2010 Recruits

[SWeberCat02]

From the posts I've read on the subject of Eastman leaving, it sounds like maybe his heart was never really here to begin with. And if so, why did he even come here if he wasn't fully committed to being here? Maybe it's not fair to accuse him of that, and I hope that that's not the case, but as these types of things continue to happen (assistant coaches continually leaving the program, players quitting the team, star players getting benched for breaking team rules, the athletic department's lack of any effort to promote the program, the general lack of fan support, etc.), it is increasingly apparent to me that there is an overall lack of real commitment associated with this program. Am I the only one that thinks this way?

Weber doesn't have a large budget. The school can't pay the coaches what they are worth. The only really well renown player to quit is Eastman, and who can blame him, he's going after a dream. Other than the beast, I haven't heard of any other top players to quit, and I've got news for you...players quit all the time, its part of the game. As for Trevyn being benched...that was an excellent decision on Mac's part. It showed that this program has ethics and character. There is a lot more than winning.
As for the other things, you'd have more fan support if you'd have a promotion and marketing. There isn't anything anyone can say to support or defend the marketing depts. inactions. Pathetic is the best word I can come up as a way of describing the marketing. In a sense I do agree with you, but at the same time there are other facets that are negatively affecting the program, and honestly, they are the responsibility of the school.

I agree with much of what you say.

The problem with the coaches leaving is about money. Weber just doesn't have the cash to keep the quality assistants around.

The question I have about Eastman is why he didn't pursue his dream all along, instead of coming to Weber only to quit. If his dream is to play for U of Hawaii, and he must walk-on to do it, why didn't he walk-on after high school, instead of treating Weber like a JC? I know I don't have all the details, but that frustrates me.

As far as Smith being benched goes, I wasn't questioning the decision to bench him, I was questioning Smith's actions, attitude, and desire this year. Let's admit it, he wasn't the same player this year as the previous three.

And we all agree on the marketing and promotions. It sucks, plain and simple.

Anyway, I guess I would just like to see the school and community get behind Mac and the team and offer up some better commitment and effort.

 

[Wildcat 100]

From the posts I've read on the subject of Eastman leaving, it sounds like maybe his heart was never really here to begin with. And if so, why did he even come here if he wasn't fully committed to being here? Maybe it's not fair to accuse him of that, and I hope that that's not the case, but as these types of things continue to happen (assistant coaches continually leaving the program, players quitting the team, star players getting benched for breaking team rules, the athletic department's lack of any effort to promote the program, the general lack of fan support, etc.), it is increasingly apparent to me that there is an overall lack of real commitment associated with this program. Am I the only one that thinks this way?

Weber doesn't have a large budget. The school can't pay the coaches what they are worth. The only really well renown player to quit is Eastman, and who can blame him, he's going after a dream. Other than the beast, I haven't heard of any other top players to quit, and I've got news for you...players quit all the time, its part of the game. As for Trevyn being benched...that was an excellent decision on Mac's part. It showed that this program has ethics and character. There is a lot more than winning.
As for the other things, you'd have more fan support if you'd have a promotion and marketing. There isn't anything anyone can say to support or defend the marketing depts. inactions. Pathetic is the best word I can come up as a way of describing the marketing. In a sense I do agree with you, but at the same time there are other facets that are negatively affecting the program, and honestly, they are the responsibility of the school.

I agree with much of what you say.

The problem with the coaches leaving is about money. Weber just doesn't have the cash to keep the quality assistants around.

The question I have about Eastman is why he didn't pursue his dream all along, instead of coming to Weber only to quit. If his dream is to play for U of Hawaii, and he must walk-on to do it, why didn't he walk-on after high school, instead of treating Weber like a JC? I know I don't have all the details, but that frustrates me.

As far as Smith being benched goes, I wasn't questioning the decision to bench him, I was questioning Smith's actions, attitude, and desire this year. Let's admit it, he wasn't the same player this year as the previous three.

And we all agree on the marketing and promotions. It sucks, plain and simple.

Anyway, I guess I would just like to see the school and community get behind Mac and the team and offer up some better commitment and effort.

i am frustrated too, and i agree with you, you don't have all the details. with that said what some people don't realize is that Eastman was highly recruited by June Jones in Hawaii, and after the Sugar bowl fiasco, it was a domino effect, and the recruiting fell through the cracks. coach chad almost fell over his seat when ryan committed to WSU. in fact, it was chad that tried to woo him to follow him to USU.

what Eastman DID DO at WSU was give you everything he had while he was here, as a true freshman and also as a seasoned sophomore with 2 summers spent training in Ogden. your suspicion of his commitment is unwarranted. the results speak for themselves. there are other issues on the team that should have been handled, but too much transition. what is more frustrating than the obvious, is the fact that the 'mentality' surrounding the football program is that of a JC or worse. Mac does the best he can with what he has; it is the other support systems around him.....just look at the website, the bios aren't even current and that is a joke in itself....and the fans are anemic at best except for the die hards like yourself.

