BSC Tournament?

[josephpoint]

there is a good article about this on the Idaho State fan forum. Have not figured out how to cut and paste links here if someone might be able to do that.

 

[Kadeezy]

http://m.mtstandard.com/sports/college/big-sky-conference/montana-state-university/billings-rimrock-auto-arena-chasing-big-sky-conference-tournament/article_dc3ab2ca-f199-59d8-bba3-165820460ca8.html?mobile_touch=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[SDHornet]

bigskybball.com: http://www.bigskybball.com/2015/01/billings-among-seven-bids-for-big-sky.html

I like the Reno idea as well as the idea of having both men and women's tournaments at the same place. I hate the idea of all 12 getting an auto-bid. I would prefer to keep it as is if the Reno option doesn't win out. :twocents:

 

[Green Laser]

bigskybball.com: http://www.bigskybball.com/2015/01/billings-among-seven-bids-for-big-sky.html

I like the Reno idea as well as the idea of having both men and women's tournaments at the same place. I hate the idea of all 12 getting an auto-bid. I would prefer to keep it as is if the Reno option doesn't win out. :twocents:

I certainly favor Reno over Billings as a neutral site. At least there is something else to do in Reno.
All things considered I'd prefer to see our Olympic Sports in the Big West.

 

[josephpoint]

Would indeed be great some day to see the Olympic sports in the Big West. Seems so crazy for our tennis and other teams traveling to Grand Forks, North Dakota for a conference match up....not to mention all the other in these remote out of state locations. Seems crazy. Especially since we could bus to all the Big West schools except for Hawaii. And all the other schools in the Big West being CA schools. A perfect match.

And Sac State is so unique from all Big Sky schools sponsoring 19 teams, when most others sponsor the minimum of 12 or 13 teams.

Know this has been talked about many times before and know it is not likely to happen any time soon but just nice to dream about what seems so realistic.

 

[josephpoint]

Just looked at the Sac Bee on line.

A story about the Hornets hosting the Big Sky tourney.

A ballroom in North Highlands is possible. Teh Stockton arena is possible and that is it at this point in terms of the article. Hornet Gym is out.

And if Sac State wins the Big Sky and cannot find a bigger facility to host the 2nd place team gets to host.

it this about as sad as it gets

Hornet Gym cannot accommodate ESPN cameras and now apparently has a capacity of 1,102. What happen to 1,200 capacity. Remember when Hornet Gym held 2,000 capacity before the old bleachers were all ripped out for the chair backs . Remember a game in 1988 against Sonoma State when 2,400 were stuffed into the gym I was there. They brought the baseball bleachers at the time into Hornet Gym and built them up in back of the west basket. The 60 year old gym continues to shrink.

So, so sad.

Hope something is figured out and hope once and for all something is done about getting a new facility. This is ridiculous and beyond the decades of apathy about a need for something that is strikingly obvious. Hornet Gym became outdated a couple days after it was built 60 yeas ago.

On a brighter note, if our first place Hornet women win the Big Sky regular season Hornet Gym is apparently good enough according to the Bee article and we can host on campus.

 

[SDHornet]

bigskybball.com: http://www.bigskybball.com/2015/01/billings-among-seven-bids-for-big-sky.html

I like the Reno idea as well as the idea of having both men and women's tournaments at the same place. I hate the idea of all 12 getting an auto-bid. I would prefer to keep it as is if the Reno option doesn't win out. :twocents:

I certainly favor Reno over Billings as a neutral site. At least there is something else to do in Reno.
All things considered I'd prefer to see our Olympic Sports in the Big West.

I would no longer care about Oly sports at that point because it would mean we no longer have football.

 

[SDHornet]

Just looked at the Sac Bee on line.

A story about the Hornets hosting the Big Sky tourney.

A ballroom in North Highlands is possible. Teh Stockton arena is possible and that is it at this point in terms of the article. Hornet Gym is out.

