehow more meaningful than a win against a scholarship DII team. In a good year CWU would smoke many of those programs.

yes they do not count...take a listen to Larry starting at the 32:40 mark...give a great breakdown of what probably happened.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/november-22-2021-zag-beat-writer-jim-meehan-on-las/id1350992460?i=1000542739993

 

[luckyintheorder]

Kind of has a "got f'd by the Montana AD" feel to it. Again not a bracket specialist

Sure does.

Lol so color blind. Montana literally has the worst matchups of the entire bracket. Ewu on Friday night game. Then JMU, then NDSU. If the Montana AD had any influence….that’s not exactly what they would have wanted

Kind of how the seeds work isn't it fuckstick...? Going to have to beat someone is the point of the playoff's. Will trade you and take the 5th seed and Griz can play UNI than come back to the Inferno. Just like a Griz fan to go to another board to bitch about how bad they got it..

Not bitching about getting in. Just trying to explain to someone who is crying about “favoritism” that favoritism only works if you do someone a favor and this seeding and matchup is no favor to Montana. See you Friday night in Missoula

You left out "in my opinion or in my view" about what amounts to favoritism. In my opinion, Eastern wasn't represented in that room and every other m'fer on that committee was willing to bury the Eagles to avoid them early and your boy made that possible. Would even go so far to say that he didn't think to much of the Grizzlies chances to make a run to the championship either with or without a favorable draw and decided that hamstringing Eastern and getting them at home was the best possible outcome for the Griz this season. BTW since you were super polite, my apologies for the foul language. Let there be peace in our time ;-)

 

[HookedonGriz]

Trying to look at this as objectively as possible.

We are a 8-2 FCS team (the Central game does not count)

We beat a UNLV team that won 2 games and would probably be middle of the road team in the Sky.

We lost to Weber State who was barely over .500 at HOME!!! who also lost to Portland State

We lost to MSU at HOME!!!

We beat Montana early - they are streaking now at the end of the season and demolished MSU who we lost too.....at HOME!

We are 2-2 in the last 4 games.

I am grateful we got a home game.

Polls are subjective...I've known a lot of people who have no business filling out the polls but still do so.

Did we get a tough draw absolutely. But as a 8-2 we are where we are. The only way the boys can prove themselves is on the field. Let's go 1-0 this week.

Apparently the playoff committee looked at our next opponent, UNI, as a 5-5 team since they also played a DII team.

I mention this because I don’t know how much stock to put into the “DII wins don’t count” argument. Is that specifically stated somewhere?

It’s curious to me how some think a win over a non-scholarship or limited scholarship FCS program from the Pioneer League like San Diego (MSU olayed two of those) is somehow more meaningful than a win against a scholarship DII team. In a good year CWU would smoke many of those programs.

St Thomas is FCS, just started this year like Dixie St so they were 6-5. I still don’t think they should have gotten in either. They were literally the last team in.

 

[HookedonGriz]

Wow, thanks for coming over and explaining "Regionalization" to us. Now it makes total sense why the EAGS were not seeded, and the princess of FCS the EAGS beat was seeded 6.

Well unfortunately it is extremely obvious that very few here understand the concept based on the pages of questions on why you have to play UNI and then Montana.

Ok, explain why we didn’t get what we deserved then? We got screwed by the playoff committee plain and simple. I’d love to hear the argument for why a team like ETSU who plays in a marginal conference gets seeded?

BTW, I also believe Montana deserved to be seeded. This isn’t an either/or situation for me personally.

You must have missed my very first post on this thread. Here it is. I agreed with you:


Do I think ewu got snubbed, yes I do…but you’d have to take your anger out on the committee for putting in ETSU at 7 more than anything else.

