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Something WSU has never done...

Game day for the Cat's against BYU. Let's hope they can keep it respectable, that's all I can hope for...
 
We are currently 13 point underdogs. I hope Braxyon can stay out of foul trouble and help us contain Mika. We can all hope....
 
wsucatfan said:
Three of the Wildcats' five losses have been by two points or fewer, making them 349th (out of 347 Division I college basketball teams) in the country in the KenPom Luck rankings.
http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4680916-155/byu-basketball-cougars-searching-for-3-point

We were pretty low in the luck rankings last year as well. The prevent offense that Rahe is becoming known for is putting us in a number of close games in the final minute. In my opinion, it is hard to attach the final possession and win when you have spent the previous 5 - 7 minutes playing passively and milking the clock down to 5 seconds and then rushing a Senglin shot.

The close games in the last two years where I think this applies are:
VS USU 2015 L
@ Denver 2015 L
Portland 2015 W
@ BYU 2015 L
@ ISU 2015 L
@ Pepperdine 2016 L
Buffalo 2016 L
VS Denver 2016 L

Is it bad luck or a trend of poor coaching late in games.
 
webergrad02 said:
wsucatfan said:
Three of the Wildcats' five losses have been by two points or fewer, making them 349th (out of 347 Division I college basketball teams) in the country in the KenPom Luck rankings.
http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4680916-155/byu-basketball-cougars-searching-for-3-point

We were pretty low in the luck rankings last year as well. The prevent offense that Rahe is becoming known for is putting us in a number of close games in the final minute. In my opinion, it is hard to attach the final possession and win when you have spent the previous 5 - 7 minutes playing passively and milking the clock down to 5 seconds and then rushing a Senglin shot.

The close games in the last two years where I think this applies are:
VS USU 2015 L
@ Denver 2015 L
Portland 2015 W
@ BYU 2015 L
@ ISU 2015 L
@ Pepperdine 2016 L
Buffalo 2016 L
VS Denver 2016 L

Is it bad luck or a trend of poor coaching late in games.
I am SOOOO sick of the prevent offense, for 11 years now and it still doesn't work. Same goes for the play they call for our last possession before the end of half. We all know the play, get the ball, run across the half court line and call time out. After the time out come out and look completely lost on what they are supposed to be doing, dribble around until you have to throw up a contested 3 that is usually an epic fail.

If I was a betting man (and I am) I would have to bet that WSU will lose 3 of its last 4 non-conference games starting tonight.
@BYU=LOSS
West Coast Baptist School for kids who cant read good=WIN
UVU=LOSS, Sadly I don't think it will even be close.
@USU=LOSS. IF WSU ever had a good chance to beat the Aggies in Lolgan it would be this year, but WSU is still stuck in Neutral at the starting line.

Im afraid WSU will go into the Conference season at 3-8. Thank goodness only the Conference Championship matters. :-D
 
You say this on the heels of posting how lucky we are to have Rahe. :wall:

Doesn't a good coach know how to call & draw up high quality plays? Doesn't a good coach have unbelievable strategies on closing out a game?

Rahe is so damn predictable is maddening...
 
WeberSki said:
You say this on the heels of posting how lucky we are to have Rahe. :wall:

Doesn't a good coach know how to call & draw up high quality plays? Doesn't a good coach have unbelievable strategies on closing out a game?

Rahe is so damn predictable is maddening...
To me Coach Rahe's positives far outweigh his negatives. Does that mean I think he is the next John Wooden? NO clearly he has some weakness in his game.
Do I think WSU is far better off with him then without him? YES. :twocents:
 
ajwildcat said:
WeberSki said:
You say this on the heels of posting how lucky we are to have Rahe. :wall:

Doesn't a good coach know how to call & draw up high quality plays? Doesn't a good coach have unbelievable strategies on closing out a game?

Rahe is so damn predictable is maddening...
To me Coach Rahe's positives far outweigh his negatives. Does that mean I think he is the next John Wooden? NO clearly he has some weakness in his game.
Do I think WSU is far better off with him then without him? YES. :twocents:

I think Randy is a good guy. However, I don't understand why he refuses to learn from past mistakes. The prevent offense works less than 20% of the time and puts us in many final possession type games. I miss the Randy of 7 - 10 years ago that put a hard nosed blue collar team out there. I do believe that Senglin has been allowed to play selfish and reckless for 4 years. He is doing the same stuff that got Sessions and Wheelwright benched.
 
Everybody in Rahes corner wants to argue about how dominant he is winning the Big Sky, & that's all that really "matters"

How dominant is R Rahe?
3 conference tourney title in 10 tries, 30% is dominant with all the advantages Weber offers over the rest of the Big Sky, (currently at 30th) one of the 2 or 3 statistically single worst conferences in the country???