football is a business, plain and simple that is a fact of life. mac's job is to win games, bottom line... and the sooner he gets the support he needs, the sooner that will happen. in fact, if you ask some of the other people who post on this site, they'll tell you that the Eastman's family supported the Purple Pack financially on a few occasions, they also donated equipment to the University for the weight room, sponsored tables at the banquet and donated prizes to the annual Golf tournament every year..... i think it would have been worse if he had stayed during Spring and then just leave in June and not come back.....that would have been easier on their family, but it would have strung WSU along, spent scholarship dollars, and complicated their recruiting a replacement.

when you get all the facts, the picture is quite different. and that's............the rest of the story.

WEBER STATE WEBER STATE, GREAT GREAT GREAT

 

[native]

Mac will be recruiting a kicker, too.

Snoy will graduate and Williams lost his mojo and is leaving the program.

Snoy was fantastic this year, leading the Big Sky in punting and performing well on both kickoffs and place kicks, including a very healthy 64.9 yard average on kickoffs.

2009 Big Sky Conference-Only Stats:

PUNTING G No. Yards Avg/P Ret. Avg. TB Net/P
1. Weber State 8 34 1423 41.9 12 0.4 1 40.9
2. Idaho State 8 55 2418 44.0 270 4.9 3 38.0

KICKOFF COVERAGE G No. Yards Avg. Return TB Net Avg.
1. Idaho State 8 28 1902 67.9 308 14 46.9
2. Portland State 8 38 2497 65.7 703 5 44.6
3. Weber State 8 48 3113 64.9 794 9 44.6

http://www.bigskyconf.com/custompages/football/2009/stats/confonly.htm

Snoy 2009 season stats:

PUNTING No. Yards Avg Long TB FC I20 50+ Blkd
Mike Snoy 50 2075 41.5 66 3 16 17 9 0

http://www.bigskyconf.com/custompages/football/2009/stats/wsu.htm

In 2008, Williams led the Big Sky and finished 10th in the nation in kick scoring with 87 points, was deadly reliable on red zone field goals, and was even better on kickoffs, averaging 67 yards per kick with zero out of bounds KOs and 13 touchbacks on only 41 kicks. His only RZ FG miss was on a blocked kick due to poor blocking on the line.

SCORING TD FGs Kick Rush Rcv Pass DXP Saf Points
---------------------------------------------------------------
Trevyn Smith 28 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0-0 0 0 168
Jon Williams 0 10-13 57-62 0-0 0 0-0 0 0 87
KICKOFFS No. Yds Avg TB OB Retn Net YdLn
--------------------------------------------------------
Jon Williams 41 2747 67.0 13 0

http://www.bigskyconf.com/custompages/football/2008/stats/wsu.htm

 

[smjcpa1]

Native, with Williams leaving the program, I hope that you stay a Wildcat Fan and continue to post on this board. Your comments are well thought out, have a positive tone to them, and you are very knowledgeable about Football. Also, I hope you still take the opportunity to watch Weber games when you can. You are a great fan and we need all of those that we can get!!!

 

[native]

Native, with Williams leaving the program, I hope that you stay a Wildcat Fan and continue to post on this board. Your comments are well thought out, have a positive tone to them, and you are very knowledgeable about Football. Also, I hope you still take the opportunity to watch Weber games when you can. You are a great fan and we need all of those that we can get!!!

I love Mac, and Weber is a good program with great fans. I will always be a Wildcat fan!

 

[native]

This actually might be a good thing that Eastman is leaving. We have two true freshman d-tackles that started last year and did decent, and they will only improve with hard work. Also Gabe Bowers has played almost every position on the d-line and is a very tough player so he could help out at the tackle spot. There is also a lot of young talent that they brought in last year so the d-line might not be as bad as you might think. The good news for Eastman is that he has to sit out a year if he transfers, and he has been plagued with injuries throughout his short career so he will have plenty of time to heal and get healthy. So you might look at this as a good thing for both parties.

I really like the Bowers kid and think he has a very bright future.

It is important to see the glass as half full, but we will miss the Beast! I wish him and his family the best.

 

[jmtrac5]

New WSU recruit set for official visit highlight link below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S25FNDeHl5Y

 

[n.ogdencat]

New WSU recruit set for official visit highlight link below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S25FNDeHl5Y

Very impressive. I hope he likes Ogden and Weber State. Mac is a stud. Great coach with a lot of experience and knowledge.

