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Athletic Facilities

SDHornet said:
Yes, as I've posted elsewhere tariffs increased the costs of steel roughly 50%. The tariffs were increased AFTER the new stadium announcement a year ago. Pay more for the same size stadium or reduce the size of the stadium are the options at hand.

And no, tariffs don't make nationally sourced materials more affordable. It makes companies of nationally sourced materials more competitive with companies that import materials while also impacting the supply and demand of available materials. Anyone in the construction space (especially at the onset of the tariffs) knows the impacts of what tariffs have had on budgets and material availability.
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Many items have NOT seen much impact from tariffs. However cheap POT metal style “steel” Ala the old Bay Bridge Rusted out / Aloha Stadium Rusted out as well.
We don’t want that garbage. Yes concrete w rebar much more durable for 50 yrs. And build it w upgradability to 40K seating to add upper deck or whatever.
You get what you pay for in quality materials.

 
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Looks like SLO’s gym built in…….1959.
 
Look forward to seeing it in person. They have been selling beer at the Nest the last couple of years. Parking was free at the Nest but have not heard if that is the same for the Pavilion. Wonder if they sold many of the $1410 court side season tickets. Hoping more students show up and that we do not need to bus them in from Turlock or Chico. Disappointing that we only have one D1 game at home, UCSB, before conference play in January. Presbyterian might be D1, but they are ranked 280th. Of course we are ranked 271so let’s hope we can win that one. For reference Kenpom ranked New Orleans 297 and we lost to them in the exhibition game.
 
The Pavilion will look good on cameras, and I had a buddy walk around it last week and the photos he sent makes this look like a legitimate venue. There will be good crowds initially with the hype of Bibby and the new venue. Winning will be able to keep some of the initial interest but we'll see how it plays out.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm concerned about all the ancillary needs like bathrooms, concessions, locker rooms, etc. This was a rec center that was converted into a performance venue and it wasn't designed as such. It will look good on camera but I have my doubts as to whether the other fan and team amenities will outweigh the camera optics. Regardless, I'll be there when this place formally opens.
 
Current Hornet Stadium site is plenty big for a 25k capacity stadium. Land is not our problem.

Attended the WBB opener at Hornet Pavilion last night. Very nice inside, the wait was worth it. Lots of concessions all over the place and peddlers going up and down the aisles to sell typical items. A significant step up in comfort and amenities that should hold Hornet athletics over for a decade until a real event center can be built. There are some issues with the logistics of other amenities that will be an issue, but nothing unforeseen given the fact a venue was shoe-horned into a rec center.
 
SDHornet said:
Current Hornet Stadium site is plenty big for a 25k capacity stadium. Land is not our problem.

Attended the WBB opener at Hornet Pavilion last night. Very nice inside, the wait was worth it. Lots of concessions all over the place and peddlers going up and down the aisles to sell typical items. A significant step up in comfort and amenities that should hold Hornet athletics over for a decade until a real event center can be built. There are some issues with the logistics of other amenities that will be an issue, but nothing unforeseen given the fact a venue was shoe-horned into a rec center.
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Yeah, I watched the womens game. Only issue is media camera view gets partially blocked by the mobile vendor selling cotton candy going up and down the isles. Also, would have been nice to have chairbacks.
 
StockonLB said:
just got an Instagram ad:


If this was on campus I think everyone would be happy, even if it’s not the 30k-35k stadium pushed at first.

I think campus leadership pushing for SDSU style stadium was a reach. SDSU got the land, already zoned for larger stadium, and partnered with other tenants.

I hope we hear progress from leadership soon.
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Not even going to watch this as it will get my blood boiling as to why this cant be done on campus.

With all the competition in this city, there will never be a consistent need for a 40,000 seat stadium.

"legends will be made that will last forever"? Hardly.
 
SDHornet said:
Current Hornet Stadium site is plenty big for a 25k capacity stadium. Land is not our problem.

