dudeitsaid
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LDopaPDX said:luckyintheorder said:LDopaPDX said:UNI is a very dangerous opponent. Just look at our history against them... it ain't good. I could be mistaken, but I think this is only the second time they've come to Cheney... every other game was in the Unidome (one of the better indoor stadiums).
Every team we play that can smash the ball will have the same gameplan. It's exactly what we saw versus Portland State last week. They'll try to dominate possession and play 3 downs at a time. We've been able to keep our scores reasonable, but our defense has struggled a ton to get off the field without allowing multiple first downs. Given the tempo offense we play, keeping our defense on the field is a double whammy. It keeps us from threatening, and it takes us out of rhythm offensively.
I realize it's unchangeable at this point, but if I had one philosophical change I could make, it would be greater focus on 3-and-outs. I couldn't care if we ever get a turnover, I just want to see three and out on 50% of possessions. But that's not who we are right now, so we may need a couple of turnovers to swing things in our favor. I expect we'll play defense with the soft zones and using just four to pressure, while occasionally bringing two extra through the gaps. Being able to disrupt the flow with just four will be key, but I think that'll be tough as UNI is pretty coherent on the line.
Defensively, I like what UNI does. They aren't nearly as big of a blitzing team as we've seen, but given our difficulty dealing with blitzes this year, maybe that'll change on Saturday. They show a lot of mixed zones with one or two high. I expect they'll be showing two high safeties except when they dial up the blitz to guard against our passing game. If so, I expect to see us utilize the flats on shorter routes... maybe a heavy dose of WR screens.
I think UNI brings about the same brand as Montana, so the game could theoretically be similar. They're not easy to score against, and they do enough on offense to make life difficult. Interestingly, UNI, Montana, and Eastern all shared Western Illinois as an opponent. UNI and Montana blew them out, while we were a defensive disaster and damn near lost.
Eastern is 24th ranked in 3rd down defense while UNI is 92nd in 3rd down conversions offensively Dopa. Nearly every team we faced is significantly better than that. Not sure what stats you're looking at because your assertion just isn't true. I can't see into the mind of the DC and always wonder why the team reverts back occasionally to poor schemes that have proven ineffective aka PSU last week. Coaches are just stubborn and stick to beliefs regardless of outcomes, like most people do. It's just under a microscope on the gridiron. Believe I've written nearly a book over the past 10+ years on poor scheme, lack of situational awareness, awful personnel choices etc. and would say that this is the first season since the Natty, Eastern is playing smart a majority of the time and several players have improved as well. Without pounding on Ena, will say he's embraced some new concepts that have made the defense better and hope he gets out of his own way this coming week. Every defense wants to get off the field 3 and out. ;-)but our defense has struggled a ton to get off the field without allowing multiple first downs.
Don't think the Eagles have struggled with blitzes and are ranked 48th in sacks allowed (some of this is on EB3 not throwing it away and or seeing the field), Eag's played three teams that had WAY above average DB coverage and aggressive front 7's. The OL is middle of the pack with what seems like constant moves of position and several freshman playing lots of minutes. All in all they've done well though and thought they played better the last two games (maybe I'm wearing rose colored glasses) and Shoemaker's default mode was no outlet, 15+ yard routes after creating long 3rd downs when things got tight IMO. Not a recipe for success.
If it makes you feel any better Eastern is nearly twice as good at getting stops in the red zone as UNI. Ranked 46th vs 96th. Not everything is stats or there'd be no reason to play the games.
I’ll take your word on the third down stats, but what I’m mostly referring to isn’t so much third downs but the fact we don’t get off the field in general. We are third from last in the conference in time of possession and total number of defensive plays. I tried to find a stat on first downs conceded, but wasn’t able to. My hunch is that wouldn’t paint a rosy picture either. We saw the gameplan Portland State used, and it wasn’t a whole lot different than Montana State or Weber State. They tried to get first down after first down, knowing it keeps our offense on the sideline and gets them out of rhythm.
If UNI is able to control the ball like that, it makes every offensive possession all that much more critical. Even if we don’t score, we need to possess the ball enough to build some rhythm and keep the D from getting drained.
Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but EWU is ranked 82nd out of 123 schools (gave up 122). https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/694/p2 EWU gave up 2 more first downs than SIU, and playoff teams UC Davis (107), SELU (110), and UIW (118) are all below the Eags. UNI is 13th out of 123 schools in that stat...only giving up 171 first downs.
Also, just for the heck of it, UNI is ranked 8th in 3rd down conversion% defense, while EWU is 24th. Offensively, EWU converts over 50% of 3rd downs. UNI is 92nd out of 123 schools at 33%. If EWU can get them into 3rd and long, seems like that would go well in Eastern's favor.