The Griz kind of got snubbed at a 6 (instead of a 4 or 5) in my opinion. And the Cats probably got snubbed at 8 if I’m being honest. They put in 5 from the Big Sky so they avoided seeding 4 of those 5 (when they should have)


They also took in a 6-5 UNI team to give the MVFC 6 teams. That one surprised me a lot too. I think it’s safe to say this committee blows it sometimes and putting Griz, EWU, JMU, and Bison all on same side (due to regionalization) is also a travesty.

 

[clawman1]

I still wonder how much the committee DIDN'T want 1/2 the seeds coming from 1 conference.
I agree with Larry on the money aspect, Eastern doesn't have any money! Why? no fans to speak of and lousy management of the alumni association. At least three games we should have had a full house, MT. MSU, and Idaho. If the administration spent more than .25 promoting those game I didn't see or hear it. This is a business, a business with THOUSANDS of alumni within the region that are largely ignored.

 

[LDopaPDX]

It is what it is... We got hosed. We always seem to be the ones that get hosed. 3 times we've finished with 7 wins and not gotten into the playoffs despite MANY teams getting in with 7. We are the first 9-2 team ever in the Big Sky to go unseeded. The thing that irks me is that our wins were the only ones devalued. If we had lost to Montana and finished 8-3, we'd have been in the exact same situation. All the logic for moving Montana to a seed based on their 9 wins instead of 8 was ignored when it came to Eastern.

Plus, the D2 talk is nonsense. The recommendation is that all playoff contenders have 7 D1 wins, but that bar is always lowered. And it is just that, a recommendation, not a hard rule. Plus, regardless of playing Central, strength of schedule is supposed to be a determining factor, yet it was also ignored. I linked the top 3 sports analytics groups, and every single one of them showed Eastern as the best 9-2 team strength of schedule. In fact, our schedule wasn't even rated all that close to the others... we were better by a fairly decent margin.

That's what makes it so confusing. We get told "schedule matters;" "wins matter." Yet they didn't. There was demonstrable evidence to place us 8 or higher, and very little reason not to. And here we are. Sitting here wondering what the hell Kent Haslam was doing.

At the end, we all know what he was doing. He thought pushing Eastern out of a seed was smart business.

 

[Obzerver]

Watched alot of FCS games this year from the get go. Really felt this was gonna be our year. Never really felt this way so convicted. Well we lost two games by a few points, games we should have won.
We are the most exciting team in the Nation. We score alotta points and our games are always exciting.
We got, without question screwed over. When we beat UNI in a bone crushing game we have to to play again the following Friday? How many teams have that luxury on the road from here to eternity...thats sucks in the toughest bracket without question.
Our team puts on a showcase game from start to finish you can't blink or you'll miss potentially something exciting (good or bad). The rest of the teams I've seen are butt ass boring from coast to coast. Excemption is Sac State as they are fun to watch and damn good. MSU, UM UC Davis are boring!
We don't scare and can beat any team in the FCS and we don't quit.
Can't help but think EWU will be playing pissed...I'm pissed and so is my dog. Fuck everybody and the horse they rode in on.
We'll pick em off...one at a time!

 

[grizfnz]

It is what it is... We got hosed. We always seem to be the ones that get hosed. 3 times we've finished with 7 wins and not gotten into the playoffs despite MANY teams getting in with 7. We are the first 9-2 team ever in the Big Sky to go unseeded. The thing that irks me is that our wins were the only ones devalued. If we had lost to Montana and finished 8-3, we'd have been in the exact same situation. All the logic for moving Montana to a seed based on their 9 wins instead of 8 was ignored when it came to Eastern.

Plus, the D2 talk is nonsense. The recommendation is that all playoff contenders have 7 D1 wins, but that bar is always lowered. And it is just that, a recommendation, not a hard rule. Plus, regardless of playing Central, strength of schedule is supposed to be a determining factor, yet it was also ignored. I linked the top 3 sports analytics groups, and every single one of them showed Eastern as the best 9-2 team strength of schedule. In fact, our schedule wasn't even rated all that close to the others... we were better by a fairly decent margin.

