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oldtimeewualum said:
Swoop55: Now that Wortham (Rodney's friend and former teammate) is no longer at EWU, and the athletic department staff has been told that nobody other than Hughes is supposed to contact Rodney, I would throw out the challenge to you to state exactly who it is that speaks with him. My sources (that is plural), one of whom is very close with Rodney, and a couple who intimately know the situation, say that Rodney has cut off communication and refuses to give his cell phone to anybody at EWU. Once again, I am right about this.

By stating that Glen Dean made a horrible decision, you are showing your ignorance. He left a Big Sky school with no money (the worst budget in the Big Sky) or support from the administration to transfer to a nationally-renowned university in the Pac-12; to go to a university with a medical school and university hospital (he is a biology/pre-med major who wants to go to medical school); to go to a basketball program that has an academic advisor just for basketball instead of a school with one advisor for 300+ student-athletes, a strength/conditioning coach strictly for basketball, that charters to every road game, that has training table for the players to eat properly (Eastern doesnt even pay for 3 meals per day according to Earlywine and several players I spoke with), that plays every game on TV, that has a coach that has played in the NBA, won in the NCAA tourney, been an assistant and head coach in the NBA. I guess other than those reasons...

Please dont reply with "he's not going to play/he'll sit on the bench." It will only amplify the appearance of your ignorance because you will be stating or implying that you know more about basketball than Utah's new coach, Larry Krytkowiak. You dont...by a wide margin.

One last thing, your statement that you wouldn't trust Earlywine as far as you could throw him: is that based on a personal experience of him lying to you or just an unfounded dig at the guy? The reason I ask is, as I stated in an earlier post, the guy is one of the most honest people I have ever met, and I have yet to meet anybody else who can give me an instance of him being untruthful.

I'm sorry, but what a big gigantic pile of a turd of a post this is. :lol:

If Rodney has an issue, so be it. And if Hughes is the only one who has permission to speak with him, then there's your answer. :dunce:

I'm sure multiple people on this forum have sources too. Those sources might say yea or nay about the honesty of Earlywine, but people choose not to post about it out of respect for Earlywine and out of respect for EWU. He did his best in a challenging situation and fell short.

Your pining on about Eastern's financial shortcomings show a complete ignorance of Eagle Athletics. My best guess is either an egriz troll or an Earlywine relative.

Signed,

actualoldtimeewualumandcurrentsupporter
 
You guys are missing my original point. It was not (and is not) about Earlywine. Rather, the reason I have finally decided to post here, is the lack of commitment to our basketball program by the administration and the lack of effort toward fundraising by our AD. The fact that we are dead last in the Big Sky in dollars spent for basketball really bothers me. And the fact that the last two posts refer to "respectability" also bothers me. We just finished 5th and had our whole team returning...that's "respectable." Maybe that is all we should realistically expect. Expectations matching commitment, right? Well, pardon me, but I am hoping for a little more, but I understand that the only way it is going to happen is if we (meaning the university) help Hayford more than Burns and Earlywine.

What bothers me most is that I think very few Eagle fans (maybe it's just the ones I talk to?) understand how poorly funded our basketball program is - and how it has actually become worse in the last 3 years. We are headed the wrong direction. If bringing this to light constitutes "bashing" for some folks, so be it. But one of the ways a problem can get corrected is if people are aware that it is a problem. I think most Eagle fans have no idea.
 
oldtimeewualum said:
You guys are missing my original point. It was not (and is not) about Earlywine. Rather, the reason I have finally decided to post here, is the lack of commitment to our basketball program by the administration and the lack of effort toward fundraising by our AD. The fact that we are dead last in the Big Sky in dollars spent for basketball really bothers me. And the fact that the last two posts refer to "respectability" also bothers me. We just finished 5th and had our whole team returning...that's "respectable." Maybe that is all we should realistically expect. Expectations matching commitment, right? Well, pardon me, but I am hoping for a little more, but I understand that the only way it is going to happen is if we (meaning the university) help Hayford more than Burns and Earlywine.