And if Sac State wins the Big Sky and cannot find a bigger facility to host the 2nd place team gets to host.

it this about as sad as it gets

Hornet Gym cannot accommodate ESPN cameras and now apparently has a capacity of 1,102. What happen to 1,200 capacity. Remember when Hornet Gym held 2,000 capacity before the old bleachers were all ripped out for the chair backs . Remember a game in 1988 against Sonoma State when 2,400 were stuffed into the gym I was there. They brought the baseball bleachers at the time into Hornet Gym and built them up in back of the west basket. The 60 year old gym continues to shrink.

So, so sad.

Hope something is figured out and hope once and for all something is done about getting a new facility. This is ridiculous and beyond the decades of apathy about a need for something that is strikingly obvious. Hornet Gym became outdated a couple days after it was built 60 yeas ago.

On a brighter note, if our first place Hornet women win the Big Sky regular season Hornet Gym is apparently good enough according to the Bee article and we can host on campus.

Meh. Not worried about hosting the BSCT. 1) we need to hang on and actually win it. There are still a lot of games left to go with some very shoddy reffing. 2) A location will be found somewhere; I’m not really worried about it. A local JC, a neighborhood park, random building somewhere in Sac modified to seat a few thousand people; some place will be found. 3) I don’t feel bad about this because Gonzo had a chance to enact the student fee last spring following the alternative consultation. IMO this problem is on him; the students did their part and passed a referendum in 2004.

 

[josephpoint]

Agree SD.

Long way to go and excited about this team.

Best of luck tomorrow against MSU in Hornet Gym (South Gym in my day)
I worked at the Hornet's Nest in my time and it was the burger place in the student union.

Go Hornets.

Sac State Pride.

 

[Green Laser]

bigskybball.com: http://www.bigskybball.com/2015/01/billings-among-seven-bids-for-big-sky.html

I like the Reno idea as well as the idea of having both men and women's tournaments at the same place. I hate the idea of all 12 getting an auto-bid. I would prefer to keep it as is if the Reno option doesn't win out. :twocents:

I certainly favor Reno over Billings as a neutral site. At least there is something else to do in Reno.
All things considered I'd prefer to see our Olympic Sports in the Big West.

I would no longer care about Oly sports at that point because it would mean we no longer have football.

Does that mean that the dungpile and Poly don't have football? Does it mean that Idaho must commit their football team? Why are we the only ones playing by different rules? The BSC make zero sense for us aside from football. We have nothing in common with these schools from the frozen wasteland. They are as irrelevant in California as we are in Grand Forks. Whoever the new AD turns out to be should make this a priority. Regardless of how good our basketball teams turn out to be we will never be able to draw the interest and crowds that we could by playing our fellow California schools. Once the long standing "all or nothing" membership requirements were thrown out by admitting the dungpile and Poly for football and Idaho for the Olympic sports we should be able to ask for a similar deal. After all be have been paying our BSC dues since 1996.

 

[josephpoint]

Agree Green Lazer.

I agreed with Olympic Sports being let go and moved to the Big West but understood that this also means basketball.

Sac State football at the FCS level remaining in the Big Sky and all other sports released from the Big Sky to move to the Big West if they would take us would be great. And any other sport needing a conference to land in that works for us would be great.

Think perhaps that this would be acceptable for most of us Hornet fans. And from reading the fan forums of the Big Sky for years and years they would be happy to see us go away. We are a joke to them for the most point from what I have seen and read. And agree they have nothing in common with us and we have nothing in common with them. But the schools in the Big West is a much different story. Everything in common with them.

And agree with the new AD and President stepping up and investigating this change. The Big Sky would still have a presence in football in the CA market and the Big West would get the only state university in Northern CA and a state university to join with 4 fellow Southern CA state schools. . And Davis would have a travel partner. Makes so much sense. Baffling why this has not happened.

In the 68 year history of Sac State sports there has been conference changes. There has been divisional changes. This is not impossible. It has been done in the past and can happen in the future.

And know that this has been talked about many, many times in the past and that's OK. It needs to continue to be talked about. Any big change needs to continue to be talked about.

 

[SDHornet]

bigskybball.com: http://www.bigskybball.com/2015/01/billings-among-seven-bids-for-big-sky.html

I like the Reno idea as well as the idea of having both men and women's tournaments at the same place. I hate the idea of all 12 getting an auto-bid. I would prefer to keep it as is if the Reno option doesn't win out. :twocents:

I certainly favor Reno over Billings as a neutral site. At least there is something else to do in Reno.
All things considered I'd prefer to see our Olympic Sports in the Big West.

I would no longer care about Oly sports at that point because it would mean we no longer have football.

Does that mean that the dungpile and Poly don't have football? Does it mean that Idaho must commit their football team? Why are we the only ones playing by different rules? The BSC make zero sense for us aside from football. We have nothing in common with these schools from the frozen wasteland. They are as irrelevant in California as we are in Grand Forks. Whoever the new AD turns out to be should make this a priority. Regardless of how good our basketball teams turn out to be we will never be able to draw the interest and crowds that we could by playing our fellow California schools. Once the long standing "all or nothing" membership requirements were thrown out by admitting the dungpile and Poly for football and Idaho for the Olympic sports we should be able to ask for a similar deal. After all be have been paying our BSC dues since 1996.

I agree and that is my point. I wouldn’t be opposed to the new President and AD pushing to get our Oly’s out of the BSC and into BW (or WAC) but I don’t see any leverage we have as that move would probably cost us our home for FB. Maybe if men’s hoops holds on to win the BSC, then the embarrassment upon the BSC from the BSCT being hosted at a Sac area warehouse will cause them to "kick us out". :lol:

 

[SJHornet]

I happened to turn on sports talk radio on the way home from work today, and the Rise Guys were talking about Sac's tourney predicament. They were saying how this issue spoke a lot about the university and its alumni, and how embarrassing the whole situation looked. Also spoke to how the university placates to football, and the other sports are essentially unimportant and non-relevant. I would have been upset or offended, but it's true. The fact we have the Nest to call home and are potentially unable to host the tournament because basketball is not given much thought is truly sad and embarrassing. Don't want to start this topic again, but I think we should look at something along the lines of the Kaiser Permanente Area in Santa Cruz. It would be another temporary solution turned permanent, but at least we'd have some size and not be embarrassed to call ourselves a basketball DI institution.

 

[SDHornet]

I happened to turn on sports talk radio on the way home from work today, and the Rise Guys were talking about Sac's tourney predicament. They were saying how this issue spoke a lot about the university and its alumni, and how embarrassing the whole situation looked. Also spoke to how the university placates to football, and the other sports are essentially unimportant and non-relevant. I would have been upset or offended, but it's true. The fact we have the Nest to call home and are potentially unable to host the tournament because basketball is not given much thought is truly sad and embarrassing. Don't want to start this topic again, but I think we should look at something along the lines of the Kaiser Permanente Area in Santa Cruz. It would be another temporary solution turned permanent, but at least we'd have some size and not be embarrassed to call ourselves a basketball DI institution.

It's more of an inability of admin to raise funds for facilities. Students did their part in 2004 and Gonzo couldn't follow up with his part. I don't blame the alumni either because there has been no public plan to raise funds for facilities so there is no telling how Hornet alumni would embrace/ignore a significant effort to improve facilities. To date the only plan by Hornet admin is to sit back and hope a whale donor shows up and gets things done...and that just ain't gonna cut it.

I hope the next President has serious and meaningful experience/background in fund raising...or that he/she hires an AD that does.

 

[sacstateman]

I just heard on channel 13 that the Big Sky officials were looking at 3 possible sites for the tournament:
1. Delta College in Stockton
2. Reno Events Center
3. McClellan Park

After looking, the officials said the Reno Events Center would be the best site available.

 

[SDHornet]

I just heard on channel 13 that the Big Sky officials were looking at 3 possible sites for the tournament:
1. Delta College in Stockton
2. Reno Events Center
3. McClellan Park

After looking, the officials said the Reno Events Center would be the best site available.

Link to report? If we beat EWU and hang onto to 1st and the BSCT is not held in the Sac area, then there is just no reason to care about Hornet hoops.

 

[superhornet]

If you're going to Stockton, why Delta? May as well go to Sac City, AR, or CR. There are only two feasible options in Stockton, and neither are Delta. You either go to Spanos Center or to Stockton Arena. While normally a facility for hockey, it DOES have the capability of hosting hoops, as UOP moved a game vs. Cal there a few years back. There's an on-site parking facility, plus nearby hotels and neighborhood parking as well.

Not that I'm recommending that. Sleep Train would be better if the league could coordinate schedules with the Kings. But PLEASE don't go to Delta if you go to Stockton. Delta's gym is hardly better than The Nest....

 

[SDHornet]

Sac Bee article claiming Reno is the place if we hang on:

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/college/mens-basketball/article9700892.html

“At this point, unless something comes up between now and then ... Reno is the one in play,” Big Sky Senior Associate Deputy Commissioner Ron Loghry said Tuesday.

Sophia said Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson has gotten involved in the search for an alternative, and university officials said they’re anxious to keep the tournament in the area.

“We’re going to try to find a solution that works locally,” said Bill Macriss, interim athletic director at CSUS . “That’s the best option for our student-athletes ... and our fans.”

The final outcome could depend on the Hornets’ on-court performance; if the Hornets don’t win the regular season title, the tournament automatically goes elsewhere and the issue becomes moot. But even though the team has seven games left, and the regular season doesn’t end until March 7, the clock is winding down quickly on CSUS . Loghry said Big Sky officials need to know within 10 days or so which venue the university has designated for hosting the tournament.

“We’re trying to give them as much leeway as possible,” Loghry said. If the Hornets win the regular season but can’t or won’t host the tournament, the team that finishes second would take over.

Macriss said CSUS President Alexander Gonzalez’s plan is to have the university host the tournament, “regardless of where that would be.”

Even if the games are played in Reno, being the home team might still give the Hornets a better chance of winning the tournament – and catapulting the Hornets into their first-ever spot in the NCAA basketball tournament. Reno is a two-hour drive, close enough that CSUS fans could attend.

Macriss said a Sacramento-area location obviously would be preferable to taking the games outside the region.

“Knowing we still have some time, we haven’t stopped the process,” he added.

Sounds like the search isn't over yet. No mention of the wild card in any articles...that being the Well. Still a lot of games left so all this speculation might be pointless anyways.

 

[sacstateman]

Lets hope this is not a wasted effort. Thanks for the info SD.....BTW Delta College seats 3,000

 

[EarleHornet]

If you're going to Stockton, why Delta? May as well go to Sac City, AR, or CR. There are only two feasible options in Stockton, and neither are Delta. You either go to Spanos Center or to Stockton Arena. While normally a facility for hockey, it DOES have the capability of hosting hoops, as UOP moved a game vs. Cal there a few years back. There's an on-site parking facility, plus nearby hotels and neighborhood parking as well.

Not that I'm recommending that. Sleep Train would be better if the league could coordinate schedules with the Kings. But PLEASE don't go to Delta if you go to Stockton. Delta's gym is hardly better than The Nest....

I wouldn't mind Delta. Delta's gym is more than twice the size of the Nest. I remember a playoff game when Katz was coaching there. It was against Modesto JC and the winner moved on to the Elite Eight in the state playoffs. Packed house, crowd was rockin, (Delta won). I believe Delta holds 3,000. It's not your typical JC gym. Plus, it brought a lot of great wins to Katz when he was there. Deja Vu?