Sears to Remain Head Coach

[AlumniWSU]

i am not sure what to say. are people overall happy this our new coach or no?

At least a ray of sunshine..glad I'm proven wrong in prediction of same staff..now find a good DC..think the new OC can't do any worse..reading Grizz fan's input is naturally mixed on losing him..there's some hope here..maybe :|

 

[wsufootball]

Hammer has been replaced with the former Offensive Coordinator from Montana.

 

[wsucatfan]

I am very disappointed. Sears is a nice guy but he finished last. So if I understand this correctly, a 2 and 9 record is enough to get a contract extension? Mediocrity has returned to Weber football. hno:

:wall: nice call... you and several others called it back in 2012

 

[PurpleBlood]

Keeping him on after last season is what Idaho State would do. It's not like he inherited a bad football team. We had a senior QB and a ton of talent. If Sears was our guy we would have known it last season. A great coach gets things headed in the right direction usually in his first or second season.

 

[oldrunner]

Football programs take longer to rebuild than any other sport. In many sports, one good recruiting year can get you back into it. In football, that isn't the case, you need to develop depth, strength, and senior leadership over time. I certainly didn't expect a huge turnaround this year. I did expect a little more of a competitive attitude to be displayed on the field. I think that we need to give this coaching staff a couple more years before we try to throw anyone under the bus.

Lets try to enjoy this for what it is, a rebuilding process. :thumb:

 

[sadkitty64]

Football programs take longer to rebuild than any other sport. In many sports, one good recruiting year can get you back into it. In football, that isn't the case, you need to develop depth, strength, and senior leadership over time. I certainly didn't expect a huge turnaround this year. I did expect a little more of a competitive attitude to be displayed on the field. I think that we need to give this coaching staff a couple more years before we try to throw anyone under the bus.

Lets try to enjoy this for what it is, a rebuilding process. :thumb:

Your stuff is pretty good Oldrunner. And yes in most cases you are absolutely right. Not this time!!!! I agree, when rebuilding a team, you've got to give the coach a couple years. Why am I angry though? Here is what makes me so mad about this case, Weber State Football 2013. Weber Football shouldn't have to be rebuilding. The players were in place, football had the talent to go to the next level. Since 2004, football has only gotten better, until last year. I blame this mess on the administration who was trying to pull a Utah and Urbanize the program, like the univeristy of utah did. Well, we done screwed ourselves over in the process, and now we are back to where we were in 2004. McBride is a really smart and good coach. He did have to rebuild our football team in 2004, but Graybeal didn't leave the cupboards bare. He had good players and McBride was able to build off of what was left to him. Not only that, but McBride recruited local players and lineman first. Sears had a lot of talent and went 2-9 with that talent. Now the players making the most big plays are McBride boys. My point is, Weber Football did not need to be rebuilt. It was already built and has imploded under Sears. Bovee is very much to blame. I don't care how nice the stadium looks, if the scores are embarassing losses to the Hornets, Bears of Greely, and soon to be Southern Utah. We don't lose to those teams at home and now we do. Awesome, we have a nice stadium. I go to game for the new bathrooms, not the game. Okay!! We go to the games for the product on the field, so it is easy to assume no one will be returning and our fan base will continue to shrink.

 

[talhadfoursteals]

Football programs take longer to rebuild than any other sport. In many sports, one good recruiting year can get you back into it. In football, that isn't the case, you need to develop depth, strength, and senior leadership over time. I certainly didn't expect a huge turnaround this year. I did expect a little more of a competitive attitude to be displayed on the field. I think that we need to give this coaching staff a couple more years before we try to throw anyone under the bus.

