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Sacramento State football sizes up local prospects

Kadeezy

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Kudos to Schu for the coverage!

Maybe since Bill Bradley is no more he's allowed to write us up more often... Hahaha

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/01/18/3331076/sacramento-state-football-sizes.html#

By John Schumacher
[email protected]
Published: Tuesday, Jan. 18, 2011 - 12:00 am | Page 1C

Sacramento State's football coaches head down the stretch of their recruiting season searching for wide receivers, defensive linemen and a certain quarterback just named MaxPreps.com National Player of the Year.

NCAA rules prohibit college coaches from talking about recruits until the incoming player has signed a letter of intent, which can't happen until Feb. 2.

The Hornets would love for one of their 18 available scholarships to go to Folsom High School quarterback Dano Graves, who is also considering Air Force and Portland State.

They just can't say that.

"We've made an emphasis on receivers and defensive linemen," Sac State coach Marshall Sperbeck said. "Those are two areas on each side of the ball we really need to fill some voids, not for this year, but for the future. Next would be to find a quarterback that we can rally around and affect the future of our program."

The Hornets, who return eight starters on offense and seven on defense from a 6-5 team that tied for third place in the Big Sky Conference, have verbal commitments from seven players, including 6-foot-2, 200-pound quarterback Jake Geringer from Newbury Park High School.

Graves, though, is at the top of Sac State's wish list heading toward signing day. The 5-9 standout threw for 3,702 yards and 62 touchdowns and ran for 994 yards and 23 scores in leading the Bulldogs to a 14-1 record and a state Division II bowl victory.

The Hornets' starting quarterback, Jeff Fleming, is a senior and a second-team all-Big Sky selection with the ability to throw and run. Sac State tweaked its offense to take advantage of Fleming's elusiveness and would likely do the same for Graves.

Projected backup Tommy Edwards, a redshirt last season who transferred from the Citadel, will be a sophomore. Sophomores Dominic Carmazzi and Garrett Safron are also on the roster.

If Graves chooses Sac State, he could step into the starting job when Fleming leaves. That would depend on what kind of impression he made on Sperbeck, who also serves as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach.

"For us, it's finding that guy that has a great combination of being able to lead your team and throw the football … but also being able to move the chains and athletically be able to make a difference on the field," said Sperbeck, a former quarterback at Nevada. "When things broke down, Jeff (Fleming) was able to make something happen. … The more you can have a guy do those things makes you that much better."

Sac State boasts a deep receiving group set to lose several players after next season, including projected starters Brandyn Reed, John Hendershott and Chase Deadder. Hence the emphasis on that position this recruiting season.

The defensive line must replace tackle Christian Clark for next season and ends Zack Nash and David Coleman for 2012.

The Hornets also want to maintain a strong local presence.

"I think it's huge," Sperbeck said. "We've been trying and working a lot of local kids. A lot of them want to go away and experience that. We respect that.

"We have a good class that's developing here, but nothing is certain until signing day."

Running backs coach Aaron Ingram, who also serves as the Hornets' recruiting coordinator, said the uncertainty adds to the intrigue.

"This time of year it's pretty exciting because it changes every day," Ingram said. "It's 24/7 right now, which is kind of fun.

"You get to pick your team."

Unless those kids pick someone else.
 
Solid article.

The Hornets would love for one of their 18 available scholarships to go to...

I didn’t think they would have this many scholarships available. National Signing Day is Feb 2nd so we should know who the Hornets land in a couple of weeks. Not a whole lot of needs for the upcoming season but this is definitely a time where Sperbeck and Co can stock up on talent and add some depth for the future.
 
This is just beautiful. Then I go over to Scout.com, and I see player after player, in our back yard, and no Sac State listed on recruiting them. Oh, but EWU, PSU, CP, UCD, UND, NDSU are recruiting and SIGNING these guys to commits. WTH? Whatever happened to nobody out recruits us in our back yard. How about a little more urgency in NOT waving goodbye to solid 2 star recruits?

Frustrating....
 
SloStang said:
According to Rivals St Mary's WR Justin Cox committed to the Hornets today.

Funny, but I just noticed the same thing and didn't see anything posted about it on this site earlier but then lo and behold I see your post.

If it's true, that's a really, really nice get for the Hornets.

Can anyone confirm for sure?
 
If Rivals is reporting it as a "solid verbal" that usually means it's a done deal... But, I guess you never know until he inks...

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Justin-Cox-111245

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1178316&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
 
HornetHope said:
This is just beautiful. Then I go over to Scout.com, and I see player after player, in our back yard, and no Sac State listed on recruiting them. Oh, but EWU, PSU, CP, UCD, UND, NDSU are recruiting and SIGNING these guys to commits. WTH? Whatever happened to nobody out recruits us in our back yard. How about a little more urgency in NOT waving goodbye to solid 2 star recruits?

Frustrating....

