WSU football scheduling.

[ajwildcat]

Can someone please explain to my what Mr. Bovee's philosophy on football scheduling? I heard him state in a radio interview last week that he has NO interest in scheduling the likes of Oregon or Oklahoma because he wants the team to have a chance of success. :roll: Isnt it better to play an Oregon for $750k and then play 10 FCS games? Or would you seriously rather play 2 FBS games that you are going to get your ass kicked in anyway and combined make your $750k.
To me it's stupid to turn down an Oregon AND an extra home game. hno: Someone please explain why Bovee keeps trying to schedule WSU out of the playoffs in football. :thumbdown:

 

[thewaterboy]

Can someone please explain to my what Mr. Bovee's philosophy on football scheduling? I heard him state in a radio interview last week that he has NO interest in scheduling the likes of Oregon or Oklahoma because he wants the team to have a chance of success. :roll: Isnt it better to play an Oregon for $750k and then play 10 FCS games? Or would you seriously rather play 2 FBS games that you are going to get your ass kicked in anyway and combined make your $750k.
To me it's stupid to turn down an Oregon AND an extra home game. hno: Someone please explain why Bovee keeps trying to schedule WSU out of the playoffs in football. :thumbdown:

I agree, to me it makes much more sense to schedule 1 ass kicking to get your $700k than it does to schedule 2 ass kickings to get your $700k. I know you have to have at least 7 wins to be eligible or the playoffs and that is very difficult with the way WSU schedules. Maybe going to the playoffs isn't really one of the goals of this administration. :dunce:

 

[ajwildcat]

WSU has played 2 mid-level (as far as pay) every season since 2008-2009. Maybe they should try a season or two of playing 1 big FBS (as far as $$) in a season. :thumb:

 

[WILDCAT]

WSU has played 2 mid-level (as far as pay) every season since 2008-2009. Maybe they should try a season or two of playing 1 big FBS (as far as $$) in a season. :thumb:

I hate these games too, losing 45-13 to BYU is not going to build this fanbase at all, WINNING builds fanbases.

how much money did we get from both Boston College and Texas Tech in 2010?

 

[weberwildcat]

ive always had the philosophy to play one big boy for 500k or more, 700k would be even better for one game. I know ISU got 1.3 million for its two games vs Okla and ASU in 2009. what did wsu get in 2011 from wyo/usu? 300k? (hopefully not)

i really doubt athletics received 700k between byu and fresno. i know nothing but would assume since byu is an instate team they low balled us. again its just my own assumptions. heard byu paid 375k. that is low for a big boy unless byu doesn't count but they want to be a big boy so i would expect big boy pay. fresno would have had to pay 325k for weber to get 700k in 2012.

byu will pay usu 1 million for its game in provo at the end of a 2 for 1. usu agreed to go to provo twice because of the big pay out.

i just want to see 1 fbs and 10 fcs if possible. we need all the chances we can get to shoot for 7 DI wins. playing 2 fbs per year even against even the weaker fbs isnt helping. so if we can move to one big pay out we can stil get the money the program needs and help the players have the best opportunity to win as many games as possible.

now if we can play 10 fcs and not get enough wins well that isnt the administrations fault.

the other scenario i would rather have is 1 big money game and a non DI at home. using the 700k number, well if you can get that from a big boy from one game and then play a non DI that doesn't count that is still better than 2 FBS for 700k. its another home game and its a win at least. you probably have a lower chance of injuries vs a DII than an FBS as well it could mean more playing time and one less game to travel.

playing 1 big pay out against say oregon woudl be a demoralizing loss for the team but wouldn't we say the same thing losing big 2 medium grade FBS like we did this yr? yes it would be great to beat an fbs like sac/nau did on sat especially one of these winnable ones but the fact is our record is something like 3-48 vs fbs.

 

[WILDCAT]

It really could be worse, we could be like Southern Utah who scheduled up twice and scheduled a down game, so SUU HAS to win 7 of thier last 8 games.

 

[SWeberCat02]

Bovee says he wants to get to a point where he only has to schedule one FBS game. And that's how we all feel. But it won't happen until home games become more profitable, meaning until more butts are in the seats it won't change.

