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Week 12 - Sac State at Cal Poly

SDHornet said:
You people get too hung up on the past and what other programs are doing. They have a senior laden roster with the best RB in FCS. We're going at it with a redshirt freshman quarterback because our projected senior starting quarterback quit. Anyone expecting no fall off and no mistakes with Conklin at the helm is not living in reality.

Bobby had a sub-par game plan today. I get that we have a lot of 2nd and 3rd string players starting on the offensive line, but the running game still needs to be utilized, if anything to keep the defense honest.
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I don’t want this season to become our future.

You lack confidence to make changes.

FUCD has new coach and he kicked Azz first year!

Our coaches are experienced with our roster and our SUCCESS!

You must enjoy being a bottom dweller. This implosion shouldn’t be taken lightly.

Week to Week I haven’t seen improvement.

I only hear from you each week. It’s okay, it’s expected, no need for change, have patience.

Starting to think you are OC Bobby F in here trying to save your own job with a ghost name in team chat. Are you related to him or something? 😂

What’s the deal?
 
SDHornet said:
This season was toast the second KB quit on this program. Anyone retaining the lofty expectations with an offense that was thrust upon a freshman quarterback is not rooted in reality.

Conklin makes mistakes, it's going to happen. He will learn from it and move on. And yes, a loss to Wulff is embarrassing, no other way around that.
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Season was toast when Bobby was our OC year 2.

Bobby didn’t manage his QB’s very well.

Bobby didn’t prepare his other QB’s knowing BOTH how fragile KB is and also that he’s not a team player and might throw tantrum and run away,

All goes back to the person in charge of the offensive resources and play calling, The players talents are the ASSETS.
 
Phantom Hornet said:
So this staff put all their eggs in the basket of an up and down QB who is made of glass.... and they are then shocked when it doesn't work out? Again, that's ON THE COACHING STAFF.
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What program doesn't put all the eggs in their returning senior quarterback basket?
 
Phantom Hornet said:
Are you friends of the family or something? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.
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No, just a long time fan that seen us burn through a lot of subpar quarterbacks in the D1 era to know we finally got a special talent on our roster. Going into this week, Conklin was in the top 3 in a lot of passing categories in the BSC, to see the checkers players on this board not able to understand the talent and potential we have in Conklin is mindboggling. Even more ludicrous when some of the checkers players are ok with him leaving the team. The fact that some folks are willing to change direction from a redshirt quarterback that is trending upwards for an complete unknown in the portal leaves me perplexed.

Conklin is damn good. The coaches are putting all their eggs in that basket. I do not fault them for doing so. Andy and Bobby have next year to figure it out. If they can't turn it around, the reset button needs to be smashed by Orr. It's not a hard or questionable stance to take.
 
HornetFootballFan said:
Sorry… but you must always prepare for the unexpected.

Injuries, Transfer Portal, or Tantrum run away on your team,

A team always needs quality back up QB’s. You know that’s true too.
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Walk me through how the coaches could have prepared for their returning senior quarterback from quitting after week 2?
 
Copy and paste of my post on the "coaches should have been ready" from the other thread. Seriously, someone walk me through how the coaches could have "been prepared" for KB quitting.:


I'm not sure how it's on the coaches for not having a plan to replace their quitter starting senior quarterback on the fly other than going with the redshirt freshman who was being groomed to take over anyways.

In what world would a talented and desirable transfer quarterback want to come to a program where a true freshman got significant reps the season prior and is the obvious heir apparent? Even if the coaches pre-emptively bounced KB in the offseason, you think players would want to come to a program whose coaches bounced their senior quarterback that just led them to a post season win? Do you people understand that only a non-serious program would pull such a ridiculous move? You think KB and his crew wouldn't blast such a move all over SM and knee cap any chances of landing serious recruits/transfers?

You people need to get with the times and start thinking things through before posting utter nonsense. Nothing anyone has posted about this situation has considered the ramifications free agency has on the situation. It's all just emotional knee jerk reactions to placate a desire to win games that are already over.

I said this before and I'll say this again, yes it sucks that KB quit on this team and put the program in this situation, but all this really did was speed up the Conklin timeline by a season. Did people seriously think because Conklin would have gotten another season of spot starts and limited reps behind KB that it would be enough for him to tear through the '25 schedule? If anything this season is a boon for Conklin considering he gets to throw to two very experienced and talented receivers in Gipson and Grover and kickstart his development. I just hope Conklin sticks around because no doubt he'll get some offers this offseason, but he certainly won't be here if Coach Fresques is axed.

You people need to stop dooming. Yes the losing sucks, yes the coaches are accountable for the sub par results this season, yes there should be some changes to the staff, no Andy and Bobby shouldn't get fired. If these coaches can keep Conklin and surround him with talent then this Hornet offense will be very exciting to watch for years to come.
 
SDHornet said:
No, just a long time fan that seen us burn through a lot of subpar quarterbacks in the D1 era to know we finally got a special talent on our roster. Going into this week, Conklin was in the top 3 in a lot of passing categories in the BSC, to see the checkers players on this board not able to understand the talent and potential we have in Conklin is mindboggling. Even more ludicrous when some of the checkers players are ok with him leaving the team. The fact that some folks are willing to change direction from a redshirt quarterback that is trending upwards for an complete unknown in the portal leaves me perplexed.

Conklin is damn good. The coaches are putting all their eggs in that basket. I do not fault them for doing so. Andy and Bobby have next year to figure it out. If they can't turn it around, the reset button needs to be smashed by Orr. It's not a hard or questionable stance to take.
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I’d let Coach AT make changes himself to his staff.

Based upon the type of changes he’d make he’d either gain or lose my confidence in his choices.

The X Factor to save HC is he better start showing success Recruiting. He needs depth across his team.

If a great coach suddenly became available like Tro Taylor getting Fired as an unexpected yet upgrade in a HC then I’d make the move and offer AT back his DC role unless he’d rather resign in that scenario.
 
SDHornet said:
Walk me through how the coaches could have prepared for their returning senior quarterback from quitting after week 2?
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If you are in touch w your players. You see personalities that are a nice tell.

If you see his ability to easily get injured. Make plays taking big contact hits rather than sliding.

If you see a QB being divisive and stubborn to coaching I’d see red flags,

Same on how they deal w fans. Social media etc.
Team Player or Selfish Player! Bad temper?
Mentor to younger players? Or a conceited jerk?

Coaches should know these traits on every player.

However no team should have only 1 RS freshman QB ready to be backup, we recruited others but appears none of them were able to play better than Conklin.

Totally understandable. Conklin is a solid QB but he’s a freshman and needs more development from a solid QB coach.

Maybe our OC genius could have run 2 QB system w Conklin and maybe the 3rd string QB who was a good scrambler in red zone situations?

I’m not an OC or. QB Coach but these things are common sense in business too.

Yes. CFB is a business. Coaches manage talent. And they need WINS
 
I'm with SD. There's no way anyone could have foreseen KB turning into a coward. The coaching staff has done a very poor job, and there have been injuries. There will be changes, but we don't know how that will pan out yet. Next year will be better....
 
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