Dominating the conference is what Few @ Gonzaga does. With 13 tourney titles in 16 tries 81%. He has done it with much tougher competition, & I would argue that Rahe has more advantages & resources vs. the rest of the Big Sky conference than Few @ Gonzaga has over the rest of WCC.

So if we're going to talk about conference domination, let's talk about Gonzaga, because It's not happening at Weber.
 
If there was ever a game to throw out the flashcards and run this would be the game. We have nothing to lose. I am not sure we gain alot by trying to execute the half court game against Mika and other big. UVU beat BYU by keeping calm, throwing it over the press and making easy shots.
 
ajwildcat said:
WeberSki said:
You say this on the heels of posting how lucky we are to have Rahe. :wall:

Doesn't a good coach know how to call & draw up high quality plays? Doesn't a good coach have unbelievable strategies on closing out a game?

Rahe is so damn predictable is maddening...
To me Coach Rahe's positives far outweigh his negatives. Does that mean I think he is the next John Wooden? NO clearly he has some weakness in his game.
Do I think WSU is far better off with him then without him? YES. :twocents:

:thumb: I have to agree with this sentiment. No matter...Rahe absolutely drives me nuts. His system can tend to be a bit too mechanical at times. The worst thing about the Rahe System is that he doesn't make changes based off of personnel. However, his record speaks for itself. He has accomplished quite a bit as the coach for Weber State. His system does work and, most importantly, it works against the right teams.
 
talhadfoursteals said:
ajwildcat said:
WeberSki said:
You say this on the heels of posting how lucky we are to have Rahe. :wall:

Doesn't a good coach know how to call & draw up high quality plays? Doesn't a good coach have unbelievable strategies on closing out a game?

Rahe is so damn predictable is maddening...
To me Coach Rahe's positives far outweigh his negatives. Does that mean I think he is the next John Wooden? NO clearly he has some weakness in his game.
Do I think WSU is far better off with him then without him? YES. :twocents:

:thumb: I have to agree with this sentiment. No matter...Rahe absolutely drives me nuts. His system can tend to be a bit too mechanical at times. The worst thing about the Rahe System is that he doesn't make changes based off of personnel. However, his record speaks for itself. He has accomplished quite a bit as the coach for Weber State. His system does work and, most importantly, it works against the right teams.

Just not the really important teams in our state and region and for some reason it doesn't really work until after Christmas. I am not sure that the system can overcome the three fatal flaws on the roster this year.
 
webergrad02 said:
talhadfoursteals said:
ajwildcat said:
WeberSki said:
You say this on the heels of posting how lucky we are to have Rahe. :wall:

Doesn't a good coach know how to call & draw up high quality plays? Doesn't a good coach have unbelievable strategies on closing out a game?

Rahe is so damn predictable is maddening...
To me Coach Rahe's positives far outweigh his negatives. Does that mean I think he is the next John Wooden? NO clearly he has some weakness in his game.
Do I think WSU is far better off with him then without him? YES. :twocents:

:thumb: I have to agree with this sentiment. No matter...Rahe absolutely drives me nuts. His system can tend to be a bit too mechanical at times. The worst thing about the Rahe System is that he doesn't make changes based off of personnel. However, his record speaks for itself. He has accomplished quite a bit as the coach for Weber State. His system does work and, most importantly, it works against the right teams.

Just not the really important teams in our state and region and for some reason it doesn't really work until after Christmas. I am not sure that the system can overcome the three fatal flaws on the roster this year.

Is he dominant? NO...but for "Just Enough Weber," it is good enough to be successful most of the time.
 
talhadfoursteals said:
ajwildcat said:
WeberSki said:
You say this on the heels of posting how lucky we are to have Rahe. :wall:

Doesn't a good coach know how to call & draw up high quality plays? Doesn't a good coach have unbelievable strategies on closing out a game?

Rahe is so damn predictable is maddening...
To me Coach Rahe's positives far outweigh his negatives. Does that mean I think he is the next John Wooden? NO clearly he has some weakness in his game.
Do I think WSU is far better off with him then without him? YES. :twocents:

:thumb: I have to agree with this sentiment. No matter...Rahe absolutely drives me nuts. His system can tend to be a bit too mechanical at times. The worst thing about the Rahe System is that he doesn't make changes based off of personnel. However, his record speaks for itself. He has accomplished quite a bit as the coach for Weber State. His system does work and, most importantly, it works against the right teams.
Why do you guys think that WSU is far better off with Rahe than without him? To me that's saying that there's no coach out there that could do better at Weber than Rahe. While I appreciate what Rahe has done, to me it's pretty obvious that he's reached his ceiling. Does that mean that Weber has reached it's ceiling too? Maybe, maybe not.
 
