Playoff Picture

[LDopaPDX]

It’s not Montana people that have explaining to do, it’s bitch boy Kent- who sat on the committee- that has explaining to do. Of the 4 9-2 teams from the Big Sky, most analysts showed Eastern’s schedule as the toughest or second toughest. Yet we were the only unseeded team of the group. It makes no sense. To top it off, we open against one of the tougher first round opponents… and if we win, we play on the road on a 6 day turnaround.

It’s seems as though Haslam wanted to make sure Eastern was sent to Missoula with the worst possible chance of getting the win. Nearly every pundit had Eastern in the top 8, but the comittee didn’t? Someone was steering that discussion, and it went against all reason and rational thinking.

 

[HookedonGriz]

It’s not Montana people that have explaining to do, it’s bitch boy Kent- who sat on the committee- that has explaining to do. Of the 4 9-2 teams from the Big Sky, most analysts showed Eastern’s schedule as the toughest or second toughest. Yet we were the only unseeded team of the group. It makes no sense. To top it off, we open against one of the tougher first round opponents… and if we win, we play on the road on a 6 day turnaround.

It’s seems as though Haslam wanted to make sure Eastern was sent to Missoula with the worst possible chance of getting the win. Nearly every pundit had Eastern in the top 8, but the comittee didn’t? Someone was steering that discussion, and it went against all reason and rational thinking.

I thought at first you were making a funny but then I realized you legitimately think Haslam had anything at all to do with the seeding of Montana or EWU.

First and foremost, you need to understand the concept of regionalization to figure out why you are matching up with UNI.

Second, you need to understand that Haslam is dismissed entirely from any conversations dealing with the Griz, so he has no influence where the Griz land or his they are seeded.

Do I think ewu got snubbed, yes I do…but you’d have to take your anger out on the committee for putting in ETSU at 7 more than anything else.

The Griz kind of got snubbed at a 6 (instead of a 4 or 5) in my opinion. And the Cats probably got snubbed at 8 if I’m being honest. They put in 5 from the Big Sky so they avoided seeding 4 of those 5 (when they should have)


They also took in a 6-5 UNI team to give the MVFC 6 teams. That one surprised me a lot too. I think it’s safe to say this committee blows it sometimes and putting Griz, EWU, JMU, and Bison all on same side (due to regionalization) is also a travesty.

 

[GoldenEagle]

Wow, thanks for coming over and explaining "Regionalization" to us. Now it makes total sense why the EAGS were not seeded, and the princess of FCS the EAGS beat was seeded 6.

 

[clawman1]

My question of the committee would be why Villinova#41 SoS and ETSU #72 SoS ahead of the Eagles? If it is the principal of 4 seeds from 1 conference, that isn't justifiable.

 

[clawman1]

Wow, thanks for coming over and explaining "Regionalization" to us. Now it makes total sense why the EAGS were not seeded, and the princess of FCS the EAGS beat was seeded 6.

He thinks we are a bunch of hayseeds that don't understand football.
F U Hooked and Biden too!!

 

[EWURanger]

It’s crazy to think that the difference between a 10-1 record and a probable 3 seed and having to play a first round game is a couple of plays. I get it, they probably weren’t going to seed 4 BSC teams and we played a Division II game. Thanks, JMU for backing out of that one.

 

[Hambone]

9-2 with a freakin FBS win and we have to play a first round game? Frickin’ bullshit man!

The game against Central nullifies the UNLV game. We lost two conference games one to a team that didn't make it in. Might be the only one here that agrees.

I wouldn’t say that playing Central nullifies an FBS win.

 

[Hambone]

It’s hard to get around the fact that we went 2-1 against the playoff field while Montana went 1-2 and MSU went 1-1.

Good point. I think this boiled down to the committee not wanting to seed 4 Big Sky teams. I don’t know how they made their decision…maybe they threw darts.

 

[Obzerver]

We beat UNI (who beat the crap outta Sac St. our BSC Champions)
Then we beat Montana on the road
Then we beat James Madison on the road
Then we beat NDSU on the road
Then we beat Sam Houston State on the road
Then we are National Champions?

ok

*The good news if/when we accomplish this feat it will go down in history as the hardest path to a National Championship...ever!

 

[HookedonGriz]

Wow, thanks for coming over and explaining "Regionalization" to us. Now it makes total sense why the EAGS were not seeded, and the princess of FCS the EAGS beat was seeded 6.

Well unfortunately it is extremely obvious that very few here understand the concept based on the pages of questions on why you have to play UNI and then Montana.

 

[HookedonGriz]

My question of the committee would be why Villinova#41 SoS and ETSU #72 SoS ahead of the Eagles? If it is the principal of 4 seeds from 1 conference, that isn't justifiable.

