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Preseason Rankings

Screamin_Eagle174 said:
marceagfan5 said:
EWURanger said:
LDopaPDX said:
FWIW, it sounds like Vernon Adams isn't exactly ceding the starting job to Padron. Appears he's making his own case why he should start, or at least find a way to be an impact player from the bench. Never a problem having two very qualified QBs...

Yep. I called that one back in Spring ball. Some people think it's a given KP will be the starter. It isn't.

Like I've said many times before, even if Adams isn't the starter, they WILL find a way to get him on the field in some capacity...whether that be situational, or whatever. He's too talented to keep on the sidelines.

Adams will see the field, he may not be named the starter, but he will see the field in some sort of role, he is too good not too. I see a possible "wild eagle" formation coming this year with Adams. Its nice to know that we have 3 quality QB's this year.

I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, but we could call it the "Black Falcon." :D

Dutch...racist. :ohno:
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
kalm said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Wow you guys just dont get it.

As a group there is no doubt in my mind the secondary is head and shoulders above last season. Our CBs as a pair are light years ahead of TJ and whoever played on the other side last year.

Also Padron isnt going to pan out for you guys.

You have had a good run with above average QBs and this is the year it doesnt work, he will get hurt or just not click, something is going to happen but he wont emulate Meyers, Nichols, or BLM. I know you guys already know that but I figured I would tell you anyway.

Noted for future bump.


Kalm, since you are the only reasonable one here I am telling you that we wont miss TJ because Nate Harris is MORE talented than TJ and he is definitely faster. The only thing TJ has on Harris is size. So that side of the field is a wash. We have definitely improved the other side with Dennard, Murray, and Goodwin. When we need speed and size we can look to Justin Whitted who is coming back from an injury. All 4 of those guys are better than whoever played there last year.

Safety is stocked with Hermanson returning and newcomers Lebsock and Coogan and Tully who started there last year. We need depth there because Coogan wont make it through the year, he hits too hard and is already in a neck brace from leveling one of our TEs in a scrimmage.

Our defense will be better than it was last year.

Something tells me you guys will be more than a little chippy. Until your D craps the bed and goes through a true rebuilding year i'll expect it to be good. WGS is worth 5 wins. It sounds like the new head coach will bring stability. I see 5-1 at home and 3-2 on the road with losses @ APP, here, and against the cats although I think you could easily interchange the cat loss with a surprise loss to UND or SUU.

I'll give you a punchers chance in Cheney but I think there's a greater chance of Padron living up to expectations than all of the starters you're replacing.

To quote Gus Avrakotos..."we shall see."

BTW, flattery will get a few pops thrown your way at my tailgate. :mrgreen:
 
eaglesfootball said:
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Also Padron isnt going to pan out for you guys.

You have had a good run with above average QBs and this is the year it doesnt work, he will get hurt or just not click, something is going to happen but he wont emulate Meyers, Nichols, or BLM. I know you guys already know that but I figured I would tell you anyway.

he doesnt need to be any of those guys. He just needs to be Kyle Padron, and if he can play to his ability that will be enough.

I know that Alpha is simply trolling - he knows that Padron is going to put up great numbers - but the most ridiculous part of his statement about transfer QBs not always working out, is the Griz just got a "transfer" QB. I use transfer lightly in this instance, because he was a walk on who never saw the field, unlike Padron who played for almost two full seasons and put up damn good numbers against much better competition than the BSC has to offer. But despite all that, their QB is going to be the best QB ever, and Padron will suck. :roll: :dunce: :lol:
 
These preseason polls are sooo bogus. After all of the termoil in Montana and they are still ranking above the Eagles?? NO WAY!
I do respect the coaches opinions' more than most media, with the exception of Jim Allen of course, but it is obvious the Grizzlies could announce that the drill team will be the starters and would still be overrated.
 
ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
Wow you guys just dont get it.