That's what makes it so confusing. We get told "schedule matters;" "wins matter." Yet they didn't. There was demonstrable evidence to place us 8 or higher, and very little reason not to. And here we are. Sitting here wondering what the hell Kent Haslam was doing.

At the end, we all know what he was doing. He thought pushing Eastern out of a seed was smart business.

Schedule and wins do matter. You finished 9-2 with an FBS win but also a DII game and back to back losses (at home) late in the year, and Weber fizzled out compounding that loss. If you had lost those games early in the year and rallied to win the remainder of your schedule you would have been "trending upward" in the eyes of the committee. You can be pissed all you want, but Haslam had nothing to do with it. Look how the committee punished the hell out of a 2 loss MSU by dropping them 5 spots....not sure where you think they'd seed you. There was no way the other AD's were going to allow the BSC to have half of the seeds especially when you consider the Mo. Valley and the BSC account for nearly half of the entire field.

 

[GoldenEagle]

It is what it is... We got hosed. We always seem to be the ones that get hosed. 3 times we've finished with 7 wins and not gotten into the playoffs despite MANY teams getting in with 7. We are the first 9-2 team ever in the Big Sky to go unseeded. The thing that irks me is that our wins were the only ones devalued. If we had lost to Montana and finished 8-3, we'd have been in the exact same situation. All the logic for moving Montana to a seed based on their 9 wins instead of 8 was ignored when it came to Eastern.

Plus, the D2 talk is nonsense. The recommendation is that all playoff contenders have 7 D1 wins, but that bar is always lowered. And it is just that, a recommendation, not a hard rule. Plus, regardless of playing Central, strength of schedule is supposed to be a determining factor, yet it was also ignored. I linked the top 3 sports analytics groups, and every single one of them showed Eastern as the best 9-2 team strength of schedule. In fact, our schedule wasn't even rated all that close to the others... we were better by a fairly decent margin.

That's what makes it so confusing. We get told "schedule matters;" "wins matter." Yet they didn't. There was demonstrable evidence to place us 8 or higher, and very little reason not to. And here we are. Sitting here wondering what the hell Kent Haslam was doing.

At the end, we all know what he was doing. He thought pushing Eastern out of a seed was smart business.

Schedule and wins do matter. You finished 9-2 with an FBS win but also a DII game and back to back losses (at home) late in the year, and Weber fizzled out compounding that loss. If you had lost those games early in the year and rallied to win the remainder of your schedule you would have been "trending upward" in the eyes of the committee. You can be pissed all you want, but Haslam had nothing to do with it. Look how the committee punished the hell out of a 2 loss MSU by dropping them 5 spots....not sure where you think they'd seed you. There was no way the other AD's were going to allow the BSC to have half of the seeds especially when you consider the Mo. Valley and the BSC account for nearly half of the entire field.

As EAGS fans, we should feel blessed that the brain trust from egriz visits us to explain ad nauseam why the EAGS didn't get a seed, when an obvious weaker team like UM was seeded 6. I think their frequent visits to this board covering this topic reveals how insecure they are. Just leave and go play with your soft buddies on egriz. Bottom line, Haslam failed and EWU got screwed. Now leave and don't come back.

 

[grizfnz]

It is what it is... We got hosed. We always seem to be the ones that get hosed. 3 times we've finished with 7 wins and not gotten into the playoffs despite MANY teams getting in with 7. We are the first 9-2 team ever in the Big Sky to go unseeded. The thing that irks me is that our wins were the only ones devalued. If we had lost to Montana and finished 8-3, we'd have been in the exact same situation. All the logic for moving Montana to a seed based on their 9 wins instead of 8 was ignored when it came to Eastern.

Plus, the D2 talk is nonsense. The recommendation is that all playoff contenders have 7 D1 wins, but that bar is always lowered. And it is just that, a recommendation, not a hard rule. Plus, regardless of playing Central, strength of schedule is supposed to be a determining factor, yet it was also ignored. I linked the top 3 sports analytics groups, and every single one of them showed Eastern as the best 9-2 team strength of schedule. In fact, our schedule wasn't even rated all that close to the others... we were better by a fairly decent margin.

