OldGreen67
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So I was wondering if anyone had the scoop on Jeff Schuman leaving? I haven't heard much on this...wonder if their is any connection?
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Sperbeck, UNEXPECTED DEPARTURE
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OldGreen67 said:
My understanding is that the "Director of Football Operations" is supposed to be keeping all the off the field stuff in line. Obviously he didn't and now he is no longer the DFO. Same thing with the former recruiting coordinator, coach Ingram. If there were things going on with recruiting, he's the coordinator and responsible for those actions. This whole thing may turn out to be a really good thing considering all the whining we did about changes during and after last season....
Oldhornet23
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Do any of you see Kelley being in charge of recruiting a good thing? Does the recruiting coordinator get the most recruits or run the Other stuff?
I don't think Sperbeck was let go because of money. UCFE and CP coaches make close to what Sperbeck made and I think we would keep pace with fellow state schools in pay for a FCS HC. Plus we have higher attendance and should be able to pay more.
You get what you pay for, if the school paid less you get a Mooshiagian. :thumbdown:
You get what you pay for, if the school paid less you get a Mooshiagian. :thumbdown:
OldSchoolHornet
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Sperbeck is the one who threw the program under the bus when he couldn't figure out how to lead the team to more than six wins in seven seasons without yielding to the temptation of cheating. If your wife cheats on you is she less of a whore because your neighbor's wife cheated more? Are you going to blame a friend for the problem because they should have told you sooner?
I don't see any of you demanding that any of the current assistants are held accountable...you're too busy blaming past assistants for the situation without really knowing who turned his sorry ass in. And you keep continuing to ignore the fact that Sperbeck used enough poor judgment to get fired.
We'll see how burt-hurt you are when you watch these players have to pay the price for his mistakes next season.
I don't see any of you demanding that any of the current assistants are held accountable...you're too busy blaming past assistants for the situation without really knowing who turned his sorry ass in. And you keep continuing to ignore the fact that Sperbeck used enough poor judgment to get fired.
We'll see how burt-hurt you are when you watch these players have to pay the price for his mistakes next season.
just a sac state fan
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You should never call your cheating wife a whore. However, the NCAA is a whore on how they monitor the football and basketball programs. They have impossible rules to follow and yet expect programs to follow them as a result some programs lose money, while others flourish with cheating to gets wins and money.
HornetHope
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movielover said:
You mean other than showing for practice on Tuesdays and Thursdays and gameday?
You mean recruiting a 5'5" wide receiver, slower than molasses who happens to have the coaches same last name?
Other than the lack of discipline, sloppy coaching, incessant whining,I can't think of anything else.
Green Laser
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HornetHope said:
The 11-33 record was a problem!
OldGreen67
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OldSchoolHornet said:
The fact that the school made the necessary moves to address the infractions will help to lesson the blows...they will likely have to do mandatory compliance training and loose a scholly or 2, of the allowable 63...but this won't really affect Sac since they generally only use 60 a year.
On a personal note I met coach O when he was recruiting my son and he seemed like a good guy. We have actually sent a few to ARC as well, but reality is the FCS is a stepping stone for assistant coaches not a long term home. If after 5 years a coach hasn't elevated their game to be hired away to a larger program or coordinator spot then maybe they became complacent...who knows, but after he was let go I didn't see alot of FCS/BCS teams offering a job to him or others that were dismissed, sounds like he is better off a HC now at the JC level...I wish him all the luck as well as the others that have gone there.
All the coaches and admins involved, past and present threw the program under the bus, but like always the HC takes the brunt of the blame...fine...your not hearing me complain about his resignation. Program as a whole is better off than what it was and will be in the future, He did lots of good things you just can't seem to get that, because of your disdain from your buds being fired..OSH I totally understand that your butt hurt for your buddies being let go in the past...yes we all get it. Need to learn to let it go and either support the program and move on to support another.
P.S. Sorry about your wife analogy, hope it wasn't from any past experiences...that would suck :thumbdown:
OldSchoolHornet
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So you think my disdain is for Sperbeck is solely about firings? How about his hirings? He hired Adams to be his OC without any evidence on his resume to suggest he was capable only to have him bail without notice 48 hours before the start of spring practice. Nice evaluation of talent and character, Marshall.
His next big move was to hire Parker as the DC. Really? Anyone think that was a stellar hire?
The bottom line is Sperbeck was inept and was he was allowed to retain his job by blaming the staff he created because Wanless didn't want to admit he picked the wrong guy...again.