 

[n.ogdencat]

I've been a huge fan of the Eastman's. I'm going to miss the beast. He is a hell of a football player. I appreciate the service and support the Eastman family has given to the university, I just wish we had more like them. I hope the Eastman's continue to be supporters of Weber State athletics even though their son has left the school.

As for the university. I think we have an AD who is committed to changing the perception of Weber State. He is committed to improving the department and our athletic programs. Unfortunately, he is virtually alone in his task. I hate to say it, but he needs to get rid of some of the people working in the stadium. There is no passion, excitment, or determination up there. The final straw, with regard to our marketing, happen to me today. I'm driving in Ogden and I saw a full spread UTAH UTE basketball advertisement on a bus. The bus was a local route bus. I know that the Utes have the right to advertise anywhere, what bugs me is that they would never do such a thing in Logan or Provo, so why do they think they can do it in Wildcat country. Because nobody cares, and they know they can get fans up here. Why? Because our department refuses to. Our marketing, public relations, and information (Dee DJ is pretty bad too) are worse than poor. Heavens' even the WCC is a shell of its former self. Great...its making money now, but what will it do in the future when the current supporters are all gone and haven't been replaced because the professionals on campus are to lazy and incompetent to do their work. Does the administration have any idea who the next boosters, sponsors, supporters, and lifetime fans are?? NO... They only see the student body as $$$ not as potential investors and donors. Treat them like they matter. Make the community feel like they are a part of the school, and dangit make wildcat country actually a community that bleeds purple. It will take a hurculaneian effort, but it is possible and it has to happen. Weber cannot languish where it is at now. The athletic department could be a huge money maker for the rest of the university and it should be. Nobody in the sky has better facilities than Weber, better students, and has the potential that Weber does (Missoula is too small and has peaked sorry UM fans most of you drive across the state to watch the game that tells me you have peaked). If the Weber State community would just care more about what they are doing then the department would get stronger each year, but they dont all they care about is the check they get. Time for change...

 

[Wildcat 100]

This actually might be a good thing that Eastman is leaving. We have two true freshman d-tackles that started last year and did decent, and they will only improve with hard work. Also Gabe Bowers has played almost every position on the d-line and is a very tough player so he could help out at the tackle spot. There is also a lot of young talent that they brought in last year so the d-line might not be as bad as you might think. The good news for Eastman is that he has to sit out a year if he transfers, and he has been plagued with injuries throughout his short career so he will have plenty of time to heal and get healthy. So you might look at this as a good thing for both parties.

I really like the Bowers kid and think he has a very bright future.

It is important to see the glass as half full, but we will miss the Beast! I wish him and his family the best.

The Defense is going to be fine, some of them have to step up, train like maniacs, and study film and their assignments.....preparation is key. Eastman will recover from his nagging injuries, MCL strains on both knees direct results from illegal chop blocks at CSU and Montana games. there are some very feisty linemen in the trenches, and their fighting spirit will emerge as the season nears.

We back Mac......always did and always will!

 

[native]

This actually might be a good thing that Eastman is leaving. We have two true freshman d-tackles that started last year and did decent, and they will only improve with hard work. Also Gabe Bowers has played almost every position on the d-line and is a very tough player so he could help out at the tackle spot. There is also a lot of young talent that they brought in last year so the d-line might not be as bad as you might think. The good news for Eastman is that he has to sit out a year if he transfers, and he has been plagued with injuries throughout his short career so he will have plenty of time to heal and get healthy. So you might look at this as a good thing for both parties.

I really like the Bowers kid and think he has a very bright future.

It is important to see the glass as half full, but we will miss the Beast! I wish him and his family the best.

The Defense is going to be fine, some of them have to step up, train like maniacs, and study film and their assignments.....preparation is key. Eastman will recover from his nagging injuries, MCL strains on both knees direct results from illegal chop blocks at CSU and Montana games. there are some very feisty linemen in the trenches, and their fighting spirit will emerge as the season nears.

We back Mac......always did and always will!

Points well taken, but if Weber is to be a championship team, the Wildcat defense must step up and go beyond "fine" to be FEARED by opposing offenses!

 

[Wildcat 100]

This actually might be a good thing that Eastman is leaving. We have two true freshman d-tackles that started last year and did decent, and they will only improve with hard work. Also Gabe Bowers has played almost every position on the d-line and is a very tough player so he could help out at the tackle spot. There is also a lot of young talent that they brought in last year so the d-line might not be as bad as you might think. The good news for Eastman is that he has to sit out a year if he transfers, and he has been plagued with injuries throughout his short career so he will have plenty of time to heal and get healthy. So you might look at this as a good thing for both parties.

I really like the Bowers kid and think he has a very bright future.

It is important to see the glass as half full, but we will miss the Beast! I wish him and his family the best.