That's what makes it so confusing. We get told "schedule matters;" "wins matter." Yet they didn't. There was demonstrable evidence to place us 8 or higher, and very little reason not to. And here we are. Sitting here wondering what the hell Kent Haslam was doing.

At the end, we all know what he was doing. He thought pushing Eastern out of a seed was smart business.

Schedule and wins do matter. You finished 9-2 with an FBS win but also a DII game and back to back losses (at home) late in the year, and Weber fizzled out compounding that loss. If you had lost those games early in the year and rallied to win the remainder of your schedule you would have been "trending upward" in the eyes of the committee. You can be pissed all you want, but Haslam had nothing to do with it. Look how the committee punished the hell out of a 2 loss MSU by dropping them 5 spots....not sure where you think they'd seed you. There was no way the other AD's were going to allow the BSC to have half of the seeds especially when you consider the Mo. Valley and the BSC account for nearly half of the entire field.

As EAGS fans, we should feel blessed that the brain trust from egriz visits us to explain ad nauseam why the EAGS didn't get a seed, when an obvious weaker team like UM was seeded 6. I think their frequent visits to this board covering this topic reveals how insecure they are. Just leave and go play with your soft buddies on egriz. Bottom line, Haslam failed and EWU got screwed. Now leave and don't come back.

keyboard tough guy

 

[LDopaPDX]

It is what it is... We got hosed. We always seem to be the ones that get hosed. 3 times we've finished with 7 wins and not gotten into the playoffs despite MANY teams getting in with 7. We are the first 9-2 team ever in the Big Sky to go unseeded. The thing that irks me is that our wins were the only ones devalued. If we had lost to Montana and finished 8-3, we'd have been in the exact same situation. All the logic for moving Montana to a seed based on their 9 wins instead of 8 was ignored when it came to Eastern.

Plus, the D2 talk is nonsense. The recommendation is that all playoff contenders have 7 D1 wins, but that bar is always lowered. And it is just that, a recommendation, not a hard rule. Plus, regardless of playing Central, strength of schedule is supposed to be a determining factor, yet it was also ignored. I linked the top 3 sports analytics groups, and every single one of them showed Eastern as the best 9-2 team strength of schedule. In fact, our schedule wasn't even rated all that close to the others... we were better by a fairly decent margin.

That's what makes it so confusing. We get told "schedule matters;" "wins matter." Yet they didn't. There was demonstrable evidence to place us 8 or higher, and very little reason not to. And here we are. Sitting here wondering what the hell Kent Haslam was doing.

At the end, we all know what he was doing. He thought pushing Eastern out of a seed was smart business.

Schedule and wins do matter. You finished 9-2 with an FBS win but also a DII game and back to back losses (at home) late in the year, and Weber fizzled out compounding that loss. If you had lost those games early in the year and rallied to win the remainder of your schedule you would have been "trending upward" in the eyes of the committee. You can be pissed all you want, but Haslam had nothing to do with it. Look how the committee punished the hell out of a 2 loss MSU by dropping them 5 spots....not sure where you think they'd seed you. There was no way the other AD's were going to allow the BSC to have half of the seeds especially when you consider the Mo. Valley and the BSC account for nearly half of the entire field.

Can you imagine how pissed you'd be if you were playing UNI on Saturday and then face a 6-day turnaround to play, let's say, Montana State that you just beat... except this time on their home field? That's an identical comparison to what we're dealing with. We finished the same 9-2 with a tougher schedule than all 3 Big Sky seeds (by literally every metric and statistic available online... massey, nolan, sagarin, etc), and went 2-1 v playoff teams. Those two wins are what Montana and Montana State equaled COMBINED. Our one loss to Montana State is *better* than Montana losing to both Eastern and Sac State. We had one loss to a playoff team, Montana had two. Our margin of losses combined was less than either of Montana's single margins of defeat. Even if that wasn't the case and the results were equal, one team played a demonstrably more difficult schedule, and that team should be rewarded *NOT* punished.