Attended the WBB opener at Hornet Pavilion last night. Very nice inside, the wait was worth it. Lots of concessions all over the place and peddlers going up and down the aisles to sell typical items. A significant step up in comfort and amenities that should hold Hornet athletics over for a decade until a real event center can be built. There are some issues with the logistics of other amenities that will be an issue, but nothing unforeseen given the fact a venue was shoe-horned into a rec center.
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I agree that the facility looks 1000x better on TV than The Nest. I agree they need to tweak the angle a little bit to mitigate standing fans/concessionaires from blocking the court view. I think if they go a little higher and zoom in a bit, it will mitigate that, and eliminate the "empty edges" of the baselines for an even better look.

My wife was casually watching the game last night and said the open feel and just "looks nice" of the new venue would make her more inclined to go to a game.

@SDHornet - how was the entrance, restroom situation, logistics?
 
StockonLB said:
just got an Instagram ad:


If this was on campus I think everyone would be happy, even if it’s not the 30k-35k stadium pushed at first.

I think campus leadership pushing for SDSU style stadium was a reach. SDSU got the land, already zoned for larger stadium, and partnered with other tenants.

I hope we hear progress from leadership soon.
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Too bad we couldn't change the republic colors to green and gold and come to a public/private partnership on this. I still want to be confident in doing our own thing - but, the Sac Republic progress can't help but water down interest/money/etc. available to any SAC effort at CE or on campus...
 
StockonLB said:
just got an Instagram ad:


If this was on campus I think everyone would be happy, even if it’s not the 30k-35k stadium pushed at first.

I think campus leadership pushing for SDSU style stadium was a reach. SDSU got the land, already zoned for larger stadium, and partnered with other tenants.

I hope we hear progress from leadership soon.
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Last I heard/read was that bids are due in December for the stadium. Haven't seen anything changing that timeline.

I'd rather wait for something concrete than have the school give an update just to address people's doubts.

Now is a good time for the admin to turn the attention to Shaq and Basketball and Hornet Pavillion.
 
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SDSU having a lights out season cant draw fans.

Makes you wonder, Sac having pro soccer, soon to be MLB, NBA, HS football all drawing fans and $$'s, how does Wood and Sac State think they can draw 40,000 to a football game.

Look in the mirror and keep it on campus at 22-24,000.
 
Green Cookie Monster said:
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SDSU having a lights out season cant draw fans.

Makes you wonder, Sac having pro soccer, soon to be MLB, NBA, HS football all drawing fans and $$'s, how does Wood and Sac State think they can draw 40,000 to a football game.

Look in the mirror and keep it on campus at 22-24,000.
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Future MLB is not guaranteed and plays during the summer mostly. They aren't saying they need 40k seats now they want to be able to expand to that is need be down the line. Playing off campus is fine if money is coming from CE to help get something viable done. If they don't have the funds for road infrastructure plus the build out of a new stadium on campus then this is the best option. I mean really 3 miles off campus is really nothing. Yes, we all would rather have a on campus stadium but you have to take what you can get when you need a upgrade badly and don't have deep pockets to go at it alone.

Looking at who San Diego State has played at home I personally think the attendance for them is right on par for how they have always drawn.

Stony Brook ---20624
Cal- 31369
Colorado State 29019
and Wyoming 24325

I mean if Sac State could get Cal to play here in the future you don't thing they could get 35-40K? Berkley is 80 miles away. If Sac State were FBS and could play California schools that people know I Believe they would draw at the least similar to San Diego State.
 
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I think 25k is plenty, here is thread with announced attendance numbers for FBS, scroll to bottom for most recent updates.

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College Football Attendance Report (2025)

College Football Attendance Report (2025)
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People are just as entertained in front of a six inch screen as they are going to events. I don’t think that’s healthy, but it’s a reality for a lot of young people.

SJSU isnt even drawing 15k. SDSU is doing okay. WKU stadium is 22k and seems visually the right size to me for now.

