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We're going to Kansas in '09
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The Bears' 2009 schedule is nowhere near being finalized. Not even close. When it is, it will be released.
We're still more than two weeks away from starting the 2008 season. Releasing next year's schedule this early is not common and does not indicate any sort of "lazy" actions by UNC, I assure you.
As fans, enjoy this season. If you haven't made it to a preseason practice (they are all open to the public) you should. It's going to be a fun year.
We're still more than two weeks away from starting the 2008 season. Releasing next year's schedule this early is not common and does not indicate any sort of "lazy" actions by UNC, I assure you.
As fans, enjoy this season. If you haven't made it to a preseason practice (they are all open to the public) you should. It's going to be a fun year.
Blofeld
Active member
I'm not saying they should have a released '09 schdule now but rather I'm suggesting it's sometimes nice to release interesting items of note as they become available. But I do know quite a few schools publish future schdules with just the games they have under contract which is nice.
Anyway if Kansas is publishing this then it's obviously a done deal but it seems like if the A.D. is asked about it we'd just get a no comment...
So speaking of no info, why no word on that 10 million going into Butler Hancock this summer?
Anyway if Kansas is publishing this then it's obviously a done deal but it seems like if the A.D. is asked about it we'd just get a no comment...
So speaking of no info, why no word on that 10 million going into Butler Hancock this summer?
uncfootballrules
Active member
Good game to have. I would prefer a big name who is a little softer (i.e. out of the top 20) but still really good game to get. I will remain quite on the releasing of schedules... :lol:
TheScott said:
TheScott - welcome to the board! Most people here (myself included at times) are frustrated on the lack of information being made public. I don't know who's being "lazy" but look around at other programs website like U. or Montana (first class website). They have laid just about everything you can imagine out there for their fans. It goes beyond the website too and maybe you don't have as much controll over that, but for instance - The Tribune briefly mentions that Bryan Waggener isn't at practice anymore because he's taking care of "family issues". Well...that's sort of a big deal! He's our starting QB and he's no where to be known. That's either crappy reporting from the Tribune or there just isn't any info being released! We would like to know where are stud QB is at!!!!
In regards to the Waggener situation, you all will have to remember that the Bears are still student-athletes, at least, and human beings, at most. He was dealing with "family issues" and that's all that needed to be released. Personal issues arise in all our lives and we all have a right to privacy from time to time -- just because he's a quarterback doesn't take that away. And, besides, he's been back and running with the first team for some time.
In regards to the Web site, be patient (and we know you all have for a long time, and we appreciate it). Once the new site is up, we'll have a lot more channels to release information in an appealing and interesting manner. Also the SID office here continues to grow and with that will come similar coverage that other schools enjoy. Montana's SID office is a benchmark in the conference, and the hope is that our's will grow to that level. A third person was added full-time this past month (Dana Miller) and with my hiring, we are at three full-timers. It's getting there.
Thanks again for all of your passion in the Bears. And like I said above, come out to practice. You're all welcome and good things are happening. I come here from the University of Missouri and I can assure you it can happen. My freshman year, we lost to Bowling Green ... by a lot. Now, we're on the cover of SI. I'm not saying that kind of transformation will take place
, but things are definitely changing. Come take a look.
In regards to the Web site, be patient (and we know you all have for a long time, and we appreciate it). Once the new site is up, we'll have a lot more channels to release information in an appealing and interesting manner. Also the SID office here continues to grow and with that will come similar coverage that other schools enjoy. Montana's SID office is a benchmark in the conference, and the hope is that our's will grow to that level. A third person was added full-time this past month (Dana Miller) and with my hiring, we are at three full-timers. It's getting there.
Thanks again for all of your passion in the Bears. And like I said above, come out to practice. You're all welcome and good things are happening. I come here from the University of Missouri and I can assure you it can happen. My freshman year, we lost to Bowling Green ... by a lot. Now, we're on the cover of SI. I'm not saying that kind of transformation will take place
, but things are definitely changing. Come take a look.
Blofeld
Active member
Thanks TheScott, compliments to you you're the most interaction a lot of us have had with the athletic department since Colin left so I think that's great. I for one have been one of the most vocal critics but I'll make a point to chill out a bit and give things time to come around. Also, thanks for the info, it's all good to hear.
As ridiculous as this sounds, Mangino and company are playing a much tougher schedule this year than they did last year....Both Texas and Oklahoma are on the schedule....plus that road game at South Florida. Having said that, they probably won't match that 11-1 record again, and may not be ranked going into '09.
budbear
Active member
Can any of you local Greeley people give us some insight on how the practices are going and who looks good and who doesn't. Any photos would be nice too. I know if I lived around the Greeley area I would be at the practices checking things out. I am looking forward to a good season this year.
Blofeld said:
I'm a sports fan just like all of you, and I was really excited to find that there was a sports MB for UNCO.
I'm sure you all understand, but there will obviously be topics I can't get involved in discussing. And with UNCO being my employer, there will be certain things that you all are able to do that I won't be able to. That said, I'll do my best to visit every day and help "right wrongs" and give as much info on topics that I can. Supporters like you all are the lifeblood of an athletic department, and the main reason I visited and posted the first time was I noticed some incorrect views of what was going on over at BH, and I didn't want you all to incorrectly waste your energy.