 

[thewaterboy]

It really could be worse, we could be like Southern Utah who scheduled up twice and scheduled a down game, so SUU HAS to win 7 of thier last 8 games.

SUU apparently isn't used to scheduling with the playoffs in mind either, WSU should be used to it but it doesnt seem like they care.

 

[thewaterboy]

Bovee says he wants to get to a point where he only has to schedule one FBS game. And that's how we all feel. But it won't happen until home games become more profitable, meaning until more butts are in the seats it won't change.

I call complete B.S. on that argument! :roll: 1 FBS for 700k vs 2 FBS for 700k has NOTHING to do with butts in seats at home games. Its all about $$ and you can make the same playing 1 big one vs 2 medium ones.

 

[SWeberCat02]

Can someone please explain to my what Mr. Bovee's philosophy on football scheduling? I heard him state in a radio interview last week that he has NO interest in scheduling the likes of Oregon or Oklahoma because he wants the team to have a chance of success. :roll: Isnt it better to play an Oregon for $750k and then play 10 FCS games? Or would you seriously rather play 2 FBS games that you are going to get your ass kicked in anyway and combined make your $750k.
To me it's stupid to turn down an Oregon AND an extra home game. hno: Someone please explain why Bovee keeps trying to schedule WSU out of the playoffs in football. :thumbdown:

The Bovee interview: http://1280thezone.com/index.php/audio/listen/dj_pk_jerry_bovie_weber_st_athletic_director" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[ajwildcat]

Can someone please explain to my what Mr. Bovee's philosophy on football scheduling? I heard him state in a radio interview last week that he has NO interest in scheduling the likes of Oregon or Oklahoma because he wants the team to have a chance of success. :roll: Isnt it better to play an Oregon for $750k and then play 10 FCS games? Or would you seriously rather play 2 FBS games that you are going to get your ass kicked in anyway and combined make your $750k.
To me it's stupid to turn down an Oregon AND an extra home game. hno: Someone please explain why Bovee keeps trying to schedule WSU out of the playoffs in football. :thumbdown:

The Bovee interview: http://1280thezone.com/index.php/audio/listen/dj_pk_jerry_bovie_weber_st_athletic_director" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yes thats the same interview where Bovee considered playing the Utes, Cougars & Aggies as home games/ :roll: I would hate to get my a$$ kicked like that at home.

 

[SWeberCat02]

Bovee says he wants to get to a point where he only has to schedule one FBS game. And that's how we all feel. But it won't happen until home games become more profitable, meaning until more butts are in the seats it won't change.

I call complete B.S. on that argument! :roll: 1 FBS for 700k vs 2 FBS for 700k has NOTHING to do with butts in seats at home games. Its all about $$ and you can make the same playing 1 big one vs 2 medium ones.

It is about $. That's why Montana and Montana St rearly schedule FBS games, because they pack their own stadiums and make lots of money at home games.

 

[SWeberCat02]

Bovee's philosophy is to make money AND not get embarrassed by the likes of Oregon. Agree or not, he isn't going to schedule the highest paying teams because Weber might end up looking like Savannah St, losing by 80+ points. So unless you can change his way of thinking, the best way to change things is by making home games more profitable.

 

[ajwildcat]

Bovee's philosophy is to make money AND not get embarrassed by the likes of Oregon. Agree or not, he isn't going to schedule the highest paying teams because Weber might end up looking like Savannah St, losing by 80+ points. So unless you can change his way of thinking, the best way to change things is by making home games more profitable.

Or just donate to other causes, if they aren't trying to make the playoffs then why waste my time?

 

[thewaterboy]

Bovee's philosophy is to make money AND not get embarrassed by the likes of Oregon. Agree or not, he isn't going to schedule the highest paying teams because Weber might end up looking like Savannah St, losing by 80+ points. So unless you can change his way of thinking, the best way to change things is by making home games more profitable.

Or just donate to other causes, if they aren't trying to make the playoffs then why waste my time?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Like you ever donate to anything anyway you jacka$$ :rofl: :rofl:

 

[SWeberCat02]

Bovee's philosophy is to make money AND not get embarrassed by the likes of Oregon. Agree or not, he isn't going to schedule the highest paying teams because Weber might end up looking like Savannah St, losing by 80+ points. So unless you can change his way of thinking, the best way to change things is by making home games more profitable.

