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CAUSEWAY WEEK: (RV) Sac State (7-4, 5-2 BSC) @ #15 UC Davis (7-3, 5-2 BSC)

Hornet99 said:
BIG10?!? lol
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They play UCLA in 2027 and 2029

Hornet99 said:
Nobody is begging, it’s just makes sense that a 70+ year rivalry would stand. Only a P like Coach P would back out of it, none of other past great coaches there would do that. The last 6 games, we’re 3-3, it’s still a rivalry.
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Asking UCD to back out of an actual commitment (to Stetson) so it can continue a game that the university didn't think twice about before it impulsively left the Big Sky. Sac State clearly didn't care about Causeway when it made this decision, and all the hot air about how UCD now refuses to continue the rivalry comes across as hypocritical and desperate. Why not just admit that Sac needs more games in 2026 and UCD doesn't?
 
Hornet25 said:
All these Davis fans jumping on the board AFTER the game shows they were too chicken shit to come on here before the game. They weren’t confident in their team.
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Nah, honestly just trying to have a rational conversation about the future of the Causeway Classic.
I've laid out the reasons why a yearly FCS vs. FBS rivalry game isn't smart for the FCS side.

I'd love to see the teams play each other every few years, it just doesn't make sense for Davis to it every year.

Can you give an example of a current FCS vs. FBS yearly game? Rivalry, or not?
Someone on our board mentioned JMU vs. William & Mary:
"just look at James Madison. They had a long rivalry with William and Mary for 40+ years that died when JMU moved up."

It will be interesting to see what happens with:
"Battle of the Blue" Delaware vs. Villanova. UD moved up this year. No game next year...
"Battle of the Piney Woods" Sam Houston vs. SFA. Sam moved up in '23 and they haven't played since (no future games scheduled yet)
William & Mary vs. JMU since 1978. Haven't played since '21 when JMU moved up.
 
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Claiming the Causeway can't continue at this point in time is a bitch-made stance. There will be legitimate issues when there is an FBS-FCS scenario in play but until that is formal it's just not a thing. The rivalry endured when both programs weren't in the same division let alone in the same conference so them hiding behind our BSC departure and a game against Stetson is a bitch-made argument in and of itself. That said, they want to discontinue the rivalry then that's their prerogative. I think that sentiment should be reciprocated across all sports if that's how they truly view it.
 
SDHornet said:
Claiming the Causeway can't continue at this point in time is a bitch-made stance. There will be legitimate issues when there is an FBS-FCS scenario in play but until that is formal it's just not a thing. The rivalry endured when both programs weren't in the same division let alone in the same conference so them hiding behind our BSC departure and a game against Stetson is a bitch-made argument in and of itself. That said, they want to discontinue the rivalry then that's their prerogative. I think that sentiment should be reciprocated across all sports if that's how they truly view it.
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The sad reality is when one team moves to FBS, rivalries die.

Since we are just pasting old posts....here's this one again....

Can you give an example of a current FCS vs. FBS yearly game? Rivalry, or not?

It will be interesting to see what happens with:
"Battle of the Blue" Delaware vs. Villanova. UD moved up this year. No game next year...
"Battle of the Piney Woods" Sam Houston vs. SFA. Sam moved up in '23 and they haven't played since (no future games scheduled yet)
William & Mary vs. JMU since 1978. Haven't played since '21 when JMU moved up.

I'm sure there are more.....
 
HerkyHearsIt said:
They play UCLA in 2027 and 2029


Asking UCD to back out of an actual commitment (to Stetson) so it can continue a game that the university didn't think twice about before it impulsively left the Big Sky. Sac State clearly didn't care about Causeway when it made this decision, and all the hot air about how UCD now refuses to continue the rivalry comes across as hypocritical and desperate. Why not just admit that Sac needs more games in 2026 and UCD doesn't?
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moronic ucd fans on here, first It’s not about 2026, Coach P said never again, no great UCD coach would ever say that. Also playing two road body bag games over three years at rose bowl means absolutely nothing in regards to UCD going to the Big10, you turds don’t even know sports well, get updated
 
SochorField said:
The sad reality is when one team moves to FBS, rivalries die.

Since we are just pasting old posts....here's this one again....

Can you give an example of a current FCS vs. FBS yearly game? Rivalry, or not?

It will be interesting to see what happens with:
"Battle of the Blue" Delaware vs. Villanova. UD moved up this year. No game next year...
"Battle of the Piney Woods" Sam Houston vs. SFA. Sam moved up in '23 and they haven't played since (no future games scheduled yet)
William & Mary vs. JMU since 1978. Haven't played since '21 when JMU moved up.

I'm sure there are more.....
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Since you don't understand that currently neither team is FBS, there is nothing stopping a renegotiation of terms and/or an outright cancellation clause in the scheduling agreement upon either team gaining FBS status from being included in the contract. Your premise of this rivalry being discontinued at this time because of FBS status is disingenuous.
 