So, like Troy, there will be times I'll have to remain mum. And the lions' share of my effort will have to be spent on uncbears.com -- but I'll do my best.
And just so you all know. Our fall lineup looks like this:
Heather Kennedy (football -- media guide is out and available)
Dana Miller (women's soccer -- media guide out soon)
Scott Ward (volleyball -- media guide is out)
All (cross country -- media guide TBD)
bearsradio
Active member
Couple of thoughts as I pop back into my life:
1) Future schedules are often not worth the time & effort wasted by fans on them. Montana State got a late deal from Kansas State this year after the Wildcats pulled out of their deal to play Fresno State. When you have teams still "doctoring" their schedules in the spring and summer, the futures don't mean much.
2) Air Force still has us listed on their website at playing there next year on Sept. 5th.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/afa/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/FutureSchedules.pdf
3) "why no word on that 10 million going into Butler Hancock this summer?" None of that work is being done until next summer.
4) "The Tribune briefly mentions that Bryan Waggener isn't at practice anymore because he's taking care of "family issues". Well...that's sort of a big deal! He's our starting QB and he's no where to be known. That's either crappy reporting from the Tribune or there just isn't any info being released!"
Unless you listened to KFKA's morning show briefly one day last week, you probably don't know that I was out of state until today because of "family issues". Do you really need to know why? Everyone deserves some privacy in their lives, no matter the visibility of some aspects of their days.
...and, yeah, I'm not real happy to be awake this morning. :twisted:
1) Future schedules are often not worth the time & effort wasted by fans on them. Montana State got a late deal from Kansas State this year after the Wildcats pulled out of their deal to play Fresno State. When you have teams still "doctoring" their schedules in the spring and summer, the futures don't mean much.
2) Air Force still has us listed on their website at playing there next year on Sept. 5th.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/afa/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/FutureSchedules.pdf
3) "why no word on that 10 million going into Butler Hancock this summer?" None of that work is being done until next summer.
4) "The Tribune briefly mentions that Bryan Waggener isn't at practice anymore because he's taking care of "family issues". Well...that's sort of a big deal! He's our starting QB and he's no where to be known. That's either crappy reporting from the Tribune or there just isn't any info being released!"
Unless you listened to KFKA's morning show briefly one day last week, you probably don't know that I was out of state until today because of "family issues". Do you really need to know why? Everyone deserves some privacy in their lives, no matter the visibility of some aspects of their days.
...and, yeah, I'm not real happy to be awake this morning. :twisted:
bearsradio said:
Ok grouchy.
The thing about the Waggener is no one really knew if and when he would be back. Some players take a leave of absence for "family issues" and never come back. I didn't want to know the personal reasons why he left, maybe just would he even be back. It would have been nice to see someone elaborate on the matter. It's good to see that he is here now though
As for the schedules, we've got to keep the game with Air Force. I don't care how much Kansas is giving us. We need to schedule one of the in state big schools at least once a year.
bearsradio
Active member
Beardown,
Keep in mind that there are multiple layers to how/why/when those details were kept private, and none specifically has to do with Waggener - they are the same layers that are present in every similar case.
1. Does the student-athlete want to make this info public? No? There are protections in place to keep that from happening IF they want it to remain private.
2. Does the coach want to make this info public?
3. Does the athletic administration want to make this info public?
In the news biz, its become tougher over the past decade to get some info that was basically expected by the public. The #1 item limiting what's released by hospitals, police, schools, etc., is the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPPA). Add the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) to that, and you've got two very onerous laws in place that send administrators scurrying a bit.
In terms of covering their butts, most oversight groups keep their mouths shut unless they've been given explicit approval to say something about the situation. Its not uncommon nowdays to hear about a traffic accident where someone's been hospitalized, but the media can't get the condition, name, etc., because its not been cleared.
Now, I could get into the arguments about what the laws truly cover or don't--my brother delivered an earful to me this weekend when I brought HIPPA up--but, I've already probably bored you...Let's just leave it as student-athlete info is protected more now than it ever has been, especially what info gets out to the media.
Keep in mind that there are multiple layers to how/why/when those details were kept private, and none specifically has to do with Waggener - they are the same layers that are present in every similar case.
1. Does the student-athlete want to make this info public? No? There are protections in place to keep that from happening IF they want it to remain private.
2. Does the coach want to make this info public?
3. Does the athletic administration want to make this info public?
In the news biz, its become tougher over the past decade to get some info that was basically expected by the public. The #1 item limiting what's released by hospitals, police, schools, etc., is the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPPA). Add the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) to that, and you've got two very onerous laws in place that send administrators scurrying a bit.
In terms of covering their butts, most oversight groups keep their mouths shut unless they've been given explicit approval to say something about the situation. Its not uncommon nowdays to hear about a traffic accident where someone's been hospitalized, but the media can't get the condition, name, etc., because its not been cleared.
Now, I could get into the arguments about what the laws truly cover or don't--my brother delivered an earful to me this weekend when I brought HIPPA up--but, I've already probably bored you...Let's just leave it as student-athlete info is protected more now than it ever has been, especially what info gets out to the media.