HornetHope just because a site doesn't have Sac St listed doesn't mean they didn't attempt. Alot of these local kids don't want to stay home.

Micheal Ayers from Laguna Creek a 6-2 200 OLB/S is scheduled to visit 1/22 also Dano Graves is scheduled to vist 1/21.

Sperbeck said in the article that they are targeting WR.
Christian Tabron a 2 star recruit made a visit on 1/14 with Justin Cox. Don't be surprised to see him commit also.
 
footballnow said:
HornetHope said:
This is just beautiful. Then I go over to Scout.com, and I see player after player, in our back yard, and no Sac State listed on recruiting them. Oh, but EWU, PSU, CP, UCD, UND, NDSU are recruiting and SIGNING these guys to commits. WTH? Whatever happened to nobody out recruits us in our back yard. How about a little more urgency in NOT waving goodbye to solid 2 star recruits?

Frustrating....

HornetHope just because a site doesn't have Sac St listed doesn't mean they didn't attempt. Alot of these local kids don't want to stay home.

Micheal Ayers from Laguna Creek a 6-2 200 OLB/S is scheduled to visit 1/22 also Dano Graves is scheduled to vist 1/21.

Sperbeck said in the article that they are targeting WR.
Christian Tabron a 2 star recruit made a visit on 1/14 with Justin Cox. Don't be surprised to see him commit also.

Looks like a nice prospect...http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=5066185

Patrick Willis (SF All-PRO LB) was a two-star out of High School as well...

http://mississippi.scout.com/a.z?s=177&p=8&c=1&nid=223044
 
footballnow said:
HornetHope said:
This is just beautiful. Then I go over to Scout.com, and I see player after player, in our back yard, and no Sac State listed on recruiting them. Oh, but EWU, PSU, CP, UCD, UND, NDSU are recruiting and SIGNING these guys to commits. WTH? Whatever happened to nobody out recruits us in our back yard. How about a little more urgency in NOT waving goodbye to solid 2 star recruits?

Frustrating....

HornetHope just because a site doesn't have Sac St listed doesn't mean they didn't attempt. Alot of these local kids don't want to stay home.

Micheal Ayers from Laguna Creek a 6-2 200 OLB/S is scheduled to visit 1/22 also Dano Graves is scheduled to vist 1/21.

Sperbeck said in the article that they are targeting WR.
Christian Tabron a 2 star recruit made a visit on 1/14 with Justin Cox. Don't be surprised to see him commit also.
I checked out the SJSU and Fresno State recruit pages on scout.com. (Nevada doesn’t have a link and neither do any FCS schools) A significant number of their recruits have Sac State listed in the “schools of interest” category. We just have to wait and see who commits. Nothing will be official until the first wave of recruits sign on Feb 2nd.
 
if kids are getting interest from the northern schools and not Sac, that could be an academic issue. not to say the admission standards are lower in the Dakota school system than CSU's..but...

..but...if Davis and Poly are going after them, that excuse goes out the window. maybe its a position that they aren't actively recruiting because they are well-stocked and/or already have a commit at that spot.
 
DrMike said:
if kids are getting interest from the northern schools and not Sac, that could be an academic issue. not to say the admission standards are lower in the Dakota school system than CSU's..but...

..but...if Davis and Poly are going after them, that excuse goes out the window. maybe its a position that they aren't actively recruiting because they are well-stocked and/or already have a commit at that spot.

Good point...
 
Kadeezy said:
DrMike said:
if kids are getting interest from the northern schools and not Sac, that could be an academic issue. not to say the admission standards are lower in the Dakota school system than CSU's..but...

..but...if Davis and Poly are going after them, that excuse goes out the window. maybe its a position that they aren't actively recruiting because they are well-stocked and/or already have a commit at that spot.

Good point...

Thanks guys. I was just having a Taiwan Jones flashback....and was just not wanting to see this happen again.
 
i think Taiwan is a good example of what i meant by "going North"; he originally committed (signed?) with Washington State, but, didn't qualify. But, he was able to sign with EWU. If i understand my pacific northwest education, WU and WSU are the UC 'similars' (PhD granting institutes), while CWU, WWU, EWU are CSU 'simlars' (masters granting).

to be honest, i have never checked the academic requirements UC vs UW, or CSU vs geographic-W, but, i know UC requirements are among the highest nationwide; CSU's aren't much different.
 
I recall while watching the EWU-Nevada game, the announcers mentioned Jones attended the UNR football camp and was voted top athlete (or something along those lines) but UNR didn’t even give him an offer. It could have been academic related.
 
DrMike said:
i think Taiwan is a good example of what i meant by "going North"; he originally committed (signed?) with Washington State, but, didn't qualify. But, he was able to sign with EWU. If i understand my pacific northwest education, WU and WSU are the UC 'similars' (PhD granting institutes), while CWU, WWU, EWU are CSU 'simlars' (masters granting).

to be honest, i have never checked the academic requirements UC vs UW, or CSU vs geographic-W, but, i know UC requirements are among the highest nationwide; CSU's aren't much different.

