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Week 11 - Sac State at #2 Montana State

The only way Andy is gone after this season is if Troy Taylor is fired by Stanford and there is mutual interest in a reunion. That scenario probably keeps Richardson at OL, and Fresques as QB coach. There is a non-zero chance this happens, and there is precedent (Hauck to UNLV, back to UM). Maybe 5% chance this happens…

Like I’ve said before, Thompson will almost assuredly be back as HC and will have to make serious changes to the staff and roster if he wants to keep his job. The 2025 recruiting class is already shaping up to be our “highest rated” ever - but we should probably be prepared to lose a couple of those guys with any serious overhaul to the team staff…
 
SDHornet said:
Neither of those teams had/have a redshirt freshman QB and are irrelevant to our current situation. Now answer my question:

Please explain how firing the coaching staff puts Hornet football in a better position for next season. Explain it to me like I haven't just become a Hornet fan in the last 5 years.
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The fact that we only had a redshirt freshman QB again is the fault of coaching staff.

Would you consider that a smart well planned decision? 1) KB who is fragile and couldn’t make a full season without injuries 2) Not recruiting via Portal another strong backup QB?

That’s bad planning. That was risky and they got exposed for not being more prepared with better depth.

I see value in some of your points. But I also see bad strategic decision making as a coaching staff and our program at a point that might have trouble recruiting talent going forward when losing games becomes status quo.

The defense has been disappointing and it’s supposed to be the AT / HC strength as coach.

I wish I knew the best decision to get the FB program back to winning again. Whether, it’s just a shuffle or replacement of a few coaches?

But anybody that doesn’t take this seriously should ask themselves if this level of FB will be able to compete in PAC12 FBS or will we give up 70 points and just make excuses…
 
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HornetFootballFan said:
The fact that we only had a redshirt freshman QB again is the fault of coaching staff.

Would you consider that a smart well planned decision? 1) KB who is fragile and couldn’t make a full season without injuries 2) Not recruiting via Portal another strong backup QB?

That’s bad planning. That was risky and they got exposed for not being more prepared with better depth.

I see value in some of your points. But I also see bad strategic decision making as a coaching staff and our program at a point that might have trouble recruiting talent going forward when losing games becomes status quo.

The defense has been disappointing and it’s supposed to be the AT / HC strength as coach.

I wish I knew the best decision to get the FB program back to winning again. Whether, it’s just a shuffle or replacement of a few coaches?

But anybody that doesn’t take this seriously should ask themselves if this level of FB will be able to compete in PAC12 FBS or will we give up 70 points and just make excuses…
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I'm not sure how it's on the coaches for not having a plan to replace their quitter starting senior quarterback on the fly other than going with the redshirt freshman who was being groomed to take over anyways.

In what world would a talented and desirable transfer quarterback want to come to a program where a true freshman got significant reps the season prior and is the obvious heir apparent? Even if the coaches pre-emptively bounced KB in the offseason, you think players would want to come to a program whose coaches bounced their senior quarterback that just led them to a post season win? Do you people understand that only a non-serious program would pull such a ridiculous move? You think KB and his crew wouldn't blast such a move all over SM and knee cap any chances of landing serious recruits/transfers?

You people need to get with the times and start thinking things through before posting utter nonsense. Nothing anyone has posted about this situation has considered the ramifications free agency has on the situation. It's all just emotional knee jerk reactions to placate a desire to win games that are already over.

I said this before and I'll say this again, yes it sucks that KB quit on this team and put the program in this situation, but all this really did was speed up the Conklin timeline by a season. Did people seriously think because Conklin would have gotten another season of spot starts and limited reps behind KB that it would be enough for him to tear through the '25 schedule? If anything this season is a boon for Conklin considering he gets to throw to two very experienced and talented receivers in Gipson and Grover and kickstart his development. I just hope Conklin sticks around because no doubt he'll get some offers this offseason, but he certainly won't be here if Coach Fresques is axed.

You people need to stop dooming. Yes the losing sucks, yes the coaches are accountable for the sub par results this season, yes there should be some changes to the staff, no Andy and Bobby shouldn't get fired. If these coaches can keep Conklin and surround him with talent then this Hornet offense will be very exciting to watch for years to come.
 
How exciting is a pocket only QB? Run into a dynamic defense that shuts down the pass then the O is one dimensional. Not sure why Conklin was recruited when it has been proven that a dual threat QB is what the modern college game requires.
 
Hornet99 said:
The whole college football environment today is hurting these kids heads. Even if we had Dorian Hale, he’d be a strong rotation running QB this seatthat would’ve gotten significantly played time.
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Man, If DH had stuck around.... He would've gotten that QB run he's been chasing for years.
 
Kadeezy said:
Gonna be a rough WR room next year...

Starters:
Scudero (So.)
Gandy (Sr.)
Smith Jr (So.)

Wildcards?
Cope
Nicholsen
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Are you assuming that we're going to continue with a one-back set? You can write me off as too old school, but I'd love to go back to a two-back set. That would get the running game going easier, both with lead and with the option game. It would also make play-action passes much more believable....
 
Inagine if we didn’t lose Lynch and Broussard to UW and KB played, both offense and defense would’ve been a little better, more wins, in the playoffs, not beating Montana St but still significantly better. Just waiting on Conklin to save us isn’t the answer, need depth at every position to compete unfortunately
 
Green Cookie Monster said:
How exciting is a pocket only QB? Run into a dynamic defense that shuts down the pass then the O is one dimensional. Not sure why Conklin was recruited when it has been proven that a dual threat QB is what the modern college game requires.
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Depends on the talent surrounding that pocket passer. I agree a dual threat QB brings a different dynamic to the offense, but a talented pocket passer surrounded with talent can be just as potent, if not more. I mean, has watching what ETT has been doing not been exciting? He's 4th in the BSC in rushing (3rd in the BSC in all purpose yards) and that's with missing some time.

The biggest concerns with a pocket passer I have is the weather aspects given some of the locales we hit in conference play.
 
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