THROUGH WEEK 10

AVERAGE
80,232 – SEC
64,674 – Big Ten
48,677 – Big 12
46,821 – ACC
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25,281 – American
25,042 – MWC
22,449 – Sun Belt
15,520 – MAC
14,052 – CUSA

BIG 12
26. BYU (4) – 64,474
27. Iowa State (5) – 61,380
28. Texas Tech (5) – 60,108
35. West Virginia (4) – 56,819
37. Arizona State (5) – 54,594
38. Kansas State (5) – 52,218
40. Utah (5) – 51,753
41. Colorado (6) – 51,656
49. Oklahoma State (5) – 46,236
51. TCU (4) – 44,614
52. UCF (5) – 43,586
54. Arizona (5) – 42,231
55. Baylor (5) – 40,644
56. Kansas (6) – 40,589
63. Cincinnati (5) – 35,446
70. Houston (5) – 32,488

ACC
15. Clemson (5) – 78,819
24. Florida State (6) – 66,032
25. Miami (6) – 65,197
30. Virginia Tech (6) – 58,998
34. NC State (4) – 56,919
43. North Carolina (4) – 50,500
44. Louisville (5) – 49,817
45. Pittsburgh (5) – 48,934
47. Georgia Tech (5) – 46,750
50. Virginia (5) – 45,407
53. Boston College (5) – 42,281
58. Syracuse (5) – 39,834
61. California (5) – 36,198
68. SMU (5) – 33,696
75. Wake Forest (5) – 29,339
87. Duke (4) – 24,360
94. Stanford (4) – 22,882

BIG TEN
1. Michigan (5) – 110,735
2. Penn State (5) – 107,877
4. Ohio State (5) – 104,909
12. Nebraska (6) – 86,573
17. Michigan State (5) – 72,132
18. Wisconsin (5) – 70,745
19. Iowa (5) – 69,250
21. USC (4) – 68,117
22. Washington (5) – 67,612
29. Illinois (5) – 59,744
32. Oregon (5) – 58,332
36. Purdue (5) – 55,712
42. Indiana (6) – 50,542
46. Rutgers (5) – 48,594
48. Minnesota (6) – 46,600
57. Maryland (6) – 39,862
64. UCLA (4) – 35,253
129. Northwestern (5) – 11,548

SEC
3. Texas A&M (5) – 105,931
5. Texas (4) – 102,052
6. LSU (5) – 101,978
7. Tennessee (5) – 101,915
8. Alabama (4) – 100,077
9. Georgia (5) – 93,033
10. Florida (4) – 90,069
11. Auburn (5) – 88,043
13. Oklahoma (5) – 83,490
14. South Carolina (5) – 79,412
20. Arkansas (6) – 68,548
23. Mississippi (6) – 66,452
31. Kentucky (5) – 58,876
33. Missouri (6) – 57,321
39. Mississippi State (5) – 51,773
65. Vanderbilt (5) – 34,738

AMERICAN
60. East Carolina (4) – 36,534
62. South Florida (4) – 35,729
71. Navy (5) – 31,381
72. Memphis (4) – 30,779
80. Army (3) – 27,550
82. UTSA (4) – 26,243
86. North Texas (6) – 24,494
90. Rice (5) – 23,339
92. Tulane (4) – 23,041
100. UAB (4) – 21,411
104. Florida Atlantic (3) – 19,605
108. Temple (5) – 18,406
111. Charlotte (6) – 17,879
112. Tulsa (4) – 17,539

CUSA
102. Liberty (4) – 19,782
103. Jacksonville State (3) – 19,688
113. Delaware (4) – 17,259
115. UTEP (4) – 17,173
119. Florida International (4) – 14,878
120. Western Kentucky (5) – 14,417
121. Louisiana Tech (5) – 14,397
124. Middle Tennessee (4) – 13,420
126. Missouri State (4) – 12,081
130. Kennesaw State (5) – 10,684
134. New Mexico State (4) – 9,544
136. Sam Houston State (3) – 5,304

