What are your expectations for the program?

[PurpleBlood]

I still don't know if Mcbride was let go or if he quit but losing him was the worst thing ever. Even though we had a couple of 5 and 6 win seasons, you can't expect us to ever get wins against the Montana schools or FBS teams. That puts us at 6-1 or 5-2 against schools who are at our same level. We were also just a few plays away from having 7 or 8 wins. The year Mac left we had a damn good football team. All we need is a 5-6 win team and our fan base will keep growing.

 

[fb8989]

Yes, looking at where the program is now, 5 and 6 win seasons would be a whole lot better than what is going on now. But, that shouldn't mean we should be lowering our expectations. Weber should consistently be competing with and beating other bsc schools including the montanas like they did in the past.
Now, since what has happened over the past couple of years, the program took a huge dive and is playing the re-building game. And we will see if Sears and his staff are a "re-building type" of coaching staff. I know its Sears' first rodeo at this but I don't know if he is that type of coach. Mac definitely was and the results speak for themselves. Mac did exactly what he is known to do, turn things around. I think Sears will get his shot to recruit his players and we will see if he can turn this program around once again. There's a lot of work that needs to be done...
When you look back at it, I think the responsibility falls on the AD Bovee. There were some definite issues with the whole Mac leaving thing and the John L hire obviously wasn't the right move. The foundation was set by Coach Mac just like how he did at Utah. All Bovee needed to do was really THINK about things and I feel things would be a whole lot different right now. Bovee had his opportunities to hire a "Mac" guy just like Utah did and Utah St. and look how those programs are doing. These last couple of years would be completely different if Bovee had went that route and he definitely had the opportunity to do so. Imagine how different this program would''ve been with a Eck or McGiven or even A. Roderick...Wow.
I think Sears will still get his opportunity to make this his program and recruit his athletes since everything blew up but if that doesn't go so well (which it obviously hasn't so far), Sears has to go and so does Bovee!

 

[wsucatfan]

When you look back at it, I think the responsibility falls on the AD Bovee. There were some definite issues with the whole Mac leaving thing and the John L hire obviously wasn't the right move. The foundation was set by Coach Mac just like how he did at Utah. All Bovee needed to do was really THINK about things and I feel things would be a whole lot different right now. Bovee had his opportunities to hire a "Mac" guy just like Utah did and Utah St. and look how those programs are doing. These last couple of years would be completely different if Bovee had went that route and he definitely had the opportunity to do so. Imagine how different this program would''ve been with a Eck or McGiven or even A. Roderick...Wow.
I think Sears will still get his opportunity to make this his program and recruit his athletes since everything blew up but if that doesn't go so well (which it obviously hasn't so far), Sears has to go and so does Bovee!

Ugh, Bovee really :wtf: no one complained about JLS when he was hired, http://www.bigskyfans.com/wildcats/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2801&p=23868&hilit=smith+hired#p23868 looking back at the threads everyone was pretty excited. Bovee is not the problem at WSU, no one on this forum knows exactly what the deal was with Mac deciding or being pressured to leave a year early.

It sucks JLS dropped us to go back to Arkansas but he made in 1 year what he would have at WSU in 7-8 years. We can't see into the future no one would have expected Smith to be a terrible hire, and that included Arkansas who if everyone remembers was favored to be a BCS championship contending team and under Smith were average at best.

You mention Eck or McGiven, or A. Roderick would have been a better hire, maybe, but if they are a sure thing then why aren't they college HC's now?

Currently Don Eck a first year head coach of Corner Canyon High School in Utah, currently they are 3-3.

Kevin McGiven as we all probably know is the O.C. for the Aggies, and he's pretty good, or with a good QB he looks really good. But he left us in 2009, so how committed was he to WSU the first go around.

Aaron Roderick, offered the Hawaii HC job, turned it down, hired as a BYU position coach, quickly turns face (again, did it previously leaving Utah for Washington and coming back) and returns to Utah to take the wide receiver position coaching job. Looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, must be a JLS clone.

 

[oldrunner]

I'm not saying that I know everything about running a defense. However, when two DBs are covering three receivers, I think there may be an issue. That describes two of their touchdowns. Sears needs to fire his defensive coordinator.

 

[wsucatfan]

I still don't know if Mcbride was let go or if he quit but losing him was the worst thing ever.

