Walsh Considering Army?(Walsh lands OC Position @ Army)

[PSUVikings2]

The more I think about, I say just promote one of the coordinators for awhile and see how that works out.

"And see how that works out".....that's been the problem with this place, we settle for average and the easy thing to do. I dont want to take a chance....I want to search and get the best coach for PSU!!! Period.

If after the search one of the coordinators is the best for the job....then hire them....I dont however want to just hire one of them and HOPE IT WORKS OUT. Thats not how successful businesses/corporations work. If we want to reach that next level....conduct a national search with Mouse, June, and even Borges being consultants to the search committee. They understand our university and would be support to the athletic department that is without an athletic director.

Allow me to clarify my position. I'd prefer promoting a coordinator to having a hurried haphazard search bring in somebody from the outside. Also, consider that our defense is already 1st rate, and we probably would have been in the playoffs a couple of times in recent years if Walsh had just loosened the reigns on offense. If you follow me and prescribe to the if it ain't broken don't fix it philosophy, then maybe a less conservative coordinator would get us to the next level. Of course, this all assumes that Walsh is the reason for our conservative offense.

THAT IS MY POINT EXACTLY...HIRING A COORDINATOR ON STAFF WOULD BE A "hurried haphazard search". RESEARCH AND FIND THE BEST AVAILABLE COACH. DONT DO THE EASY/LAZY THING, AND JUST HIRE SOMEONE ON STAFF.

I see what you are saying but you never know, maybe one of our guys can get it done

Do we want make yet another search or get a coach quickly, think about it, we make another search it may be a while before we get anyone, it's taken us almost a year to get an AD, I agree with you but ManOfVision has a point, the search could provide problems

 

[cut41]

If PSU hires an AD in the next few weeks we will probably look externally, no AD and we are most likely left with an internal resolution. That's my gut feeling.

 

[martymoose]

i am frightened and excited by this whole thing.

I feel the same exact way. /users/31/07/37/smiles/eusa_th2.gif

 

[GoViks]

If Coach leaves he leaves the new coach with a very talented team! I for one would not like to see the coaching position come internally, especially from Hoover. He has not impressed me that much to take over that important of a roll as head coach. If it is true that Walsh is excepting the job I garauntee that there are plenty very qualified coaches to hire out there especially ones that have the drive, passion, and leadership that we need to take us to the playoffs and possibly a national championship!

 

[vikings4l]

The more I think about, I say just promote one of the coordinators for awhile and see how that works out.

"And see how that works out".....that's been the problem with this place, we settle for average and the easy thing to do. I dont want to take a chance....I want to search and get the best coach for PSU!!! Period.

If after the search one of the coordinators is the best for the job....then hire them....I dont however want to just hire one of them and HOPE IT WORKS OUT. Thats not how successful businesses/corporations work. If we want to reach that next level....conduct a national search with Mouse, June, and even Borges being consultants to the search committee. They understand our university and would be support to the athletic department that is without an athletic director.

Allow me to clarify my position. I'd prefer promoting a coordinator to having a hurried haphazard search bring in somebody from the outside. Also, consider that our defense is already 1st rate, and we probably would have been in the playoffs a couple of times in recent years if Walsh had just loosened the reigns on offense. If you follow me and prescribe to the if it ain't broken don't fix it philosophy, then maybe a less conservative coordinator would get us to the next level. Of course, this all assumes that Walsh is the reason for our conservative offense.

THAT IS MY POINT EXACTLY...HIRING A COORDINATOR ON STAFF WOULD BE A "hurried haphazard search". RESEARCH AND FIND THE BEST AVAILABLE COACH. DONT DO THE EASY/LAZY THING, AND JUST HIRE SOMEONE ON STAFF.

I see what you are saying but you never know, maybe one of our guys can get it done

Do we want make yet another search or get a coach quickly, think about it, we make another search it may be a while before we get anyone, it's taken us almost a year to get an AD, I agree with you but ManOfVision has a point, the search could provide problems

Maybe, Maybe one of our guys can get it done. DONT TAKE THE CHANCE. Have another search include the coordinators. Whenever you hire someone quickly you usually get someone who is not qualified. Looking at the bios of the current staff....NO ONE is ready to take over as a head coach. Conduct a search....and get the right guy!!!!

 

[PSUVikings2]

http://www.kgw.com/sports/stories/kgw_021307_sports_walsh_psu.7f10ade3.html

 

[martymoose]

Guess that answers that...

Hopefully the announcement later in the week will include an AD update.

 

[vikings4l]

Go seek out Mouse Davis and June Jones opinion of what we should do, since we dont have an AD right now. They know how to make this place successful

 

[DJViking]

I think the idea of soliciting Mouse Davis and June Jones is a really, really bad idea. All it shows is that the staff at PSU cannot do their own jobs, and that in order to get anything done, people who have moved on from the organization need to come back and help.

If PSU is going to be a world-class athletic program, as well as a world-class university, it needs to figure out how to hire the right people on its own.