Those are fair questions.

 

[LDopaPDX]

Wow, thanks for coming over and explaining "Regionalization" to us. Now it makes total sense why the EAGS were not seeded, and the princess of FCS the EAGS beat was seeded 6.

Well unfortunately it is extremely obvious that very few here understand the concept based on the pages of questions on why you have to play UNI and then Montana.

Utter nonsense using regionalization as a reason. Regionalization, per the committee's instruction, has nothing to do with the seeds. And it has nothing to do with Haslam on the committee interpreting the rules to Montana's best and Eastern's worst.

Eastern finished 9-2 and gets unseeded. Had we lost to Montana and finished 8-3, it would have had no effect whatsoever on where Eastern opened the playoffs. We'd be in the exact same situation playing- likely- the exact same team at the exact same place on the exact same day. Do you think had Montana lost to Montana State yesterday that they'd be the 6 seed? Did beating Montana State not have a major positive effect for Montana? Why should our win over Montana be totally useless, when 8-3 and 9-2 obviously made a huge difference for Montana?

Montana finished 1-2 against other playoff teams and gets a 6 seed. Eastern finishes 2-1 against playoff team, including beating Montana and finishes with the exact same record and doesn't even get seeded. Not 7. Not 8. This isn't a matter of interpretation that maybe gave Montana a slight edge. It was assuming Eastern is nowhere close, getting unseeded, and a first round game against a decent opponent versus a bye week.

That's called getting fucked... you know it; we all know it.

 

[LDopaPDX]

And just to make sure this is researched... Everyone is 9-2, so let's compare resumes.

Here's Sagarin showing Eastern *above* all the other 3 seeded Big Sky teams. Take special note of the strength of schedule, where Eastern is 18 ahead of Montana, 24 above Sac State, and 29 above Montana State.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Here's the same rankings from Nolan, and they show the same thing... Never heard of this one before, but it came up first in a search...

https://www.warrennolan.com/football1aa/2021/sos-elo

Here's Massey, which shows something completely different. Oh wait, it DOESN'T. It shows the EXACT SAME!!! It has Eastern rated #4, ahead of all the other Big Sky schools and with the best Strength of Schedule of all the Big Sky playoffs teams.

https://masseyratings.com/cf/fcs/ratings

It's curious when all the analytical observers show one thing, the various polls agree, yet Kent Fuckface Haslam and the committee totally dissent. If you're going throw a team out of the seeds for some reason, hell, give us the reason. If we want to work backward and try to prove Kent Haslam isn't a shitbag with no integrity, than what evidence can be used? Is there any evidence? So is there a weird poll that shows Eastern played cupcakes and is rated really low? I mean it's not like he just rated Eastern below the other 3 teams, it's that he didn't rate them at all. So yeah, fuck that guy.

 

[Griz2010]

And just to make sure this is researched... Everyone is 9-2, so let's compare resumes.

Here's Sagarin showing Eastern *above* all the other 3 seeded Big Sky teams. Take special note of the strength of schedule, where Eastern is 18 ahead of Montana, 24 above Sac State, and 29 above Montana State.

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

Here's the same rankings from Nolan, and they show the same thing... Never heard of this one before, but it came up first in a search...

https://www.warrennolan.com/football1aa/2021/sos-elo

Here's Massey, which shows something completely different. Oh wait, it DOESN'T. It shows the EXACT SAME!!! It has Eastern rated #4, ahead of all the other Big Sky schools and with the best Strength of Schedule of all the Big Sky playoffs teams.

https://masseyratings.com/cf/fcs/ratings

It's curious when all the analytical observers show one thing, the various polls agree, yet Kent Fuckface Haslam and the committee totally dissent. If you're going throw a team out of the seeds for some reason, hell, give us the reason. If we want to work backward and try to prove Kent Haslam isn't a shitbag with no integrity, than what evidence can be used? Is there any evidence? So is there a weird poll that shows Eastern played cupcakes and is rated really low? I mean it's not like he just rated Eastern below the other 3 teams, it's that he didn't rate them at all. So yeah, fuck that guy.

You keep wasting all these keystrokes while ignoring the crucial fact that HASLAM IS NOT EVEN ALLOWED IN THE ROOM WHILE UM IS BEING DISCUSSED. Just like anyone else on the committee whose school is being considered for the playoffs. You're entitled to think that your team got screwed, but your anger is entirely misplaced, and frankly, you sound like a Q Anon-tier conspiracy theorist.