Let's leave out that Eastern lost two games by a combined four points, which is better than all the others. There is no metric or comparative that shows Eastern is the least of all the top 4 Big Sky teams. The only reason we're dealing with this is Kent Haslam, who advocated for everyone but Eastern. Did he fail? No. I think he succeeded. He knew it was going to be a tough path for Montana so he greased the skids to the best of his ability. The Big Sky didn't put him in that role to be a rival team's attempted executioner, he's supposed to advocate for the conference.

"Look how the committee punished the hell out of a 2 loss MSU by dropping them 5 spots" ---- look how Haslam "punished" us. We have two losses and didn't even get a seed despite playing a schedule every metric shows is tougher. Had we been a 7 or 8 seed, I'd have just said the difference was marginal and it'll get settled on the field. But that wasn't good enough for Haslam, who wanted Eastern demoted further and left to play on a short turnaround before potentially going to Missoula.

 

[LDopaPDX]

The logic that Haslam didn't screw us is in defiance of every single poll and analyst who had us well above of at least 2 and in many cases all 3 of the other Big sky seed. If there was some other metric he used to determine Eastern didn't deserve a seed, he should come out and say it. He probably figured we were the easiest and most bloodless to fuck over, so he went with it knowing he wouldn't get too much blowback. He used the opportunity to try to pave a clean path for his school. It may work, or it might not. But that's not what he was on the committee for.

Since all of these different analytics sites publish their data and agree, and the NCAA committee has always said they use that data (show me the data that says otherwise?), what was his reason? If he grew a pair and just plainly said "my eye test showed me Eastern wasn't good and therefore they are no different than Sacred Heart," so be it. We could disagree, but at least it shows he had a reason, even if it was a shitty one. Occam's Razor would make for a simpler answer, he wanted to smooth things out for Montana even if it meant fucking over the competition by disregarding all the information available..

 

[GoldenEagle]

It is what it is... We got hosed. We always seem to be the ones that get hosed. 3 times we've finished with 7 wins and not gotten into the playoffs despite MANY teams getting in with 7. We are the first 9-2 team ever in the Big Sky to go unseeded. The thing that irks me is that our wins were the only ones devalued. If we had lost to Montana and finished 8-3, we'd have been in the exact same situation. All the logic for moving Montana to a seed based on their 9 wins instead of 8 was ignored when it came to Eastern.

Plus, the D2 talk is nonsense. The recommendation is that all playoff contenders have 7 D1 wins, but that bar is always lowered. And it is just that, a recommendation, not a hard rule. Plus, regardless of playing Central, strength of schedule is supposed to be a determining factor, yet it was also ignored. I linked the top 3 sports analytics groups, and every single one of them showed Eastern as the best 9-2 team strength of schedule. In fact, our schedule wasn't even rated all that close to the others... we were better by a fairly decent margin.

That's what makes it so confusing. We get told "schedule matters;" "wins matter." Yet they didn't. There was demonstrable evidence to place us 8 or higher, and very little reason not to. And here we are. Sitting here wondering what the hell Kent Haslam was doing.

At the end, we all know what he was doing. He thought pushing Eastern out of a seed was smart business.

Schedule and wins do matter. You finished 9-2 with an FBS win but also a DII game and back to back losses (at home) late in the year, and Weber fizzled out compounding that loss. If you had lost those games early in the year and rallied to win the remainder of your schedule you would have been "trending upward" in the eyes of the committee. You can be pissed all you want, but Haslam had nothing to do with it. Look how the committee punished the hell out of a 2 loss MSU by dropping them 5 spots....not sure where you think they'd seed you. There was no way the other AD's were going to allow the BSC to have half of the seeds especially when you consider the Mo. Valley and the BSC account for nearly half of the entire field.