BTW..SDH knows whose wife I was talking about.
His next big move was to hire Parker as the DC. Really? Anyone think that was a stellar hire?
The bottom line is Sperbeck was inept and was he was allowed to retain his job by blaming the staff he created because Wanless didn't want to admit he picked the wrong guy...again.
BTW..SDH knows whose wife I was talking about.
Oldhornet23
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What does that have to do with Adams character. He really got a better job, and then went to Colorado with the staff he joined at San Jose. That's the game. If Adams doesn't leave he is sitting here making 50k if that instead of his 200k now. Now Parker ended up being the wrong decision. It happens. But lets not sit here like Baiz and Osterhout were the answer.
OldSchoolHornet said:
So in your mind, someone that is good enough to be hired away to a MWC and then the PAC 12 is a bad hire? And he was not hired as the OC but rather the tight ends coach. He then moved to O line coach when Remington could not keep up with the move from JC to D1 schemes that were thrown at him from opposing teams. Adams helped Sperbeck with the offense his first year and then Sperbeck offered the OC position for the next year. And moving to a better position (the San Jose job) is not something you put off until the end of the season. When the opportunity comes up to improve your career, you make the move. FCS coaches know that good assistants leave on short notice. So yes, I would say that Sperbeck did a very good evaluation of talent and character with Adams, as did MacIntyre at San Jose/Colorado.
superhornet
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San Jose is a "better" position than Sac State?
SJSU is FBSINO. IMO, Sac is an IMMENSELY better place to be....
SJSU is FBSINO. IMO, Sac is an IMMENSELY better place to be....
Super Hornet said:
Better as in moving to an FBS program. Granted, San Jose is FBS a step above Idaho, but it's a step in the right direction if your goal is to eventually be a coach in one of the big 5 conference FBS schools. And that's exactly what happened, so yes, it was better for coach Adams.
OldSchoolHornet
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Sperbeck is the only coach in America who has asked Coach Adams to coordinate.
He left on literally hours of notice and no one in the program had any idea he had even applied elsewhere until his bags were pack. If he wanted to move on fine, but he certainly could have done it much differently.
I never suggested that Osterhout or Baiz should have been the DC. My criticism of Sperbeck is that he fired two solid assistants and recruiters for the sake of hiring an inept DC. Poor management.
Has anyone tried to count up all of the assistants he hired and then fired during his tenure? Here's a clue...it a lot more than the two who keep coming up.
I'm not a bit confused about the facts regarding Sperbeck
He could not win more than 6 games in a season.
He could not contend for a Big Sky championship...much less win one.
He could not beat Davis even when he had better talent.
He could not assemble and/or retain a quality staff.
He will be remembered for the fact that he lost his job over NCAA violations...I don't know of any other coach in the history of Sac State athletics who has that tag.
Not one personal attack...just the facts.
He left on literally hours of notice and no one in the program had any idea he had even applied elsewhere until his bags were pack. If he wanted to move on fine, but he certainly could have done it much differently.
I never suggested that Osterhout or Baiz should have been the DC. My criticism of Sperbeck is that he fired two solid assistants and recruiters for the sake of hiring an inept DC. Poor management.
Has anyone tried to count up all of the assistants he hired and then fired during his tenure? Here's a clue...it a lot more than the two who keep coming up.
I'm not a bit confused about the facts regarding Sperbeck
He could not win more than 6 games in a season.
He could not contend for a Big Sky championship...much less win one.
He could not beat Davis even when he had better talent.
He could not assemble and/or retain a quality staff.
He will be remembered for the fact that he lost his job over NCAA violations...I don't know of any other coach in the history of Sac State athletics who has that tag.
Not one personal attack...just the facts.
OldSchoolHornet said:
So what's your point with Sperbeck being the only coach to offer coach Adams a coordinator position. It was only his second coaching job and he was the run game coordinator for Western Washington. As far as leaving on a few hours notice, it was a bit more than that, but it was a decision that had to be made quickly by both Adams and MacIntyre. And if you think a lower division coach is going to be pissy about one of his assistants getting the chance to move up, you are sorely mistaken. Sure they'll be cranky for a while, but it's the nature of the business. You don't tell your boss you're going to go interview for a job before you go, or before you have an offer. You tell them after the interview and after the offer.
superhornet
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GoldenEagleHornet said:
FYI, Paul Wulff is no longer with the 49ers. He is OC and OL Coach at South Florida. Wulff signed with USF in JAN 2013....