What bothers me most is that I think very few Eagle fans (maybe it's just the ones I talk to?) understand how poorly funded our basketball program is - and how it has actually become worse in the last 3 years. We are headed the wrong direction. If bringing this to light constitutes "bashing" for some folks, so be it. But one of the ways a problem can get corrected is if people are aware that it is a problem. I think most Eagle fans have no idea.

Ummm you do realize we are a low mid major in a hyper competitive local college sports market right? That limitations like not having a basketball specific academic advisor not only affects the players and coaches, but the AD as well and the time he can devote to fundraising? How much time did he have to devote to cleaning up the regulatory shit storm left by previous administrations? Can you cite specific examples of how the AD given his limitations is not fundraising as much as he can? Have you compared his efforts to AD's at other under funded programs like ISU? How much money has Stuckey already given to the program?

And what responsibilities does the coaching staff have in this regard? I see the women's staff hosting summer youth camps. Football does the same and they also run a fundraiser golf tournament. :coffee:
 
Since I've started down the road, let me continue and perhaps enlighten a few of you - specifically kalm and spoeagle. First, regarding kalm's statement regarding my "ignorance" of EWU's financial situation. I am strictly speaking of funding for our basketball program (because that is what I care most about and has the greatest potential to increase the profile of our university) and not the entire department. And from a bball point of view, I am not ignorant.

Go to the US Department of Education website that lists the amount of money spent by every athletic department in the country on each sport (private schools like GU are not required to report). We are ninth out of nine schools in the Big Sky in terms of dollars spent on our basketball program. The numbers are a matter of public record and they dont lie. The bottom. The basement. Dead last. Additionally, let me point out that our head coach was the lowest paid in the Big Sky; our assistant coaches were the lowest paid in the conference; we are the only school in the conference that doesnt pay for summer school for returning players (NCAA rules require each school to pay for incoming players); we are the only school that doesnt pay for a 5th year for players to graduate; the meal plan for our players doesnt even pay for 2 meals per day even though the NCAA allows a full scholarship athlete to receive 3 (and these last 3 points are common knowledge throughout not only our conference but also the Big West, WCC, WAC, etc and are used to hammer us in recruiting); the summer recruiting budget was cut by 33% during Earlywine's tenure (July is the most important recruiting period of the year in college bball); meal money for the players on road trips was cut by 40% to the point that the team couldnt be adequately fed; nothing has been done to improve Reese, the lockerroom (an embarassment even by D2 standards) or the coaches offices although every other school in the conference has upgraded it's bball facilities; There is more if you would like, but I'll move on.

Please stop referring to us as a "mid" major. We are a low major in every respect. We are in a 1-bid conference; we have to play multiple money games on the road; plus...well, all of the things listed above.
I missed your point on the correlation between only having 1 academic advisor and the AD not raising money. Are you suggesting that Chaves couldnt get out and raise money because he was picking up the slack tutoring adn advising the student-athletes?

There is no question that the athletic department was in disarray when Chaves arrived, but since the football appeal ruling, there have not been any issues that I am aware of that should have taken precedent over fundraising. I will again pose the question: How long is simply being the anti-Hamilton good enough? Also, do you think he inherited a bigger shit storm than Earlywine? No way. Basketball had 8 of it's 13 scholarships available in the middle of the summer - probably unprecedented in Division 1. Baylor might be the only situation in recent times that was worse than ours. Yet Earlywine was only given a 3 year contract. Everybody thought that Westphal was "his guy", but he sure didnt do him any favors with that contract, did he? And then a one-year extension? So, 2 of his 3 full recruiting classes were during the final year of his contract. Again, an absolute killer on the recruiting trail. Sorry, I have veered off path.