As EAGS fans, we should feel blessed that the brain trust from egriz visits us to explain ad nauseam why the EAGS didn't get a seed, when an obvious weaker team like UM was seeded 6. I think their frequent visits to this board covering this topic reveals how insecure they are. Just leave and go play with your soft buddies on egriz. Bottom line, Haslam failed and EWU got screwed. Now leave and don't come back.

keyboard tough guy

Whatever, princess.

 

[clawman1]

I still have to believe the committee did not want 4 of the 8 seeds going to the Big Sky. Justification for that may have been, Villanova won 9 division 1 games, beat #3 seeded James Madison at James Madison and won the CAA regular season title. ETSU won 9 division 1 games, won the Southern Conference championship and had a win over a Power 5 SEC school in Vanderbilt.
Conference championships matter.
Eastern only won 8 D-1 games and the Weber loss was a bad loss.

 

[GetEm_Griz]

Holy hell, some of you are losing your minds and are borderline insane.

Yes EWU got screwed. EWU should have been seeded, not ETSU. That anger should be on ETSU and all the other committee members who felt they deserved to be seeded instead.

Haslam had nothing to do with EWU not getting a seed, nor with Montana getting the #6 seed.

And as has been said ad nauseam, you lost to Weber State. That in addition to the D2 game (yes I know about Jacksonville State backing out) is what in the end screwed EWU. 8 D1 wins vs Montana’s 9. End of season performance matters.

Good luck against UNI. Looking forward to potentially playing EWU again in Missoula.

 

[KWCAT]

Trying to look at this as objectively as possible.

We are a 8-2 FCS team (the Central game does not count)

We beat a UNLV team that won 2 games and would probably be middle of the road team in the Sky.

We lost to Weber State who was barely over .500 at HOME!!! who also lost to Portland State

We lost to MSU at HOME!!!

We beat Montana early - they are streaking now at the end of the season and demolished MSU who we lost too.....at HOME!

We are 2-2 in the last 4 games.

I am grateful we got a home game.

Polls are subjective...I've known a lot of people who have no business filling out the polls but still do so.

Did we get a tough draw absolutely. But as a 8-2 we are where we are. The only way the boys can prove themselves is on the field. Let's go 1-0 this week.

Apparently the playoff committee looked at our next opponent, UNI, as a 5-5 team since they also played a DII team.

I mention this because I don’t know how much stock to put into the “DII wins don’t count” argument. Is that specifically stated somewhere?

It’s curious to me how some think a win over a non-scholarship or limited scholarship FCS program from the Pioneer League like San Diego (MSU olayed two of those) is somehow more meaningful than a win against a scholarship DII team. In a good year CWU would smoke many of those programs.

yes they do not count...take a listen to Larry starting at the 32:40 mark...give a great breakdown of what probably happened.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/november-22-2021-zag-beat-writer-jim-meehan-on-las/id1350992460?i=1000542739993

Hard to take him serious when he doesn’t even have the Missouri state upon it correct along with some other facts incorrect. He probably realized he made those mistakes after he recorded and sent out the podcast.
UNI is going to be a tall task for you guys unless they’re on they’re off game what just happened a few times this season .good luck

 

[luckyintheorder]

Trying to look at this as objectively as possible.

We are a 8-2 FCS team (the Central game does not count)

We beat a UNLV team that won 2 games and would probably be middle of the road team in the Sky.

We lost to Weber State who was barely over .500 at HOME!!! who also lost to Portland State

We lost to MSU at HOME!!!

We beat Montana early - they are streaking now at the end of the season and demolished MSU who we lost too.....at HOME!

We are 2-2 in the last 4 games.

I am grateful we got a home game.

Polls are subjective...I've known a lot of people who have no business filling out the polls but still do so.

Did we get a tough draw absolutely. But as a 8-2 we are where we are. The only way the boys can prove themselves is on the field. Let's go 1-0 this week.