MAC
95. Ohio (4) – 22,843
96. Central Michigan (3) – 22,627
97. Toledo (4) – 22,484
99. Western Michigan (5) – 20,063
101. Bowling Green (5) – 20,294
117. Eastern Michigan (4) – 16,336
122. Buffalo (5) – 14,063
127. Northern Illinois (4) – 12,008
128. Miami, OH (4) – 11,997
131. Ball State (3) – 10,396
132. Kent State (4) – 10,316
133. Massachusetts (4) – 10,133
135. Akron (4) – 8,206

MWC
59. Fresno State (4) – 38,888
67. Colorado State (5) – 33,892
69. Boise State (5) – 32,905
73. UNLV (4) – 30,186
79. Air Force (5) – 27,954
81. San Diego State (4) – 26,334
89. New Mexico (4) – 23,352
93. Wyoming (5) – 22,990
107. Nevada (4) – 18,711
110. Utah State (4) – 18,139
123. San Jose State (4) – 14,038
125. Hawaii (5) – 13,114

SUN BELT
66. Appalachian State (3) – 34,601
76. Southern Miss (5) – 28,435
83. Marshall (4) – 25,884
84. James Madison (4) – 25,089
85. Troy (5) – 24,815
88. Texas State (4) – 23,579
91. Georgia Southern (4) – 23,316
98. Louisiana (4) – 22,348
105. Coastal Carolina (4) – 19,024
106. Old Dominion (4) – 18,885
109. Arkansas State (4) – 18,193
114. South Alabama (5) – 17,207
116. Louisiana-Monroe (4) – 16,889
118. Georgia State (5) – 16,026

INDEPENDENTS
16. Notre Dame (5) – 77,622
74. Oregon State (6) – 29,898
77. Washington State (4) – 28,293
78. Connecticut (4) – 28,275
 
Kadeezy said:
I agree that the facility looks 1000x better on TV than The Nest. I agree they need to tweak the angle a little bit to mitigate standing fans/concessionaires from blocking the court view. I think if they go a little higher and zoom in a bit, it will mitigate that, and eliminate the "empty edges" of the baselines for an even better look.

My wife was casually watching the game last night and said the open feel and just "looks nice" of the new venue would make her more inclined to go to a game.

@SDHornet - how was the entrance, restroom situation, logistics?
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Entrance is fine. Inside concessions are nice given that the simple stuff is available everywhere (even in your seat). All other amenities are as expected: very underwhelming.
 
StockonLB said:
I think 25k is plenty, here is thread with announced attendance numbers for FBS, scroll to bottom for most recent updates.

247sports.com

College Football Attendance Report (2025)

College Football Attendance Report (2025)
247sports.com 247sports.com

People are just as entertained in front of a six inch screen as they are going to events. I don’t think that’s healthy, but it’s a reality for a lot of young people.

SJSU isnt even drawing 15k. SDSU is doing okay. WKU stadium is 22k and seems visually the right size to me for now.

THROUGH WEEK 10

AVERAGE
80,232 – SEC
64,674 – Big Ten
48,677 – Big 12
46,821 – ACC
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25,281 – American
25,042 – MWC
22,449 – Sun Belt
15,520 – MAC
14,052 – CUSA
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Good post. College football just isn't drawing big numbers outside of the big boy conferences, and even then teams are having issues. A ranked Houston's home attendance for their home game against West Virginia was so bad that it went viral. Even across the causeway a top ranked FCS program had a mostly empty stadium during their upset loss to Idaho State.

A new stadium with 25k capacity would be more than sufficient for low tier FBS games. I can only see a large capacity needed to get bigger names on the schedule. Outside of those big name opponents possibly coming to town, I don't see this city filling a 40k capacity stadium at all to see Hornet football.
 
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