SWeberCat says it perfectly "Rahe is a coach who has reached his ceiling" and that ceiling seems to be high enough for Weber and most of its fans. He is not going to change what he has done for 11 years! And the results will be pretty good in the best years and pretty awful in the worst years. Winning 3 of 10 BSC titles is not anywhere near where Weber should be. So lets all just settle down and learn to put up with Rahe's deficiencies and suffer thru his 8 year contract. What we have seen is what we will be getting! He is here on a LT contract, we ain't gonna buy him out and no one else would pay him anywhere near what we pay him, so we just have to live with it. I know, it sucks!
 
SWeberCat02 said:
talhadfoursteals said:
ajwildcat said:
WeberSki said:
You say this on the heels of posting how lucky we are to have Rahe. :wall:

Doesn't a good coach know how to call & draw up high quality plays? Doesn't a good coach have unbelievable strategies on closing out a game?

Rahe is so damn predictable is maddening...
To me Coach Rahe's positives far outweigh his negatives. Does that mean I think he is the next John Wooden? NO clearly he has some weakness in his game.
Do I think WSU is far better off with him then without him? YES. :twocents:

:thumb: I have to agree with this sentiment. No matter...Rahe absolutely drives me nuts. His system can tend to be a bit too mechanical at times. The worst thing about the Rahe System is that he doesn't make changes based off of personnel. However, his record speaks for itself. He has accomplished quite a bit as the coach for Weber State. His system does work and, most importantly, it works against the right teams.
Why do you guys think that WSU is far better off with Rahe than without him? To me that's saying that there's no coach out there that could do better at Weber than Rahe. While I appreciate what Rahe has done, to me it's pretty obvious that he's reached his ceiling. Does that mean that Weber has reached it's ceiling too? Maybe, maybe not.

My issue is that we aren't really trying to grow to our potential at the university and athletics, why worry about a coach who can win more OOC games? Our AD doesn't really care to do more and has proven that by doing less each year that it seems that it is safer to keep Rahe than to allow the powers that be a chance to really screw things up and hire someone absolutely horrid.

It is safer to maintain the status quo than to go into the unknown with those who are guiding the ship. We know that Rahe will continue to win a specific times and that is the best we can do now. Until we start trying to grow the brand, department and in extension, the program, then keep it where it is at.
 
Maybe Bovee could ask byu if he could say the opening prayer they do down there before tip. It's going to take a prayer to even keep it close.

Only 13 point dogs tonight. I think it will be 20-30 point loss to a non NCAA tourney byu team, I'm sure coach will have the guys ready to take a swipe at them, scratching & clawing all the way out of Happy Valley. gameplan or strategy be damned. Just follow the Flashcards.
 
talhadfoursteals said:
SWeberCat02 said:
talhadfoursteals said:
ajwildcat said:
WeberSki said:
You say this on the heels of posting how lucky we are to have Rahe. :wall:

Doesn't a good coach know how to call & draw up high quality plays? Doesn't a good coach have unbelievable strategies on closing out a game?

Rahe is so damn predictable is maddening...
To me Coach Rahe's positives far outweigh his negatives. Does that mean I think he is the next John Wooden? NO clearly he has some weakness in his game.
Do I think WSU is far better off with him then without him? YES. :twocents:

:thumb: I have to agree with this sentiment. No matter...Rahe absolutely drives me nuts. His system can tend to be a bit too mechanical at times. The worst thing about the Rahe System is that he doesn't make changes based off of personnel. However, his record speaks for itself. He has accomplished quite a bit as the coach for Weber State. His system does work and, most importantly, it works against the right teams.
Why do you guys think that WSU is far better off with Rahe than without him? To me that's saying that there's no coach out there that could do better at Weber than Rahe. While I appreciate what Rahe has done, to me it's pretty obvious that he's reached his ceiling. Does that mean that Weber has reached it's ceiling too? Maybe, maybe not.

My issue is that we aren't really trying to grow to our potential at the university and athletics, why worry about a coach who can win more OOC games? Our AD doesn't really care to do more and has proven that by doing less each year that it seems that it is safer to keep Rahe than to allow the powers that be a chance to really screw things up and hire someone absolutely horrid.

It is safer to maintain the status quo than to go into the unknown with those who are guiding the ship. We know that Rahe will continue to win a specific times and that is the best we can do now. Until we start trying to grow the brand, department and in extension, the program, then keep it where it is at.
Hey don't leave out our outstanding Marketing Department. Talk about stealing a paycheck... :wall:
 

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