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Bring Back Troy
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Bodega Joe
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Am I missing something? This isn't a done deal, is it?
Kadeezy
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It sounds like multiple sources (including our reliable OSH) that Alonzo Carter will get his first HC gig with the Hornets, and is forming his staff right now, with an official announcement coming after the CSU waiting period passes.
HeavyistheClown
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Coveted?So coveted that the departing head coach didn’t elect to keep the job for even a full calendar year.
If Carter ends up being hired, I’ll hope for the best but I can’t think of a less inspiring hire.
While I didn’t expect Brennan Marion to remain at Sac State for long, I was at least excited and intrigued by the hire and all the subsequent moves. Marion was a fairly hot coaching name, largely due to the “GoGo” success and hype.
But this potential hire will hit much differently, creating nowhere near the level of interest that Marion’s hire did or that Troy Taylor’s would.
Can TT sue based on racial discrimination? He was obviously without a doubt the best proven, most qualified candidate for the job.
Phantom Hornet
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Been following this program for 50 years, season ticket holder, and I'm officially out until Wood is gone...If there even is a football program when he's done with it. Screw this guy. Wouldn't be shocked if Orr is gone by the end of the year.
Can't stand ego driven people like this.
Can't stand ego driven people like this.
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LoveSacState
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Yeah I’d be pissed if it’s not Troy.
the Rat
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This was posted this morning. Don't know when it was taped. Talks coaching search, stadium, FBS and that AC would be an "interesting hire," "less of a big splash hire. " Next year's football schedule has only 3 games scheduled and the 4th has no set date. Also talks about basketball.
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I've been firmly in the rehire Troy camp. The point of my post was that most folks on here are viewing this through the lens of a Hornet football fan and not as someone making the decisions to carry out a campus-wide/political agenda. Anyone who has been in high level decision making situations, especially with staffing moves, knows it's not just based on merit.
Someone touched on the allegations used to oust Troy from Stanford and his open lawsuit with ESPN as a reason to not hire him. IMO those are valid concerns, it also brings up questions as to what behavior and actions occurred while he was here but was overlooked because of the winning. Food for thought.
Regarding Coach Carter, it's a pretty "meh" hire to me. We'll have to see what staff he brings in/retains and how he operates. As far as I know, he hasn't been involved in any play calling duties at either SJSU or UofA so I would imagine he plans to bring on an offensive coordinator who will handle the offense. Time well tell.
I was there, I'm well aware of the weather conditions. The revisionist history in my head had the UIW in front of a packed crowd...then pulling up the box score and seeing the reality of a meager 13.7k attended that game...oof.
The last 3 Hornet head coaches ended up in the FBS at programs with a much higher prestige than ours. For all the negative narratives surrounding our program, that fact seems to get glossed over the most.
Alonzo Carter Named a Finalist for Coveted Coaching Opening
A byproduct of success is that other teams and programs will try to take a piece of that to boost themselves. For coaches, it's also a sign that they are doingwww.si.com
Coveted? lol.
Valid point, the same reasons most are excited for Sac to go give it a go at FBS are the same reasons it was an attractive job.
The political nature of the CSU system and pushing other agendas besides excellence might ruin the whole thing, including the hire. Being a member of some racial committee shouldn’t allow one candidate to be pushed to the forefront. the thing is, it doesn’t mean he can’t succeed, but he hasn’t had the responsibility of running an offense much less a whole program.
Troy return comes with baggage of current lawsuit, but imagine if he had this level of financial support when he was here.
But bottom line is Sac might be scrounging for not only players but games next year. Expect a road heavy schedule.
the Rat
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If it is such a coveted job, and per Dr. Wood, attracting “high caliber” interest then why are the finalists a former coach dealing with allegations and a lawsuit, a running back coach who has never been an offensive coordinator, let alone a head coach at D3, D2 or D1, and a former NFL player who has only one year of head coaching experience? Let’s see. No football conference, a 2026 schedule with only 3 scheduled games, and a record of undelivered promises.
BuckeyeHornetFan
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I’m sure he can, but would doing so be worthwhile? That kind of thing would seem difficult to prove, especially in reverse.
Although the inept Wood has made so many ridiculous public, non-inclusive comments during his tenure that perhaps the right law firm could do something with it. IDK.
Just off the top of my head, the dolt has openly spoke about the university emulating an HBCU and working toward “eliminating whiteness” — though he rambles incoherently when pressed to explain what the latter actually means.
A PHD isn’t required to understand that those types of comments/goals/agendas/mandates are in no way inclusive and, instead, represent segregation and whatever “ist” or “ism” word you’d like to attach to it.
If those types of directives are indeed filtering down from a board of trustees to a State-run public institution — it also doesn’t take a PHD to understand that it subverts federal law.
Question is, who has the time, money, fortitude, and balls to bring forth that type of fight?
BuckeyeHornetFan
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We’re in lock step. This guy is the worst thing to happen to this university in recent memory.
His brash talk and aggressive goals wrt athletics made it appear differently at the beginning, but the more and more he’s opened his mouth and the more and more things have developed and played out — it’s become more and more apparent.
As for the notion that Wood is merely carrying out a mandate handed down to him by the BOT and State of CA, I gotta ask — are all CSU presidents acting in the same or similar manner?
Admittedly I don’t pay much attention to the other CSU’s, but I have yet to see or hear anything to suggest that all CSU’s are equally pushing the same agendas to the same degree. But perhaps I’m mistaken. It wouldn’t shock me given the current state of the State.
Regardless, my interest in this university and it’s athletics programs has reached an all-time low.
BuckeyeHornetFan
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A potential benefit of re-hiring Troy, along with his baggage, is that he might remain in place for a lot longer.
Since he’s already risen the ranks, so-to-speak, and the grass wasn’t necessarily greener — he may very well be inclined to stay at home and make this more of a destination job. Especially so if this program landing in FBS is still in the cards. Who knows.
And even if he still aspires to land another gig with a more prestigious program at the highest level — that next opportunity isn’t likely to materialize for quite a while.
However, if Alonzo Carter succeeds right out of the gate, or over a couple seasons, he’ll likely be the next to be lured away in a short period of time and this program will be seeking it’s 3rd consecutive short term minority hire and stuck in a cycle.
And that’s best case scenario.
Worst case scenario is that Carter is in over his head, as Andy Thompson was, and this program stinks. Then there went your opportunity for a proven winner and potentially longer term head coach.
Bodega Joe
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I can’t imagine any of these coaches would take this job unless they are 100% certain we have more than 4 games confirmed for the upcoming season. This leads me to believe (or hope) there’s some positive developments behind the scenes that we don’t know about regarding the 2026 schedule.
OldSchoolHornet
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The NCMFC is not made up of solely black coaches. There are members from other ethnicities including a large group of Hispanic coaches.
All I can say is I've heard some of the established/known names that inquired about the position during the last head coaching search and it was impressive. I don't know if that was the case this time around as it's obvious that Dr. Wood has his preferences, but there's a reason not all of the coaches that are interested are made public. At the end of the day there is a finite amount of D1 head coaching positions and an even smaller amount that become available in any given year, there will always be interest, especially if Dr. Wood is going to continue allocating the resources needed to garner success.