SDHornet said:
Since you don't understand that currently neither team is FBS, there is nothing stopping a renegotiation of terms and/or an outright cancellation clause in the scheduling agreement upon either team gaining FBS status from being included in the contract. Your premise of this rivalry being discontinued at this time because of FBS status is disingenuous.
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Sac State is FBS or bust, remember (CUSA or MAC invite in November or some crap?)
So Sac is staying FCS now?

This thread hasn't been a serious conversation.
 
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Hornet99 said:
moronic ucd fans on here, first It’s not about 2026, Coach P said never again, no great UCD coach would ever say that. Also playing two road body bag games over three years at rose bowl means absolutely nothing in regards to UCD going to the Big10, you turds don’t even know sports well, get updated
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Nobody said anything about Davis going to the BIG10.
I previously mentioned playing BIG10 & MWC teams as our yearly FBS game.

If you aren't willing to read, this will never be a real conversation.
 
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SochorField said:
Nah, honestly just trying to have a rational conversation about the future of the Causeway Classic.
I've laid out the reasons why a yearly FCS vs. FBS rivalry game isn't smart for the FCS side.

I'd love to see the teams play each other every few years, it just doesn't make sense for Davis to it every year.

Can you give an example of a current FCS vs. FBS yearly game? Rivalry, or not?
Someone on our board mentioned JMU vs. William & Mary:
"just look at James Madison. They had a long rivalry with William and Mary for 40+ years that died when JMU moved up."

It will be interesting to see what happens with:
"Battle of the Blue" Delaware vs. Villanova. UD moved up this year. No game next year...
"Battle of the Piney Woods" Sam Houston vs. SFA. Sam moved up in '23 and they haven't played since (no future games scheduled yet)
William & Mary vs. JMU since 1978. Haven't played since '21 when JMU moved up.
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You were on the board before the game, so the comment wasn't directed at you. You can own it if you want though,.

As far as the Causeway, I've already said I don't think Davis wants to play 2 FBS games a season, so you're preaching to the choir. That doesn't mean that Davis can't make it work. Offering to take the Stetson game off of Davis's hands, so Stetson isn't stranded is fair and not backing out of anything if Stetson agrees, which they would have to in that situation. This is a choice by Davis, not some impossible situation. That is what people are trying to say.

There are financial and community benefits for the games to continue for both sides. If Davis doesn't value that, then that is on them and all parties will move on.
 
SochorField said:
Sac State is FBS or bust, remember (CUSA or MAC invite in November or some crap?)
So Sac is staying FCS now?

This thread hasn't been a serious conversation.
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We're FCS until we're not. This isn't hard to understand. This is nothing a clause in the contract can't address, anyone involved in contracts understands this.
 
SDHornet said:
The Academies prove you can win without passing the ball very often
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Have they though?

I guess if you’re talking about beating 2nd rate group of 5 conference teams, then kinda sorta.

The academies opt for run-heavy, deception based offenses because they are almost always lacking top shelf size, speed, and depth while often facing opponents that have bundles of all three.

IVY league programs tend to have the same challenges, but don’t usually schedule very far over their head and instead typically only face other IVY league teams and FCS programs. Because of that, they can run more wide open offenses because they don’t have to try to overcome the same type of disparities.

You’re not going to many, if any, FBS or FCS programs hoping to compete for league titles (and beyond) running academy style offenses. And for good reason.
 
SochorField said:
You guys are begging us to play you.
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A program currently only having 4 games on its 2026 schedule desperately attempting to fill more dates, on short notice, is in no way odd or unexpected. Neither is trying to find a way to include a program that’s been considered a local rival for 70 years. It’s a no-brainer.

None of the above somehow equates to that same team needing the other (in the long term) more than the other needs them.

If you were only referring to 2026 scheduling (it didn’t come across that way) — then you are correct, the Hornets need UCD more than the other way around. But that applies to more than just UCD, as Sac State is likely begging anyone with an opening on their 2026 schedule just the same.

But beyond 2026? Where the Hornets are striving to go — they don’t need UCD’s involvement in the least.
 
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SochorField said:
Nobody said anything about Davis going to the BIG10.
I previously mentioned playing BIG10 & MWC teams as our yearly FBS game.

If you aren't willing to read, this will never be a real conversation.
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Look this is the bottom line. Y'all scheduled Stetson when SAC was in theory still going to be in the Sky. Then that changed.

But what UCD should have done because this is a 71 year annual COMMUNITY event, said to Stetson: "hey, we will pay you a cancelation fee because our annual game with SAC is more important to our community". But your AD didn't. And now all of you hide behind the "we have a contract" blah blah.

Charity begins at home SochorField. If you can't or recognize that, then all of you have no business being upstanding community members for doing WHAT is right for our community.

THAT's the serious conversation! At least that's what I have instilled in my children and my staff at work.
 
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