Lets try to enjoy this for what it is, a rebuilding process. :thumb:

Your stuff is pretty good Oldrunner. And yes in most cases you are absolutely right. Not this time!!!! I agree, when rebuilding a team, you've got to give the coach a couple years. Why am I angry though? Here is what makes me so mad about this case, Weber State Football 2013. Weber Football shouldn't have to be rebuilding. The players were in place, football had the talent to go to the next level. Since 2004, football has only gotten better, until last year. I blame this mess on the administration who was trying to pull a Utah and Urbanize the program, like the univeristy of utah did. Well, we done screwed ourselves over in the process, and now we are back to where we were in 2004. McBride is a really smart and good coach. He did have to rebuild our football team in 2004, but Graybeal didn't leave the cupboards bare. He had good players and McBride was able to build off of what was left to him. Not only that, but McBride recruited local players and lineman first. Sears had a lot of talent and went 2-9 with that talent. Now the players making the most big plays are McBride boys. My point is, Weber Football did not need to be rebuilt. It was already built and has imploded under Sears. Bovee is very much to blame. I don't care how nice the stadium looks, if the scores are embarassing losses to the Hornets, Bears of Greely, and soon to be Southern Utah. We don't lose to those teams at home and now we do. Awesome, we have a nice stadium. I go to game for the new bathrooms, not the game. Okay!! We go to the games for the product on the field, so it is easy to assume no one will be returning and our fan base will continue to shrink.

You do make some good points. Why all this talk about rebuilding, when our team didn't need to be rebuilt at the end of the 2011 season. hno:

 

[WeberSki]

Football programs take longer to rebuild than any other sport. In many sports, one good recruiting year can get you back into it. In football, that isn't the case, you need to develop depth, strength, and senior leadership over time. I certainly didn't expect a huge turnaround this year. I did expect a little more of a competitive attitude to be displayed on the field. I think that we need to give this coaching staff a couple more years before we try to throw anyone under the bus.

Lets try to enjoy this for what it is, a rebuilding process. :thumb:

Olds while I do enjoy your insight on the hoops forum, you may need to post under another moniker over here, how about "SenileRunner" If Sears isn't replaced by phlugrad at the end of the season, Weber needs to drop its football program. It's an embarrassment to the University, and I would argue the hoops, and other University programs as well.

 

[oldrunner]

One thing I do know for certain, a new coach every year or every other year, is a blue print for disaster. (Can you say UU basketball?)

We may be a disaster now, but a new coach may just perpetuate that. After our run in with Satan, yes we are rebuilding. Like it or not, we have very little depth, strength, or leadership on this team. Yes, the coaches are responsible for some of it. Our youth and lack of experience is responsible for a lot of it.

Be careful what you wish for..., you just might get your wish!

 

[SWWeatherCat]

One thing I do know for certain, a new coach every year or every other year, is a blue print for disaster. (Can you say UU basketball?)

We may be a disaster now, but a new coach may just perpetuate that. After our run in with Satan, yes we are rebuilding. Like it or not, we have very little depth, strength, or leadership on this team. Yes, the coaches are responsible for some of it. Our youth and lack of experience is responsible for a lot of it.

Be careful what you wish for..., you just might get your wish!

Normally, I'd tend to agree but as you pointed out they are in a disaster now and it really can't get any worse, it really can't. Throw out the scores-- I've never seen such a poor display of Weber State football fundamentals, mechanics, and play calling (and I'm a Matt Hammer survivor) in the 30+ years I've faithfully watched them play.

Pflu is an unproven commodity, at least as far as Weber State is concerned, but he has been a BSC head football coach and not had his team implode. I don't know if I think he's the best choice to replace Sears but I can't fathom why anyone would stick with him for another few years. He inherited a tough situation and I have nothing personal against him-- he seems like a nice guy-- but, unfortunately, in this football business he hasn't shown any signs of being able to right this ship. None.

 

[oldrunner]

SW;

You might be right. It may not get any worse than this. The big unknown is whether it will get better by making a change or staying the course. It's a gamble either way. That is all I'm saying. It's sort of an unwritten rule, in the coaching and administration ranks, that you give a guy a chance to build his own ship before you try to sink it. It just does not seem fair otherwise. Sears has had just one recruiting class. It would be like firing your contractor right after he put the footings in. It might be the right thing to do, but other contractors are going to be reluctant to work for you. And, what is the message you are sending to players and recruits when you do something like that. :thumbdown:

 

[sadkitty64]

SW;

You might be right. It may not get any worse than this. The big unknown is whether it will get better by making a change or staying the course. It's a gamble either way. That is all I'm saying. It's sort of an unwritten rule, in the coaching and administration ranks, that you give a guy a chance to build his own ship before you try to sink it. It just does not seem fair otherwise. Sears has had just one recruiting class. It would be like firing your contractor right after he put the footings in. It might be the right thing to do, but other contractors are going to be reluctant to work for you. And, what is the message you are sending to players and recruits when you do something like that. :thumbdown:

So instead of cutting the rot out immediately, you let the whole apple go? My wife and I were so embarrassed on Saturday that we left after the second quarter. My son asked if we could go to USU games from now on, because they win and are fun to watch. He is 9 and he gets it.