Not worst thing ever but I would have liked to see how Mac would have done his last contracted year. Mac's best year was 2008 we were 10-4. HIs overall WSU record was 38 wins and 32 losses 54% winning average.

Even though we had a couple of 5 and 6 win seasons, you can't expect us to ever get wins against the Montana schools or FBS teams.

Possibly the worst statement made on this forum, so wrong on so many levels. A 4 loss team should the minimum standard WSU fans should expect, and that included winning against UM and MSU and once in a great while beating a FBS team, if SUU can beat UNLV and S Alabama, there is no reason why Weber State can't expect to get a win, but they have to schedule right. 2008 would have been a great year to play USU, but they wouldn't play us, we could have, should have won at Colorado St that year but we didn't.

The year Mac left we had a damn good football team.

No, his last year we were an average 6-5 BSC team.

All we need is a 5-6 win team and our fan base will keep growing.

Again, no, sure this year we would love to be a 5 or 6 win team but that will not grow the fan base at all. If we do not get to the level of winning, consistently making the playoffs, and being a BSC championship contending team with all the new facilities being built then we will not grow our fan base at all.

 

[wsucatfan]

I'm not saying that I know everything about running a defense. However, when two DBs are covering three receivers, I think there may be an issue. That describes two of their touchdowns. Sears needs to fire his defensive coordinator.

That would be Eric Lewis, who is the DC, and over the secondary...

“The guys in the locker room were good,” Sears said. “The defense was good; offensively there was some good talk in there. There were a lot of positive things we’re going to see on that film tomorrow.”

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=27048515&nid=968

Uh, what game were you watching Sears?

 

[PurpleBlood]

The year Mac left we were 5-6. We were also one play away from beating Wyoming. We were a play away from beating E-Wash. We were a touchdown away from beating SUU. Win even two of those three and were in the playoffs. Luck just didn't go our way. Also, the athletes that Mac was recruiting were nothing like Weber has ever seen.

If were a .500 team, were usually fairing pretty well in the Big Sky and were usually winning 3 to 4 games at home. We would also end up making the playoffs every few seasons. I also think we would continue to build the fan base because we get new fans through basketball. We just need to be competitive enough in football to keep them. Over Mac's last three seasons we had over 10k to several games.

Of course I would love to be better. What I meant to say is my expectations are to win at least 5 to 6 games every season to avoid the embarrassment of having a joke team. If you keep going 5-6 or 6-5, eventually the ball is going to bounce your way and you will be in the playoffs with a 7-4 or 8-3 record. I don't think we know how hard it is to win college football games or Mac would still be here. When he left, the program was, "right where it needs to be." Then why the hell are you stepping down during the season?

 

[SWWeatherCat]

“The guys in the locker room were good,” Sears said. “The defense was good; offensively there was some good talk in there. There were a lot of positive things we’re going to see on that film tomorrow.”

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=27048515&nid=968

Uh, what game were you watching Sears?

You missed this gem:

“It’s hard to win a college football game.”

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=27048515&nid=968

Uh? Red flags!

As far as my expectations go? I've watched this program for 30+ years and am completely grounded in reality. I don't expect too much, however, I do expect competent coaching and fundamentally sound players. There's no reason with those two things that Weber can't put a competitive and entertaining football team on the field, neither of which has been seen defensively this season or offensively except in a fluke 1st game. Frankly, this is some of the poorest football I've ever seen Weber play.

 

[talhadfoursteals]

I'm a Bovee fan but something has to be said about his hiring of coaches. Peterson, Ord, and Sears, uh, not the best. I knew this season would be bad, but so far it has been downright painful. Morton or Pflu would be better options to guide this atrocity of a football team. Hell, this football team makes the Titanic tragedy look fun.

 

[wsucatfan]

“The guys in the locker room were good,” Sears said. “The defense was good; offensively there was some good talk in there. There were a lot of positive things we’re going to see on that film tomorrow.”

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=27048515&nid=968

Uh, what game were you watching Sears?

You missed this gem:

“It’s hard to win a college football game.”

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=27048515&nid=968

Uh? Red flags!

:wall: sad

 

[SWeberCat02]

Bovee has clearly shown he is incompetent in the most important part of his job, hiring head coaches. Obviously Lucifer never should have been hired. But even if you give him a pass on that debacle, bringing back Sears is inexcusable. Did he even watch a game last season? And don't even get me started on Ord.

 

[SWeberCat02]

Don't let Bovee know that Lane Kiffin is unemployed. He'd probably hire him.