While I can't speak for the Washington directional schools, I CAN say that Sac is NOT "just" a master's granting university. Sac has a few doctorates to offer, viz the Ed.D. in Community College Administration and K-12 Administration, and the Ph.D. in Public History.
 
gotcha, Super..i know that the CSU's have been granting selected PhD's and EdD's the past few years. maybe i should have said that they were set up as the California system was originally designed. no ding intended..just trying to make a comparison of the state systems here and there.
 
DrMike said:
if kids are getting interest from the northern schools and not Sac, that could be an academic issue. not to say the admission standards are lower in the Dakota school system than CSU's..but...

..but...if Davis and Poly are going after them, that excuse goes out the window. maybe its a position that they aren't actively recruiting because they are well-stocked and/or already have a commit at that spot.

The standards could be low, however, demand changes the minimum standards. If you have more people applying than you have room for, those minimum standards go out the window. This has been the case for Sac State in recent years and has been the case for SDSU, CSULB, and SJSU. They all have the same "standards" for admission, however they have more people apllying than they have room for. Supply and demand, however, in this scenario, the price doesnt necessarily go up. It's just tougher to get accepted.

Academic rigor also varies from institution to institution and from major to major. That probably plays more of a role in where an athlete chooses to play rather than admissions standards.

The Dakota's, and for that matter Wyoming, are notorious for admitting students that otherwise would not get accepted anywhere else due to their respective states' populations and the need to generate more revenue via out-of-state tuition.

The minimum gpa for a DI scholarship is 2.5. That exceeds the minimum standards at most state universities around the country. GPA is less of an issue for athletes than it is for freshmen and transfers.
 
StungAlum said:
DrMike said:
if kids are getting interest from the northern schools and not Sac, that could be an academic issue. not to say the admission standards are lower in the Dakota school system than CSU's..but...

..but...if Davis and Poly are going after them, that excuse goes out the window. maybe its a position that they aren't actively recruiting because they are well-stocked and/or already have a commit at that spot.

The standards could be low, however, demand changes the minimum standards. If you have more people applying than you have room for, those minimum standards go out the window. This has been the case for Sac State in recent years and has been the case for SDSU, CSULB, and SJSU. They all have the same "standards" for admission, however they have more people apllying than they have room for. Supply and demand, however, in this scenario, the price doesnt necessarily go up. It's just tougher to get accepted.

Academic rigor also varies from institution to institution and from major to major. That probably plays more of a role in where an athlete chooses to play rather than admissions standards.

The Dakota's, and for that matter Wyoming, are notorious for admitting students that otherwise would not get accepted anywhere else due to their respective states' populations and the need to generate more revenue via out-of-state tuition.

The minimum gpa for a DI scholarship is 2.5. That exceeds the minimum standards at most state universities around the country. GPA is less of an issue for athletes than it is for freshmen and transfers.


That is why Cal Poly has higher standards, not because they arent a CSU, but because they have high demand for people attending. When more people want in then there are seats, presto, you are now selective.
 
Green Cookie Monster said:
StungAlum said:
DrMike said:
if kids are getting interest from the northern schools and not Sac, that could be an academic issue. not to say the admission standards are lower in the Dakota school system than CSU's..but...

..but...if Davis and Poly are going after them, that excuse goes out the window. maybe its a position that they aren't actively recruiting because they are well-stocked and/or already have a commit at that spot.

The standards could be low, however, demand changes the minimum standards. If you have more people applying than you have room for, those minimum standards go out the window. This has been the case for Sac State in recent years and has been the case for SDSU, CSULB, and SJSU. They all have the same "standards" for admission, however they have more people apllying than they have room for. Supply and demand, however, in this scenario, the price doesnt necessarily go up. It's just tougher to get accepted.

Academic rigor also varies from institution to institution and from major to major. That probably plays more of a role in where an athlete chooses to play rather than admissions standards.

The Dakota's, and for that matter Wyoming, are notorious for admitting students that otherwise would not get accepted anywhere else due to their respective states' populations and the need to generate more revenue via out-of-state tuition.

The minimum gpa for a DI scholarship is 2.5. That exceeds the minimum standards at most state universities around the country. GPA is less of an issue for athletes than it is for freshmen and transfers.


That is why Cal Poly has higher standards, not because they arent a CSU, but because they have high demand for people attending. When more people want in then there are seats, presto, you are now selective.

Exactly, and I apologize for leaving Cal Poly out of my post, they deserved to be listed.
 
Looks like we are fighting for another recruit according to Rivals.com. 5'11" 270 DT Marcus Paige-Allen from Sheldon High School has offers from both Sac State (visited 1/14) and Cal Poly (visiting 1/21).

Rivals link: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Marcus-Paige-Allen-101206
 

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