Recruits won't come if the program stinks.

 

[SWWeatherCat]

SW;
... It's sort of an unwritten rule, in the coaching and administration ranks, that you give a guy a chance to build his own ship before you try to sink it. It just does not seem fair otherwise. ... :thumbdown:

It's a little ironic that with football Weber has been screwed over by coaches either using the school to springboard themselves elsewhere or, more frequently, by those raiding the sidelines (yeah, I'm looking at you USU). :steal: issed:

 

[WSUfan1]

Unfortunately, I think Olds is right. As hard as it is to imagine, this team is "rebuilding." The team has had to rebuild since the departure of Mac. I heard that Mac "stepped down," so someone else could take the team to a "new level." Unfortunately, even Mac was rebuilding his last two years here. His record of 6-5 was not that impressive in 2010 as his 2008 record and people on this board were very upset the team missed the playoffs, and some called for MAc to be fired if I remember correctly. The last game of 2010 was a 64-21 beat down by Texas Tech. The following year was a very unproductive year, finishing the season at 5-6, largely in part to CJ Tuckett emerging in the last few games. Then JLS came aboard, cut some great players and only had a few months to recruit players. He was in charge of "rebuilding" the team and elevating the program. So basically JLS inherited a 5-6 team, then cut some kids, only had a limited time to recruit, then ditched the program, and the emergence of Sears came to be. It was then Sears turn to "elevate" the team. He was given a huge task. He fell short, and is trying to get the team/program on the rebound. Not too many were calling for Sears head after we beat SFA. Basically, I am seeing people on here thinking Sears inherited a championship caliber team, when in fact, he received a 5-6 team, with a losing record. I do not think Mac, if he came back could bring the team up to a .500 team. He is older than most grandpas, at 73. His career record at WSU was barely above .500 as it was. He never beat a FBS team. I do not blame Bovee for this mess, if anyone is to blame its, JLS. I do not believe Bovee could foresee JLS leaving for an SEC school, Arkansas. There are still many games to be played, hopefully Sears can turn this season into a respectable one. It sounds like sadkity is just another fair weather fan, leaving at halftime, to a 14-0 game. :? How can we hold Sears to a high standard when "fans" are leaving before halftime? Like I have said before, playing the two FBS was a must do, we need the money to even fund a team. I would like to know which players coming back on the 2012 team, were capable of winning a championship? Yes, Hoke was okay, but he didnt have many weapons at WR, and CJ was the best back. I do agree that Sears needs to recruit lineman first. I think Mac put 3-4 into the NFL. Mac is not the key in this mess, its consistency year in an year out. New coach after new coach does not build a championship team. Obviously, building a program the correct way, which I believe Sears is trying to do does. Mac already peaked out with his teams, and now we need Sears or someone to get us back to the winning ways. N.Ogdencat, after 2011, yes the program needed to rebuild, if you are okay with a 5-6 season, then all the power to you. Olds, I do agree with you on this. People are frustrated and are not thinking to logical about this. I wish like all of you, that we were contending for a championship year in and year out. I loved Mac when we was coaching, but he isnt the coach anymore. Either support Sears and this team, or be like sadkity and go watch the faggies in Logan. Things are not going to turn around overnight, or maybe this season, but we will get there, and I believe that. :thumb:

 

[AlumniWSU]

Well stated 'WSUfan' :thumb:

 

[WeberSki]

All I know is that this will be the second season I won't be attending any games.

 

[wsucatfan]

:wtf: Losing isn't funny coach, You should be pissed off.

Weber State head coach Sears keeps humor intact

Jim Allen The Spokesman-Review

At least Jody Sears hasn’t lost his sense of humor.

His Weber State football team is 1-4, has been outscored 214-22 in its last four games and is coming off its worst home loss in almost a decade.