Apparently the playoff committee looked at our next opponent, UNI, as a 5-5 team since they also played a DII team.

I mention this because I don’t know how much stock to put into the “DII wins don’t count” argument. Is that specifically stated somewhere?

It’s curious to me how some think a win over a non-scholarship or limited scholarship FCS program from the Pioneer League like San Diego (MSU olayed two of those) is somehow more meaningful than a win against a scholarship DII team. In a good year CWU would smoke many of those programs.

yes they do not count...take a listen to Larry starting at the 32:40 mark...give a great breakdown of what probably happened.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/november-22-2021-zag-beat-writer-jim-meehan-on-las/id1350992460?i=1000542739993

Hard to take him serious when he doesn’t even have the Missouri state upon it correct along with some other facts incorrect. He probably realized he made those mistakes after he recorded and sent out the podcast.
UNI is going to be a tall task for you guys unless they’re on they’re off game what just happened a few times this season .good luck

Once the Eag's put down UNI, they will be coming for the Griz next.

 

[Eagledawg]

KWKAT posted

"Hard to take him serious when he doesn’t even have the Missouri state upon it correct along with some other facts incorrect. He probably realized he made those mistakes after he recorded and sent out the podcast.
UNI is going to be a tall task for you guys unless they’re on they’re off game what just happened a few times this season .good luck"
******************
Not sure what you meant by "Missouri state upon it correct". I listened to Larry Weir's (2x Washinton sportscaster of the year) podcast on Monday but after reading your comment I went back and listened to it again. What did he state about Missouri State that was incorrect? Also what were the "some other facts incorrect"? All I heard was Larry giving data to back up point of view and if Larry throws out an opinion he will state that its his opinion.
Larry Weir is one of the best around and he knows his stuff and if he doesn't know something he will readily admit to it.
I'm eagerly waiting for your responce.

 

[ClarkGrizwald]

Trying to look at this as objectively as possible.

We are a 8-2 FCS team (the Central game does not count)

We beat a UNLV team that won 2 games and would probably be middle of the road team in the Sky.

We lost to Weber State who was barely over .500 at HOME!!! who also lost to Portland State

We lost to MSU at HOME!!!

We beat Montana early - they are streaking now at the end of the season and demolished MSU who we lost too.....at HOME!

We are 2-2 in the last 4 games.

I am grateful we got a home game.

Polls are subjective...I've known a lot of people who have no business filling out the polls but still do so.

Did we get a tough draw absolutely. But as a 8-2 we are where we are. The only way the boys can prove themselves is on the field. Let's go 1-0 this week.

Apparently the playoff committee looked at our next opponent, UNI, as a 5-5 team since they also played a DII team.

I mention this because I don’t know how much stock to put into the “DII wins don’t count” argument. Is that specifically stated somewhere?

It’s curious to me how some think a win over a non-scholarship or limited scholarship FCS program from the Pioneer League like San Diego (MSU olayed two of those) is somehow more meaningful than a win against a scholarship DII team. In a good year CWU would smoke many of those programs.

yes they do not count...take a listen to Larry starting at the 32:40 mark...give a great breakdown of what probably happened.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/november-22-2021-zag-beat-writer-jim-meehan-on-las/id1350992460?i=1000542739993

Hard to take him serious when he doesn’t even have the Missouri state upon it correct along with some other facts incorrect. He probably realized he made those mistakes after he recorded and sent out the podcast.
UNI is going to be a tall task for you guys unless they’re on they’re off game what just happened a few times this season .good luck

Once the Eag's put down UNI, they will be coming for the Griz next.

Oh, I’m quite sure the GRIZ will be ready for either UNI or eastern. Just not sure if a cat fan really cares.

 

[dudeitsaid]

Could you imagine it playing out this way? I would love to see it just like this...with maybe a change in the last game.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2021-11-21/fcs-playoff-bracket-predictions-picks-every-fcs-playoff-game-and-round