The Defense is going to be fine, some of them have to step up, train like maniacs, and study film and their assignments.....preparation is key. Eastman will recover from his nagging injuries, MCL strains on both knees direct results from illegal chop blocks at CSU and Montana games. there are some very feisty linemen in the trenches, and their fighting spirit will emerge as the season nears.

We back Mac......always did and always will!

Points well taken, but if Weber is to be a championship team, the Wildcat defense must step up and go beyond "fine" to be FEARED by opposing offenses!

Actually, you are right....FEAR....that emotion that grips you in your shorts....ironically, if you followed the D line, you'd notice The Beast attracting a constant double and often triple team from the O line.....at that juncture, someone should be making a sack or a big play.

Montana game, The Beast lines up on the edge as a DE, the QB under center points to #95 and audibles the play... they run away from The Beast....to the short side of the field and still get 10+ yards....and they did it more than 6 times.....now THAT would be frustrating for anyone.....and eventually they take out The Beast with a chop to his left knee, and Reynolds runs for over 190+ yds in the 2nd half...after being held to less than 50 yds in the 1st half.

FEAR is something created by physical domination....and this is Football......you have to beat your man in front of you so that he doubts his abilities to play the game.......

FEAR is a wonderful tool............I totally agree :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

[fatcat]

First time here, but I live next to a Boise State recruiter and thought you may want to here this recruiting information. It's amazing how everyone knows what players are out there. First, Like Boise State who has only six, Weber only has three and 1/2 Scholships in football. Two are taken already because of Hinds R/b Davis HS and 6'5" Okl. Lineman Center "Land".. A kicker from Arizona makes visit this weekend and will Commit.. and a C/B from park city made visit last weekend. Lineman from COLORADO 6'7" 280 may be coming also. The reason for lack of scholarships are return missionary's, 12 of them.. Go Wildcats..

 

[Wildcat 4Ever]

First time here, but I live next to a Boise State recruiter and thought you may want to here this recruiting information. It's amazing how everyone knows what players are out there. First, Like Boise State who has only six, Weber only has three and 1/2 Scholships in football. Two are taken already because of Hinds R/b Davis HS and 6'5" Okl. Lineman Center "Land".. A kicker from Arizona makes visit this weekend and will Commit.. and a C/B from park city made visit last weekend. Lineman from COLORADO 6'7" 280 may be coming also. The reason for lack of scholarships are return missionary's, 12 of them.. Go Wildcats..

now THAT is interesting to know.............wow, does anyone know what positions are coming back from missions?

 

[hotshot]

I know they have already offered an offensive lineman from Pocatello's Highland. (Shelton Robinson) I think he is trippin this week.

 

[fatcat]

my thinking now is the coaching staff are getting lds players that could be leaving on missions, and preferred walk ons with the hope of players quiting and grey shirts signing to get a scholarship in January for our numbers to get up to about 20 -24. And like last year when a couple of Hawaii kids in 2010 January now are here for spring ball and are freshmen not juco's so schooling will be paid for. Coach Mcbride is famous for his Linemen Defence and offense, we were thin last year..we'are heavy at linebacker, three deep at D/end and Safety and at the corners, great athletics. THE oklahoma and Idaho connection is working out and we should look again to Colorado, lots of players. Utah State seems to be getting alot of players we use to get in Utah. Still, we get a few that are gamers. Go WILDCATS

 

[Wildcat 100]

my thinking now is the coaching staff are getting lds players that could be leaving on missions, and preferred walk ons with the hope of players quiting and grey shirts signing to get a scholarship in January for our numbers to get up to about 20 -24. And like last year when a couple of Hawaii kids in 2010 January now are here for spring ball and are freshmen not juco's so schooling will be paid for. Coach Mcbride is famous for his Linemen Defence and offense, we were thin last year..we'are heavy at linebacker, three deep at D/end and Safety and at the corners, great athletics. THE oklahoma and Idaho connection is working out and we should look again to Colorado, lots of players. Utah State seems to be getting alot of players we use to get in Utah. Still, we get a few that are gamers. Go WILDCATS

IT'LL ALL WORK OUT

WEBER STATE WEBER STATE GREAT GREAT GREAT

 

[talhadfoursteals]

Any recent news? I heard that there were 13 athletes on visits this week. I did hear from a source that Weber got 10 of their top 11. Is this true?

 

[n.ogdencat]

The Deseret News said that Cash Knight (Park City High) has verballed to Weber. He is a 6-3 275 DL/OL.

 

[SWeberCat02]

The Deseret News said that Cash Knight (Park City High) has verballed to Weber. He is a 6-3 275 DL/OL.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705359135/Park-City-lineman-Knight-opts-to-play-for-Weber-State.html