Losses to FBS in-state rivals Utah (70-7) and Utah State (70-6) were followed by a 43-6 setback at 12th-ranked FCS power McNeese State and, last weekend, a 31-3 home loss to a Sacramento State team that two weeks earlier gave up eight touchdowns to Division II Southern Oregon.

The Wildcats’ schedule “is like drinking from a hot fire hose when you’re thirsty,” joked Sears, whose Wildcats are parched for wins going into Saturday’s game against sixth-ranked Eastern Washington at Roos Field.
...

Moreover, the Wildcats are starting true freshman quarterback Austin Chipoletti for the fourth straight game after an injury to senior Jordan Adamczyk, who left the program this week.

Despite a capable running back in Bo Bolen (5.2 yards per carry), the Wildcats rank last in the Big Sky in most offensive categories, including 23.9 percent (21 for 88) on third-down conversions.

Sears sees nothing ahead but “teachable moments” for Chipoletti, who is 36 for 75 (48 percent) for 273 yards and three interceptions. Baldwin sees an offense with some similarities to Sam Houston State’s option attack that put up 556 yards on the Eagles.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/oct/02/weber-state-head-coach-sears-keeps-humor-intact/

 

[SWWeatherCat]

Sorry, but I have to comment about some of your points...

... (Mac's) record of 6-5 was not that impressive in 2010 as his 2008 record and people on this board were very upset the team missed the playoffs, and some called for MAc to be fired if I remember correctly.

You can count me as a fan who was disappointed but not upset at Mac. I was actually unsure about Mac's hire mainly due to his age (and somewhat due to my dislike of the pukes.) He won me over immediately, in part, because of his magnetic personality, but mostly because it was immediately easy to see the great changes he was making happen in nearly every aspect of the program.

... Not too many were calling for Sears head after we beat SFA. Basically, I am seeing people on here thinking Sears inherited a championship caliber team, when in fact, he received a 5-6 team, with a losing record.

It's not just about the wins/losses but whether or not you can see improvement or a movement in a direction you think is good. I had low expectations for Weber this year (much like the Jazz) with regards to wins/losses/conference standings, however, I do expect competency from collegiate players, scholarship and non-scholarship players alike. After plunking down a wad of cash for tickets, I do expect an acceptable return of my "entertainment" investment. For me, I expect to see capable coaches and players making improvement and playing exciting football. I was shocked when Weber was scoring at will in the first half of the SFA game and thought Pflu was going to be a gift from UM. I was in disbelief the second-half when the offense seemed to have run out of gas and the defense apparently thought 2 quarters was enough. Little did I realize that second half was the team I would be paying to watch for the rest of the season.

... It sounds like sadkity is just another fair weather fan, leaving at halftime, to a 14-0 game. :? How can we hold Sears to a high standard when "fans" are leaving before halftime?

I wouldn't be too quick to label and put someone down for their own decisions about what they expect to get in return for their investment $$$. I can't blame sadkity one bit after I watched 14-16 quarters of the same horrific football. I'm not talking about some bad scores against some stiff competition or a few consecutive L's, I can and have dealt with that over the years; I'm talking about easily the worse Wildcat football I've seen played and it seemingly got worse each week. I don't like a movie, I'll leave; I don't like the food at a restaurant, see ya; If I can't stomach another 30 minutes of total incompetence on a football field, there's other entertainment out there. It doesn't mean I don't still love my school and teams, it's just not something I'm satisfied with and want to waste my time on.

... People are frustrated and are not thinking to logical about this. I wish like all of you, that we were contending for a championship year in and year out. I loved Mac when we was coaching, but he isnt the coach anymore. Either support Sears and this team, or be like sadkity and go watch the aggies in Logan.

I am frustrated and thinking logically but just happen to have a different opinion than you. I know there hasn't been and likely never will be a time when Weber is contending for a championship year in and out and I'm fine with that. I can find great joy in cheering Weber on through a mediocre season as long as they are competitive and entertaining. I loved when Mac was coaching, too, and he did great things at Weber State, but you're right: he isn't coach anymore nor is he coming back, and that's OK. I kinda take offense when given an ultimatum to either support Sears and the team or be labeled and invited to go elsewhere to watch football. Seriously? I can disagree with you, not think Sears and/or the players are making any improvement at all, walk out of a game, root for (yet another) coaching change, and still love and support my team just the same.