Summer camps: Earlywine ran team camp a few days after he got the job. The following summer they didnt have enough teams and had to cancel team camp. For point of reference, that is the same summer that WSU had to cancel their team camp, and they were coming off a great season (Loe, Weaver, Cowgill, etc). Gonzaga had pretty much cornered the market on team camp and the addition of Coach Giacolletti to the staff only added to that monopoly due to his long-standing relationship with some HS coaches in the state. The following summer Earlywine brought back team camp and had 20-24 teams and also hustled up two weeks of camp at the Spokane Indian Reservation in Wellpinnit. This required him and his staff to drive an hour each direction every day for the first two weeks of August after spending July on the road recruiting. By all accounts (see Goodmand and Parrish's articles on cbssports.com or Katz on espn.com) July is extremely grueling for college coaches. Earlywine continued these camps at the reservation, but had to again cancel the team camp last year when the housing and dining offices on campus drastically increased what they charged. Earlywine would have had to increase the cost of camp (during the worst economic period in our country since the Great Depression) to the point that it simply was not feasilble. Yeah, the women's team had camp and Hayford ran a camp (and had to cancel another!), but go ask if they made more money than Earlywine did by going off campus. I have seen it insinuated on here that Earlywine didnt run camps (not true) because he was lazy. If that were true he damn sure would not have driven to Wellpinit and back every day for two weeks - for money to give to his assistants. He didnt take any money from camp.

Finally, upon being named head coach, Earlywine attempted to begin a basketball golf fundraiser. He was immediately cut off at the knees and told that he could not do it out of the fear of cannibalizing the football golf outing in the Spring, the Raver golf outing in the summer, and the intramural department golf outing in the Fall. What else? A car wash...a bake sale? I thought we were supposed to be Division 1 for chrissakes!
 
You bring up a lot of good points. My question, though, is what are the solutions to some of these problems? There are some that can't be fixed, such as the fact that we play in a one-bid conference, but it seems that many of the problems are due to inadequate funding in the bball program. I actually think bringing in Hayford is going to help some in that regard since he has many connections in the area. I also agree that Reese Court needs some love, but it is FAR from being the worst in the conference. I know that's not something we need to aspire to, not being the worst, but I have seen far worse basketball facilities. I agree that things need to be done there, though, as it is also the home to the women's bball and volleyball teams. I have seen how intimidating a packed Reese Court can be to an opposing team.

Unfortunately, we lost all the momentum we had with Coach G and our NCAA tournament appearance when he left and Burns came in. I actually feel like he did far more to damage the program than Earlywine did. I have nothing against Earlywine, he inherited a really bad situation. I just think people's perception of him really went downhill after the DWI. That, coupled with the losses I think was his undoing. Yeah, I think he would have done better with another year, but like I said previously the time has passed to debate it.

Coach Hayford is in charge now, so I think instead of looking at the past we should be looking to the future. No doubt that there are things that need to be addressed, and I am sure that the staff is busy doing just that.

I also agree with the previous poster that is was unlikely Rodney was going to give a large donation to the Bball program anyway, so I think that whole tangent is sort of a moot point. I could be wrong. Hope I'm wrong. But even if that is the case, things can always been salvaged with the right personalities in place. All I have to go off of are the interviews I've heard him in; and in those he certainly doesn't seem anti-EWU. Quite the contrary.
 
oldtimeewualum said:
Since I've started down the road, let me continue and perhaps enlighten a few of you - specifically kalm and spoeagle. First, regarding kalm's statement regarding my "ignorance" of EWU's financial situation. I am strictly speaking of funding for our basketball program (because that is what I care most about and has the greatest potential to increase the profile of our university) and not the entire department. And from a bball point of view, I am not ignorant.

Go to the US Department of Education website that lists the amount of money spent by every athletic department in the country on each sport (private schools like GU are not required to report). We are ninth out of nine schools in the Big Sky in terms of dollars spent on our basketball program. The numbers are a matter of public record and they dont lie. The bottom. The basement. Dead last. Additionally, let me point out that our head coach was the lowest paid in the Big Sky; our assistant coaches were the lowest paid in the conference; we are the only school in the conference that doesnt pay for summer school for returning players (NCAA rules require each school to pay for incoming players); we are the only school that doesnt pay for a 5th year for players to graduate; the meal plan for our players doesnt even pay for 2 meals per day even though the NCAA allows a full scholarship athlete to receive 3 (and these last 3 points are common knowledge throughout not only our conference but also the Big West, WCC, WAC, etc and are used to hammer us in recruiting); the summer recruiting budget was cut by 33% during Earlywine's tenure (July is the most important recruiting period of the year in college bball); meal money for the players on road trips was cut by 40% to the point that the team couldnt be adequately fed; nothing has been done to improve Reese, the lockerroom (an embarassment even by D2 standards) or the coaches offices although every other school in the conference has upgraded it's bball facilities; There is more if you would like, but I'll move on.