 

[SWWeatherCat]

... Obviously Lucifer never should have been hired. ...

:rofl:

 

[WSUfan1]

People need to quit blaming Bovee for the athletic struggles, in particular WSU football. Yeah the past four games have sucks. However, the fact Bovee has improved all aspects of WSU athletics, its amazing he doesn't get more praise. I actually think he is the 2nd most important WSU employee. Number one goes to Rahe. I cant even begin to count the many athletic upgrades that have been done under Bovee. I will make a small list from memory. Football: new field turf, new lights on football field, new bathrooms on West Side (very nice), new handicap section, new designs around concrete edges, new section signs, tailgating parties, purple entrance smoke, fireworks, band involvement at games,new practice field turf, new INDOOR PRACTICE FACILITY etc. Basketball: new jumbo-tron, new floor, new parking lot, handicap accessible entrances, shot clocks, basketball standards, floor screen, CIT home games, etc. General Athletics: new tennis court surface/fences, resurrection of womens softball, with a new field and everything, the new track surface, upgraded soccer field with scoreboard and bleachers, Swenson gym upgrade for volleyball, the golf team now plays in a actual conference, etc etc etc. So please, give the "fire Bovee" a freaking break you tards. :blah: :blah: Bovee is actually a genius. I think too many forget that in the contract Bovee made for Sears, it is a brilliant one. If Sears doesnt win four games this year, he can be fired without compensation. If in 2014, he doesnt win 6 games, same thing. in 2015, if he doesnt win at least 6 games, same deal. He gave Sears a chance, if Sears blows is, then fine. The re-hiring process begins in December. When basketball comes around, I dont see posters calling for Bovee to be fired. I know Bovee will do the right thing at the end of the season. Trust the man who has done so much more good than bad. You guys act like the top coaching candidates in the country are putting in for WSU football, womens basketball and volleyball positions. Come on guys, get a grip!!

 

[wsucatfan]

Bovee has clearly shown he is incompetent in the most important part of his job, hiring head coaches. Obviously Lucifer never should have been hired. But even if you give him a pass on that debacle, bringing back Sears is inexcusable. Did he even watch a game last season? And don't even get me started on Ord.

Who cares about women's basketball?

 

[SWeberCat02]

Bovee has clearly shown he is incompetent in the most important part of his job, hiring head coaches. Obviously Lucifer never should have been hired. But even if you give him a pass on that debacle, bringing back Sears is inexcusable. Did he even watch a game last season? And don't even get me started on Ord.

Who cares about women's basketball?

Whether anyone cares or not, it's an example of a bad hire.

 

[SWeberCat02]

http://www.standard.net/stories/2013/09/28/when-you-thought-it-couldn-t-get-worse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Judging by the comments, expectations are pretty low as long as Sears is coaching.

 

[AlumniWSU]

Just have to reply to the latest 'WSUfan' thread, you give AD Bovee too much credit for all the improvements; he deserves thanks for improved facilities, yes, but it all wasn't just thru his efforts. His coaching hire decisions have not proven wise, for the most part. Your earlier statement on scheduling instate FBS football teams to play the Wildcats as being fun, exciting and competitive to the fans, I dare to disagree!! hno: In our rath over another BUST of a football season, us fans can & do point fingers, all with some justification. But the blame belongs to several, including the AD. I, for one, will say to his credit, HC Sears hasn't used any valid excuses, like losing 8-7 players right off the bat over academic issues (not his fault), the scheduled FBS double beatings (his & the team being thrown under the bus), and the usual injuries to key players . There's been a cloud over WSU football going on for 2 years now. A lot of us say that it's not necessarily this season's expected losses that angers us, it's how they lost :-( and the coaches deserve blame, Sears admits that. Just wish that Sears & staff could adjust/correct their failed O/D strategies to fit with the inexperienced players they have to work with. Tough decisions ahead, changes need to be made, but don't come down on the naysayers' threads here, they all have some good points to make and it's goin' to be a bumpy road ahead!

 

[thewaterboy]

My expectations for this year were VERY low to begin with, BUT I didnt expect to get our asses kicked at home by SUCK ST. :bad:
I personally think that Bovee should definitely be taking heat because he is the guy at the top when the football program collapsed yet again.
On a side note, which team is worse? this current team or Graybeals last team?

 

[PURPLEFORLIFE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCYBHy_lAYs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Kinda reminds me of coach Sears.