 

[GoldenEagle]

Good work DOPA. I wanted to do same analysis today, but had too much crap to do. The EAGS should be seeded, and above Montana. Griz fans can try to justify it all they want. The bottom line is the EAGS got hosed and Montana gets yet another gift. FTG! and the horse they rode in on.

 

[FormerEag]

It also sucks because I don’t think- even with a seed- Montana has the horses to get past the quarterfinals at best.

 

[clawman1]

It is what it is at this point. The Eagles were in control of their destiny back in September just as they are now. Figure out a way to beat N Iowa.

 

[HookedonGriz]

You guys are really grasping at straws here claiming Haslam screwed you.

First and foremost, do you think if Haslam had any influence whatsoever on where we were seeded that we would have landed a 6 seed on the worst side of the bracket. Have you seen what that bracket looks like. He obviously had no say whatsoever in that seeding or influence. He is not allowed to even participate in those discussions.

Next, if you guys deserved a seed over the Griz then why did every single FCS expert (Sam with Hero Sports, Craig Haley, Colter Nuanez, and Brian McLaughlin) have the Griz getting a higher seed than EWU in their projected brackets. Every single one. They are the experts of FCS football and had the Griz as a 4 or 5 seed.

Last, you had a bad two game skid losing to MSU and a Weber team who is unranked….both at home. Those losses look bad especially with what the Griz just did to MSU. On top of that, you only have 8 D1 wins….not 9….you can scream 9-2 all you want but the committee doesn’t even consider the CWU win as a win.

So yes, all of that would easily give the Griz a higher seed than EWU. It’s not rocket science. And your conspiracy theory about Haslam somehow sabotaging you guys is some legit mental health issue status. You may need to see someone.

 

[GoldenEagle]

You guys are really grasping at straws here claiming Haslam screwed you.

First and foremost, do you think if Haslam had any influence whatsoever on where we were seeded that we would have landed a 6 seed on the worst side of the bracket. Have you seen what that bracket looks like. He obviously had no say whatsoever in that seeding or influence. He is not allowed to even participate in those discussions.

Next, if you guys deserved a seed over the Griz then why did every single FCS expert (Sam with Hero Sports, Craig Haley, Colter Nuanez, and Brian McLaughlin) have the Griz getting a higher seed than EWU in their projected brackets. Every single one. They are the experts of FCS football and had the Griz as a 4 or 5 seed.

Last, you had a bad two game skid losing to MSU and a Weber team who is unranked….both at home. Those losses look bad especially with what the Griz just did to MSU. On top of that, you only have 8 D1 wins….not 9….you can scream 9-2 all you want but the committee doesn’t even consider the CWU win as a win.

So yes, all of that would easily give the Griz a higher seed than EWU. It’s not rocket science. And your conspiracy theory about Haslam somehow sabotaging you guys is some legit mental health issue status. You may need to see someone.

I don't care about Haslam. He was obviously ineffective in supporting EWU to get a seed, which they deserved. So, he's useless as a representative of the BSC in the process. Just one more UM failure to add to the list.

Why are you still here? Shouldn't you be washing Bobby's car, or plucking his nose hairs?

Go back to your inbred forum. Quit trying to justify your team's gift. Just live with it.

See you in a couple weeks.

 

[LDopaPDX]

The funny thing is I like Bobby Hauck. He's a nice guy. I'm sure he knows what other coaches know, Eastern is pretty good. Maybe we aren't the best team in World, but no one in the FCS is.

By the way, double-check your sources.

Here's Craig Haley's prediction from last night:

https://theanalyst.com/na/2021/11/fcs-football-bracketology-projecting-the-2021-playoff-field/
South Dakota at Montana State winner at No. 5 seed Eastern Washington

Here's HeroSports predictions from last night:
https://herosports.com/fcs-football-2021-final-playoff-predictions-bzbz/
EWU seeded #8

I said before I'll say again... if there is some measurable that makes Montana a little more worthy of a higher seed, I could live with it. The game is settled on the field. But taking Montana as a seed and pushing Eastern out of any seed at all is absurdity. The pundits and polls agree. The NCAA's own internal poll had Eastern at #6. The committee came out and invalidated each and every poll and metric and decided Eastern wasn't deserving of a top 8 seed, despite having the same record against tougher strength of schedule than EVERY. OTHER. BIG SKY. TEAM.

If you're telling me Haslam didn't push for that as the BIG SKY REPRESENTATIVE, that's a bad look. He was viewed as the foremost opinion in the committee from the Big Sky. That's his fucking job on that committee. Why else is he there?

If he just grew a pair and said "I don't think Eastern is any good, therefore no seed for them," I'd disagree. But at least man up and say it. To just work in the committee to push Eastern into the worst possible position is the coward's way out.