If Mouse Davis and June Jones offer some opinions, or if the current staff have non-work relationships with these two, and their thoughts and opinions could be asked about, then we should utilize them. Approaching them will only make PSU look bad.

 

[PSUVikings2]

Walsh should have a press conference or something

 

[ManOfVision]

I think the idea of soliciting Mouse Davis and June Jones is a really, really bad idea. All it shows is that the staff at PSU cannot do their own jobs, and that in order to get anything done, people who have moved on from the organization need to come back and help.

If PSU is going to be a world-class athletic program, as well as a world-class university, it needs to figure out how to hire the right people on its own.

If Mouse Davis and June Jones offer some opinions, or if the current staff have non-work relationships with these two, and their thoughts and opinions could be asked about, then we should utilize them. Approaching them will only make PSU look bad.

I think soliciting their opinions is wise as long as we don't just turn the search over to them. Including prominent alums and others connected to your program is a common practice among big time programs. If anything, we need more of that.

 

[WiViking]

I really don't want to see a coach who is moving directly up from D-II or D-III. Because the recruiting plays a much smaller role in lower division athletics, I don't see a small-time coach fitting in. I'd prefer to see a coordinator of some type from a D-I program who will be able to recruit well in the west and northwest and be able to fill the stadium. I'd also like to see Lincoln's coach brought in in some capacity due to his extreme success and background.

 

[GoViks]

Lincoln's coach may be good but what does he know about recruiting and the politics that go on in the 1AA world. If I were and AD i would never hire a HS coach to become a NCAA Division 1 football coach! However if considering hiring somebody to work as an OC then I would consider hiring a very successful HS coach. A HS coach with no experience in the NCAA division 1 world would be overwhelmed and would be disasterous for a program that is looking to hire somebody who is going to take the program to the next leve.

If and when the selection committee starts the process of looking for a new HC I think it would be wise if they could find somebody with great success as a OC from possibly another 1AA and even better a 1A (which most likely would never happen cause we could not pay them enough) program. Its going to a harder process to replace Walsh then most think. There are alot of dynamics involved when it come to selecting the best person for the HC position and Salary plays a major roll in it as well. If we could offer a salary of +300k/yr then i don't think it will be so hard but PSU does not have that kind bugetary sys. to support a salary such as that.

There is so much up in the air right now with athlectics, its exciting and frustrating at the same time. I'm really excited to hear who PSU will hire for the AD position but then i'm frustrated with the head football coach situation. Is he stayin or is he going?? Sadly enough I'm actually hoping that he leaves that way we can get the process of hiring a new head coach going and get somebody who will sign a contract for the next 3-4yrs who we can depend taking a very talented team to the post season!! My feeling if Walsh decides not to take the position then I think it is very likely he will leave after next season when his contract is up and after we have another winning season!! If we go to the playoffs and go far then Walsh will become a very sought after person. Then we are in the situation of trying to keep him as coach by trying to offer him something better then what he is offered which PSU can not so then we are looking for a new HC anyways.

This is IMO!

 

[WiViking]

I don't see the high school coach as head coach, but I would like to see him involved in the offense as one of the minor coordinators.

 

[PSUVikings2]

I don't see the high school coach as head coach, but I would like to see him involved in the offense as one of the minor coordinators.

if that, he may be a good coach but CFB and HS football are two whole different worlds

 

[PSUVikings2]

http://portlandstatevikings.blogs.oregonlive.com/default.asp?item=493987

tomorrow we find out the final say

 

[Bozz Hoggz]

My sources have told me he was gone more than a week ago. I assume Walsh has only waited this long to go public so the admin would benefit from not having to panic with the media and fans and worry about the vacancy. And of course to write a good farewell to beloved PSU.

Also I for one would not recommend having a high school coach, with very little experience at that level alone, be our next HC; referring to Lincoln's Chad Carlson. That is a jump many never make and in this case rightfully so. Lincoln might have had a couple good seasons recently but by no measure does that grant or better earn the control of PSU's future destiny. Not to get personal but I do follow Oregon HS football and I thought Lincoln was hyped a lot. IMO we have a better previous Oregon HS coach in RB's coach Frank Geske.

 

[martymoose]

I agree that we really need to look higher than a coach coming from a local high school. No disrespect intended.

 

[vikings4l]

Just heard this rumor on some of Hawaii message boards and newspapers. Mouse is considering stepping down at Hawaii. I've heard that he wants to continue coaching and come back to Portland. He still owns a home here. Maybe he has already been contacted about the head coach position or AD position.

 

[PSUVikings2]

Just heard this or on some of Hawaii message boards and newspapers. Mouse is considering stepping down at Hawaii. I've heard that he wants to continue coaching and come back to Portland. He still owns a home here. Maybe he has already been contacted about the head coach position or AD position.

As of know, Mouse is still in Hawaii, anything you here is just ors. He has mumbled about retirement a few times but who knows.

MD is getting old, I believe cutler41 said 75, we can't build a program around someone who won't last longer then 5 years, no disrespect to mouse just saying his age is cathing up with him