Please stop referring to us as a "mid" major. We are a low major in every respect. We are in a 1-bid conference; we have to play multiple money games on the road; plus...well, all of the things listed above.
I missed your point on the correlation between only having 1 academic advisor and the AD not raising money. Are you suggesting that Chaves couldnt get out and raise money because he was picking up the slack tutoring adn advising the student-athletes?

There is no question that the athletic department was in disarray when Chaves arrived, but since the football appeal ruling, there have not been any issues that I am aware of that should have taken precedent over fundraising. I will again pose the question: How long is simply being the anti-Hamilton good enough? Also, do you think he inherited a bigger shit storm than Earlywine? No way. Basketball had 8 of it's 13 scholarships available in the middle of the summer - probably unprecedented in Division 1. Baylor might be the only situation in recent times that was worse than ours. Yet Earlywine was only given a 3 year contract. Everybody thought that Westphal was "his guy", but he sure didnt do him any favors with that contract, did he? And then a one-year extension? So, 2 of his 3 full recruiting classes were during the final year of his contract. Again, an absolute killer on the recruiting trail. Sorry, I have veered off path.

Summer camps: Earlywine ran team camp a few days after he got the job. The following summer they didnt have enough teams and had to cancel team camp. For point of reference, that is the same summer that WSU had to cancel their team camp, and they were coming off a great season (Loe, Weaver, Cowgill, etc). Gonzaga had pretty much cornered the market on team camp and the addition of Coach Giacolletti to the staff only added to that monopoly due to his long-standing relationship with some HS coaches in the state. The following summer Earlywine brought back team camp and had 20-24 teams and also hustled up two weeks of camp at the Spokane Indian Reservation in Wellpinnit. This required him and his staff to drive an hour each direction every day for the first two weeks of August after spending July on the road recruiting. By all accounts (see Goodmand and Parrish's articles on cbssports.com or Katz on espn.com) July is extremely grueling for college coaches. Earlywine continued these camps at the reservation, but had to again cancel the team camp last year when the housing and dining offices on campus drastically increased what they charged. Earlywine would have had to increase the cost of camp (during the worst economic period in our country since the Great Depression) to the point that it simply was not feasilble. Yeah, the women's team had camp and Hayford ran a camp (and had to cancel another!), but go ask if they made more money than Earlywine did by going off campus. I have seen it insinuated on here that Earlywine didnt run camps (not true) because he was lazy. If that were true he damn sure would not have driven to Wellpinit and back every day for two weeks - for money to give to his assistants. He didnt take any money from camp.

Finally, upon being named head coach, Earlywine attempted to begin a basketball golf fundraiser. He was immediately cut off at the knees and told that he could not do it out of the fear of cannibalizing the football golf outing in the Spring, the Raver golf outing in the summer, and the intramural department golf outing in the Fall. What else? A car wash...a bake sale? I thought we were supposed to be Division 1 for chrissakes!

You do bring up some good points. You just described the financial, facilities, and personnel short comings of every sport at EWU since the moment we went DI. Every coach and student athlete can make similar complaints. The AD is responsible for all of them, while you are admittedly looking at it through a much more narrow lens.

For the programs at Eastern that have enjoyed success, we are the 'little university that could.'. Over -achievement is one of our more endearing qualities. And here's to continued improvement.

Peace. :thumb:
 
EWUmomma,
Haven't seen you on the blog lately. Hoping things are ok with the family. Hope you and family had a great Christmas. Happy New Year to you and yours. When is Cass returning? See Football Season, know it is a little way off, but remember Feb. 2015, Recruits announcement. Go Eagles!!!!! Vic Wallace
 

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