 

[wsucatfan]

Sorry, but I have to comment about some of your points...

... (Mac's) record of 6-5 was not that impressive in 2010 as his 2008 record and people on this board were very upset the team missed the playoffs, and some called for MAc to be fired if I remember correctly.

You can count me as a fan who was disappointed but not upset at Mac. I was actually unsure about Mac's hire mainly due to his age (and somewhat due to my dislike of the pukes.) He won me over immediately, in part, because of his magnetic personality, but mostly because it was immediately easy to see the great changes he was making happen in nearly every aspect of the program.

... Not too many were calling for Sears head after we beat SFA. Basically, I am seeing people on here thinking Sears inherited a championship caliber team, when in fact, he received a 5-6 team, with a losing record.

It's not just about the wins/losses but whether or not you can see improvement or a movement in a direction you think is good. I had low expectations for Weber this year (much like the Jazz) with regards to wins/losses/conference standings, however, I do expect competency from collegiate players, scholarship and non-scholarship players alike. After plunking down a wad of cash for tickets, I do expect an acceptable return of my "entertainment" investment. For me, I expect to see capable coaches and players making improvement and playing exciting football. I was shocked when Weber was scoring at will in the first half of the SFA game and thought Pflu was going to be a gift from UM. I was in disbelief the second-half when the offense seemed to have run out of gas and the defense apparently thought 2 quarters was enough. Little did I realize that second half was the team I would be paying to watch for the rest of the season.

... It sounds like sadkity is just another fair weather fan, leaving at halftime, to a 14-0 game. :? How can we hold Sears to a high standard when "fans" are leaving before halftime?

I wouldn't be too quick to label and put someone down for their own decisions about what they expect to get in return for their investment $$$. I can't blame sadkity one bit after I watched 14-16 quarters of the same horrific football. I'm not talking about some bad scores against some stiff competition or a few consecutive L's, I can and have dealt with that over the years; I'm talking about easily the worse Wildcat football I've seen played and it seemingly got worse each week. I don't like a movie, I'll leave; I don't like the food at a restaurant, see ya; If I can't stomach another 30 minutes of total incompetence on a football field, there's other entertainment out there. It doesn't mean I don't still love my school and teams, it's just not something I'm satisfied with and want to waste my time on.

... People are frustrated and are not thinking to logical about this. I wish like all of you, that we were contending for a championship year in and year out. I loved Mac when we was coaching, but he isnt the coach anymore. Either support Sears and this team, or be like sadkity and go watch the aggies in Logan.

I am frustrated and thinking logically but just happen to have a different opinion than you. I know there hasn't been and likely never will be a time when Weber is contending for a championship year in and out and I'm fine with that. I can find great joy in cheering Weber on through a mediocre season as long as they are competitive and entertaining. I loved when Mac was coaching, too, and he did great things at Weber State, but you're right: he isn't coach anymore nor is he coming back, and that's OK. I kinda take offense when given an ultimatum to either support Sears and the team or be labeled and invited to go elsewhere to watch football. Seriously? I can disagree with you, not think Sears and/or the players are making any improvement at all, walk out of a game, root for (yet another) coaching change, and still love and support my team just the same.

:notworthy: Amen

 

[sadkitty64]

I don't know about nogden, but I tend to like 5-6 records more so than 1-11 or 2-9, or 2-10 records. That 5-6 record is deceiving. In 2011 Weber was only blownout once, by a Pflugrad lead team in Missoula Montana. There were three close loses that season. Weber should have beaten Eastern Washington, Southern Utah (Weber got robbed), and Wyoming. Every game, other than the Montana game, football was competitive. That is what you got with MacBride. A team that would show up and compete. I haven't seen that since August, and if you haven't noticed, getting beat by a bad Sacramento State team, at home, on homecoming never would have happened under MacBride or Graybeal. WSUFAN, is that what you like? Do you like being taken behind the woodshed by Sacramento State, at home? I don't think you get the gravity of the situation. Weber has never lost to Sacramento State at home. Not only did we lose but we got it handed to us. Worst home loss in more than a decade. We have good players, they are poorly coached. They aren't tough, disciplined, and are fundamentally lost on the field. I'm going to guess you have never played the game to assume your absolute ignorance over how bad Weber State football is right now.