As a group there is no doubt in my mind the secondary is head and shoulders above last season. Our CBs as a pair are light years ahead of TJ and whoever played on the other side last year.

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ALPHAGRIZ1 said:
So other than our QB situation can you name one position that we didnt improve on from last year even with the people we lost?

CB - Nope, we lost TJ and gained Nate Harris and I will even be so bold as to say as a group we are WAY better at Cb than we were last year. Goodwin, Dennard and Murray are very solid and give us depth we didnt have last year.

S - We lost McCord (Thank God) and have our true sophomore from last year Hermanson returning along with Tully who got torched in the SHSU game. We have a stud in waiting Lebsock who is always around the ball he seems to be playing a S/LB hybrid at times so far this fall and he is possibly the most talented Lebsock we have ever had. JC Transfer Coogan is a HAMMER he is 2 weeks in and already the WR and TEs are fearing this dude he lays it out there, if he gets this down hopefully Tully is an after thought.

LB - We lost McSurdy and have 7 guys that would start on any other team in the BSC Tripp, Kanongataa, Coyle, Stuberg, Holt, Owen and Kose all have playing time under their belt, the have speed.

DL - We lost Waldo and Alt but return Harris, Wagenmann and Bienemann who all got significant playing time last year. Add into the mix a guy who is a true freshman that has been virtually unblockable this fall Tyrone Holmes. This kid is explosive off the end and we havent had a guy like this in YEARS playing DE for us. We have great size on the DL with Takai (315) and Ginn (308) so try and move that out of the way.

OL - we lost a few guys but this years starters played a lot last year and are better as the group that ran the ball down yours and MSUs throats. Sabin, Kistler Oiland, Poehls and the Hines twins give us much more depth and versatility than last year. Also the true freshman MCCauley Todd is a steal from Iowa he comes in at 6'8 295 and has possibly the best feet on the OL.

RB - We return Canada, Nguyen and Moore, but Walden, Kirschner got playing time last year so we are 5 deep plus Nelo Butler is back from a knee injury and looks as good as any of our starters and M&M (mini Moore) from Arizona is a stud waiting to happen Joey Counts is a beast and all around the best RB we have and he may not even get a sniff because of the depth and the fact he is a true freshman.

QB - JJ goes down with legal troubles and we bring in Brezczek he is just a better version of JJ with a stronger arm and just as accurate. The rest of our QBs are not that good.

WR - next to QB the weakest part of our team. We lost Moutra and Sambrano and replaced them with more size and speed. Haynes and Saylor are studs, you guys will find that out soon enough, then we have Gratton and Carver that got playing time last year in the slot. We have added Ellis Henderson and Taylor Walcott that have size and more speed than the starters and I would bet both get some playing time this fall because they are too good as freshmen to not play.

We have a better punter than last year Shaw is 6'3" 235lbs and booms routine 55-60 with GREAT hang time so I expect that part of our special teams to improve dramatically.

K- Lider seems to have this locked down, he is a left footed kicker and is very accurate from 30 in. and I have seen him make a 48 yarder in practice but he would never be consistent at that range in a game situation at this stage of his career


You guys know me, you know Im honest and call out the Griz when things are not sugar covered rainbows like the rest of the idiot Griz fans. So really, enlighten me as too why we wont be a VERY solid football team again this fall? The off season stuff was months ago, the coaching stuff was months ago and trust me Delaney isnt a step down from Pflu, hes a step up in accountability and toughness, IMO hes better than Hauck and Pflu and we definitely upgraded our OC position with Timm Rosenbach.

I havent been this excited about a Griz team since 1996 and possibly 2001. The talent, size and SPEED that Pflu brought in have never been on a Griz team like this since I have been watching (1983ish)

If this team stays healty and progresses like good teams do this could be the best team overall we have ever had at UM. Bold words? Hell yes but I am dead serious.

You want some?

COME GET SOME!

BUMP. :coffee:
 

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