Or just donate to other causes, if they aren't trying to make the playoffs then why waste my time?

If, as a fan, making the playoffs is the number one goal, then I would agree because it's clear that making the playoffs isn't Bovee's number one goal (or job), balancing his department's budget is. Just look at next year's schedule and you can see that. No way in hell is Weber making the playoffs with that schedule.

 

[weberwildcat]

Bovee's philosophy is to make money AND not get embarrassed by the likes of Oregon. Agree or not, he isn't going to schedule the highest paying teams because Weber might end up looking like Savannah St, losing by 80+ points. So unless you can change his way of thinking, the best way to change things is by making home games more profitable.

i think 80-0 in one game isnt any worse than 82-23 in 2 games for the same money. 2 games is too much to give up with so few games to play i a season. i dont understand the logic of saying until more butts are in the seats then we continue 2 fbs if that is true. now if they say that about playing 0 fbs then yes its common sense. but if its a matter of playing 2 fbs or getting better home attendance that doesn't make sense when you can get the same money from 1 game vs fbs as 2.

also we arent savannah state so its not the best comparison. no team is going to beat us 80-0 in 2012.

 

[SWeberCat02]

Bovee's philosophy is to make money AND not get embarrassed by the likes of Oregon. Agree or not, he isn't going to schedule the highest paying teams because Weber might end up looking like Savannah St, losing by 80+ points. So unless you can change his way of thinking, the best way to change things is by making home games more profitable.

i think 80-0 in one game isnt any worse than 82-23 in 2 games for the same money. 2 games is too much to give up with so few games to play i a season. i dont understand the logic of saying until more butts are in the seats then we continue 2 fbs if that is true. now if they say that about playing 0 fbs then yes its common sense. but if its a matter of playing 2 fbs or getting better home attendance that doesn't make sense when you can get the same money from 1 game vs fbs as 2.

also we arent savannah state so its not the best comparison. no team is going to beat us 80-0 in 2012.

I'm only stating what Bovee said. Agree with him or not (which clearly most don't), he said he won't schedule the higher paying games. Which means that unless they gain more revenue from home games (I assume that's what he means by "getting to a point where we don't have to schedule two FBS games") we're going to continue to see two money games every year.

 

[ajwildcat]

Bovee's philosophy is to make money AND not get embarrassed by the likes of Oregon. Agree or not, he isn't going to schedule the highest paying teams because Weber might end up looking like Savannah St, losing by 80+ points. So unless you can change his way of thinking, the best way to change things is by making home games more profitable.

i think 80-0 in one game isnt any worse than 82-23 in 2 games for the same money. 2 games is too much to give up with so few games to play i a season. i dont understand the logic of saying until more butts are in the seats then we continue 2 fbs if that is true. now if they say that about playing 0 fbs then yes its common sense. but if its a matter of playing 2 fbs or getting better home attendance that doesn't make sense when you can get the same money from 1 game vs fbs as 2.

also we arent savannah state so its not the best comparison. no team is going to beat us 80-0 in 2012.

I'm only stating what Bovee said. Agree with him or not (which clearly most don't), he said he won't schedule the higher paying games. Which means that unless they gain more revenue from home games (I assume that's what he means by "getting to a point where we don't have to schedule two FBS games") we're going to continue to see two money games every year.

And I'm only stating that I don't agree with this bull shizz philosophy

 

[SDHornet]

It sounds like we are firmly in the 2 FBS games per year too. Fortunately so far it looks like we are going with middle of the road/ bottom tier BCS opponents coupled with a favorable non-BCS opponent. NMSU & Colorado this year, Arizona State & San Jose State next year, and Washington is on the schedule for either '14 or '15 (not sure which). All it takes is a win here and there and it makes it less painful for the fan base.

As far as payouts go, Colorado paid us $460k for the win this year and I think we got around $400k for our win at Oregon State last year. Parlay that with a $300-$400k range against a MWC level opponent and all the coaching salaries and travel expenses are covered for the year. Unfortunately the playoff chances take a major hit unless an upset is pulled off. :twocents: